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gothchick1515
24-03-06, 03:59 PM
Is anyone here as annoyed and angry at pets at home as i am? i am writing a letter of complaint and me and my best friend plan apetition that all pet shop staff at least know the basics before they are allowed to sell livestok, does anyone here agree with the fact they just dont know enough please share me your stories of pets at home so i have others opinions they sold me my baby griff at a very low weight and now my babies gone and i am convinced it was down to there lack of knowledge adn will NOT! buy anothere animal there again, Pam Purred pets are brilliant they train there staff with pet management nad piggies are only to be sold as twos! is it just me or is that a great idea i saw two male rexes today and was so temteped but i have to think of Zubin and gettin him a friend again now that two have gone :'( :'( but if those rexes are there next week im gettin them i feel so strongly about this and i wont stop until they apologise it might just be my local but im so ANGRY >:(
starshine
24-03-06, 04:28 PM
Susie (Barmy4Boars on here) was been campaigning against PAH for ages and collecting evidence etc. Get in touch with her!!!
gothchick1515
24-03-06, 04:29 PM
oooo now she sounds like the person i need to talk to do you think she will mind if i PM her?
kellyandpiggies
24-03-06, 04:30 PM
I'm not so sure about petitioning, the main reason that people don't actually want to get involved because Pets at home is generally a good store (for the things they sell, not animals) and not all are the same. but you could well try lovey.. People have been trying to stop places from selling pets because of that very reason; staff know nothing about the animals they sell.
I have never been a fan of places selling animals when quite often they have no idea what they're doing. That is why more often then not, I buy the guinea pigs and give them the life they deserve.
I'm not saying it was their fault that Griffin died because of their lack of knowledge and care.. Could just be that he was so ill that nobody knew about it. This was neither your fault.
I hope you are able to get somewhere with your petition, I am all for it. Please keep us updated.
xx Kelly xx
gothchick1515
24-03-06, 04:50 PM
I didnt think the petition idea was ok either but Maxine was suggesting we broke in and set the pets free and shes very determinded so i suggested a petetion seemed easiter hehe, i know it wasnt the entierly there fault but when we bought Zub they offered free health checks and promised to refund or replace (like some sort of microwave!) any animal but when i asked with Griff they where very quick to say no they then wouldnt give me a valid answer as to why she just mutterd something then took my money which makes you think why?
kellyandpiggies
24-03-06, 05:05 PM
They all say that cos actually they don't know where they stand if and when something does happen to any animal they sell...
It's hard to actually get something done about it.
I really feel for you love, and for othera that have had problems with them.
And as for setting them free, it's a good idea in theory but all the animals they have are domesticated and fairly tame.. Setting them free will in fact kill them as they wont have any skills to survive.. (I know that you wouldn't lovey)
xx Kelly xx
gothchick1515
24-03-06, 06:15 PM
Lol i know that my friends an extremist she ment well but i dont think she thought it threw
kellyandpiggies
24-03-06, 06:25 PM
LOL that's ok then.
Big hugs to you lovey
Lucinda
24-03-06, 07:03 PM
I sympathise entirely with you, but why not wait a week or so before you do anything? At the moment you won't be able to think clealy because of your terrible grief. x
gothchick1515
24-03-06, 07:09 PM
oh yes i plan to wait until i am ready to do somethin i know that at the moment i wont be thinking straight, i have emailed susie so i feel like i have done somethin, i would like to buy a little stone thingy for him and rudi i want to bury him near rudi, so i might have to sort that out soon im sure my nans friend would make me a little wooden cross or somethin
cashmincal
24-03-06, 08:06 PM
Also, one of the problem regarding their piggies is that they get them from a Commerical breeder who breeds them on a BIG scale with little or no thought about the piggies welfare and health, which means that the piggies are not going to be very fit to begin with! :'(
gothchick1515
24-03-06, 08:14 PM
Yeh, I saw many mixed breeds and i heard that thats ok in some breeds but others you get lethals? and Griffin was a aby in places and another long haired breed in other places now i have no experience with breed seeing as how i have had just had boys so i dont no how excatly that would affect the health of a piggie i love animals but im doin human nursing and i no there totally different i love the idea of all you guys breeding because you adding to your family in a lovely way, but these people might be doin it purely to make a profit and i really dont like that idea (hope i havent offended anyone) ok i do understand that a few may have had accidental pregnancys which if they dont have the room they did what they thought best i really wish i could have seen Griffins mother and brother and sisters but its too late now so jsut gotta look to the future x x
beni was injured in PAH before we got him and he still has scars on his ears and a bruise on his nose from it.
I think that could have been because the rabbits and guineas are kept in together and either a rabbit bit and kicked him or it was another guinea.
Love
Claire
x
gothchick1515
27-03-06, 05:33 PM
Just emailed them a complaint! Wish i didnt have to go back there but i do no other shop will sell me just a single piggie
DebbieR
29-03-06, 08:45 AM
I wouldn't set foot in another PAH since I had to force a stroppy 16 year old assistant to check on a hamster that was upside down between its bowl and the side of the glass cabinet. It was the hottest day and all the rodents were in glass cages gasping for breath. Hubby had to pullme out of there before I either hit someone or bought all the rodents. He still isn't sure what would have been worse.
I would rather get my animal food delivered than go to that shop again.
michellemuffin
29-03-06, 11:52 AM
I fully understand your grief, and would be just as mad, but as you dont know the piggys history and in all likely hood he had been inbred, something I find nasty (I'm a prude) but any pigs I have had from breeders either rescued or given have died within 2 years most the first year, my only 2 left are clara and lily, out of 9 ( within 2 years) so it makes you think,
I know all breeders do not do this and am for breeding in circumstances like showing them and keeping them or giving them to friends so they have good homes or like in my case i know mine are not bred incorrectly if any of mine have any health problems then its simple I do not breed from that pig, I have not bred for about 2 years now I did try 2 females late last year but niether conceived but i only do it to top up my numbers instead of buying from shops, (which I do rarely)
have you tried telling the shop about simple guinea pig care ie not keeping rabbits in with pigs etc, I found a pet shop that kept their animals on sawdust I asked to see the manager and explained about sawdust being bad for them and he said he would make sure they are changed to paper and hay which he did do, he also explains about care to the customers and has a list of piggy lovers who can give them help ( me included) dont go back there and try to find another pig through the local paper, you will get to see their home and maybe their parents,
its very sad when a loved pet dies and you want to blame anyone else for it, but to be honest its the companys fault not staff as they have not had proper training, what about writing to their head office and explain that their companys got a bad name for itself and you are thinking of writing to a tv consumer programme etc about it,
I know its hard but be strong, the world is full of nasty individuals and we cannot hope to change them all , but knowing us lot on here are nice piggy lovers is proof there is some truly wonderful piggy and animal lovers around
Michele
29-03-06, 11:58 AM
My 2 piggies were from a breeder and are now 3.5 years old. but they have both had ovarian cysts and cysts ontheir bodies which is probably due to inbreeding.
michellemuffin
29-03-06, 12:09 PM
just made me think I have'nt had any cysts on my piggys for a while now the last one was quincee and she had one right in her swirl on her head bless her we thought she was growing a horn lol, but i managed to get rid of it myself, thankgoodness, and its never come back, seems wierd why I'm having more problems with abcesses then cysts now, caused by teeth or something they have chewed on etc sometimes never knowing why, its the unexplained deaths I find hard to take,
kaztrekie
29-03-06, 08:12 PM
alot of people are fed up with P A H if you go to guinea pig world there are lots of complaints about them but there are some good storys too.it seems to depend on where you live the biggest complaint is that they keep rabbits and guinea together when i contacted the head office i was sent a letter which is on the g p w forum.basiclly they say that they keep the animals together because they are young and can be kept together all thier staff are highly trained(hehe)and every guinea pisis sold with a care leaflet and if thier are any problems in 7 days please return the aniaml for a replacement or refund.
(ITS A GUINEA PIG NOT A BROKEN MICROWAVE)sorry about that please write to P A H head office with your complaint sooner or later they will have to do something about it.
soory about legth of this
kaztrekie (complaints to)
Pets at Home Limited
Head Office
Epsom Avenue,
Stanley Green Trading Estate,
Handforth,
Cheshire
SK9 3RN
Tel: 0870-194 3600
Fax: 0161-485 4846
Email: webmaster@petsathome.co.uk
gothchick1515
29-03-06, 08:23 PM
My point excatly once that piggies in your home you love him or her if he or she is ill wouldnt it be better for them to provide free vets bills until it recovered bet then they'd pay better attention to the piggies health, i hate the fact there kept together too my bunnies and piggies mix sometimes but they are free range in the garden and dont bother each other punking loves Zub but they have ampal space and others of there kind, I saw a bunnie alone once with guineas and he looked scared and lonely if i had one bunnie he or she wouldnt be put with guineas ever ohh they get me narked i no i got Harry there the other day but i cant bare to see them there i really cant half the staff there dont know how to sex a pig, hammy etc grr >:(
Bob and Ron
30-03-06, 05:09 PM
Their staff are highly trained !!! HA ! i popped in my local last weekend and the lad couldnt even speak and look at me at the same time !! He didnt know how to sex them and when i mentioned sow or boar he said 'what ?' !!! They were keeping the piggies in their seperate sexes yes but with rabbits ! I have learnt the best place to buy is from a loving breeder or a piggy show.I never recommend people to P.A.H. for piggies - cavybreeder is a good site.
I'm sure though everyone will agree that wherever you get your piggie from-the home and life you give them is a loving, happy ,healthy one.What more does a piggie ask for ? ;D
Hi everyone
I have just been into PAH and there was a guinea lying on the floor collapsed but still breathing.
I ran over and grabbed a member of staff and they came and took the guinea out of the pen.
I just feel so upset, the poor little mite, i hope the staff took him to a vet.
kellyandpiggies
26-05-06, 03:54 PM
Am hoping so too love.. they make angry!
Is it one of the stores that has the in-store vets?
WeeEric
26-05-06, 04:37 PM
Oh no! The poor wee thing!
I have to say that I'd always avoided PAH but our one is really good. Really nice, friendly staff and the piggies' pens are always really clean with water, food and veg!
I hope the wee one is looked after.
You did the right thing.
Lu x
princessguinea
26-05-06, 04:54 PM
thats so upsetting! i actually went to a pet store the other day and there was a baby with pnemonia! it was alone so i guess they knew what to do but i sure hope its okay. i havent been back. i wish i couldve bought him to take care of him but i just dont have enough space. :'(
I just feel so sad now :(
princessguinea
26-05-06, 05:03 PM
aww. is there any way you can find out what happened?
DebbieR
26-05-06, 05:08 PM
It would have been a lot worse if you hadn't seen him and alerted the staff. If you do find out what happened to him, please let us know.
Fingers crossed for the little mite.
princessguinea
26-05-06, 05:12 PM
fingers crossed here too. xx
michellemuffin
26-05-06, 07:25 PM
OMG more sad news, will this week ever end, let us know if you find out if the poor little thing is ok
I will do, i might try and go again today to see if the little piggie is back in the pen.
It was so sad, i really hope that the assistant took the piggie to the vet as its not one of the stores that has the vets in it.
Then I seriously doubt it, They aren't going to spend money on something that will only gain them £10 to £15. To them the piggy is just stock, a commodity. Sounds harsh but that's how it is.
There was a story in the papers a few years back, can't remember if it was in my local, or a national, but it was about PAH or Petsmart as they were known then, and when the hammies were sick they just took them out the back of the store and walloped them with a hammer.......
kellyandpiggies
27-05-06, 01:02 PM
That is disgusting, I really hope that's not the case
Hubby just reminded me that the report also said that staff used to get rid of sick animals by drowning them in a bucket >:(
Oh my gosh, thats awful, the poor little mite yesterday couldn't even open his eyes.
http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:oAMY_8fPMNAJ:www.carn-age.org.uk/pets.html+petsmart+kill+sick&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=12
This is a link to a page that confirms it, its a long page and you have to go nearly to the bottom.
kellyandpiggies
27-05-06, 03:05 PM
That is just awful, read a few of the others too. It's sad
Thats so sad and awful, was anything done about it Bev?
Well not long after it changed to PAH so maybe they brought in new directors and policies but I doubt it :( Also there was a tv programme on it as well if I remember rightly
Lucinda
27-05-06, 10:03 PM
I'm so upset now.
princessguinea
30-05-06, 12:31 PM
OMG, THIS IS VERY UPSETTING!!
DebbieR
30-05-06, 01:37 PM
And one of the many reasons that, if you possibly can, everyone should boycott these stores.
michellemuffin
30-05-06, 04:19 PM
I was considering getting a job with one thats opening on the island shortly but dont think I could stay sane and not lose my temper, I know i would end up being arrested,
crackerjack
31-05-06, 06:14 PM
i have had a few pigs come into the rescue from pah.
people get them home and after a few weeks they find they are not the sex they planned on having, and the shop wont take them back after 7 days so they come here to be re-homed.
sad for the people that brought them , sad for the pig having a 4th home in so few weeks.
Lucinda
31-05-06, 10:16 PM
Tell us about your rescue CrackerJackl
crackerjack
31-05-06, 10:24 PM
theres a bit about the rescue on my web site,
im scared to say no know when people ring incase the piggy is dumped etc.
ive almost stopped doing it 3 times just cant looks like it was my vocation lol
Moderators note - Web link removed. Please post links in the members website section. If you would like to advertise your rescue work there is a designated rescue board where you can post any pigs needing new homes.
Lucinda
31-05-06, 10:25 PM
Yup. just found your other post. You're doing a great job for darling piggies.
piglover
07-09-06, 09:04 AM
Hi, just looking through the forum and found this one on Pets at Home. I was in PAH on Friday near me and was horrified to hear the assistant tell a young family who were just about to purchase a rabbit that the scab on its back was probably just a knock or something and it was ok they would just put him out the back until it fell off anyway!! I was biting my lip very hard and in the end just had to say "don't you think its more likely to be mites?" at which the assistant looked daggers at me and said no of course not! The family recoiled in horror and said they'd think about it! I couldn't help myself. I felt awful about this the fact that (again) the staff either knew nothing or more likely chose to fein ignorance. It nagged at me all weekend, so on Monday I rang their head office and asked for their complaints department and vented myself on them! Told them about Friday and whilst I was there told them that they shouldn't be keeping baby pigs with huge rabbits to which she replied we don't recommend keeping rabbits with pigs after purchase, which is all very well but they shouldn't keep them together AT ALL! I also mentioned that a basic knowledge of guinea pigs and rabbits would help the staff enormously as at present they had none whatsoever at this particular branch. She asked me if I wanted to leave my details to which I did and told her I would be phoning back today to check on what she had done about the situation or else I would be taking it further as I was just about fed up with the lack of care and knowledge at their "Pet shops".
I said that I was a member on various forums and we are all working girls but we all have a better knowledge and understanding of piggies and rabbits than their so called "trained staff"!! I asked her to describe their induction training to which she could only assure it was suitable to which I replied "I think not". So watch this space we'll see what develops today >:(
I often go to PAH in Clifton Moor (York Area) and I thought they were great :-\
The local petshops keep the piggies in 120x60 cages, whereas in PAH they had a lovely nice run attached to that big house thing they live in. Yes, they were together with rabbits, but it was baby rabbits and baby guineas, so no huge ones in there, and enough space for them to get out of each others way if need be. they were very helpful when I was looking for a rabbit rescue to get a friend for my old rabbit Jam, and they dont sell buns and piggies together. Also that they have the piggie care books very obviously lying around near the actual pet area, and afaik they also had some basic care sheets for the different animals they sell in a leafletholder on the cage wall.
All the animals looked healthy and happy, the cages clean and tidy, and I was quite impressed, having only seen shops before that were alot worse...
Btw, I wouldnt buy from piggieshows or breeders either, you are still supporting that whole stupid cycle if you do.. there will always be people who have unwanted litter because they were too dumb to have their boar neutered so the rescues will always have plenty of piggies there, without us encouraging breeders to breed even more by buying from them. In my eyes thats just as bad as buying from petshops. They might be kept better there, but thats not the point, you are still supporting the wrong people. Im for rescues all the way!
dianewilsher
07-09-06, 10:24 AM
I have been to our local Pets at Home branch in Blackwood. After Julie bought Pebbles she had had an health check with their vet before she left the shop but she had a crusty ear, the left, and she also had a small sore on her back where some of the hairs came away. We have now cleared them both up with aloe vera gel. Even in the Blackwood branch, they put their guinea pigs in with rabbits.
Diane
I rang pets at home about a year ago and they told me not to handle the baby guinea pigs as the mother would kill them!!! I think she was getting mixed up with rabbits.
Mary
kellyandpiggies
07-09-06, 11:44 AM
It just goes to show that their staff really know nothing. The manager should be on here recruiting some of us! :)
As I work at the vets you wouldnt belive the amount of people that come to us and say that they have been given the wrong sex or that there animal is pegnant! They have even said that the pet shop said it was ok to put a rabbit with a guinea pig and to give it rabbit food!!!
Mary
SweetEdge
07-09-06, 12:10 PM
Thats what I saw happen at our local PAH... They brought a box full of 6/7 week old baby piggies from the back and told this young family they were all female.. so they picked one and bought it. Whilst they were doing all this, I asked if I could pick some up and look at them, the assistant didnt really care and said yes, and that they were all female, should I want to buy one. Being me, I picked up a few and sexed them myself, just incase, and everyone I picked up they were all Male!!! I told the girl this and she said they werent and that I probably didnt know what I was looking for!!! I picked one up and showed her and she was like... Oh... and didnt know what to say but gave me daggers... I then said, if you have just sold a female guineapig to those people, if it really is female, couldnt it be pregnant? But she didnt care, and said oh well and walked off with them!!!!!!!
Makes me angry when people who are 'supposed' to have a little bit of knowledge are put in positions like that!!! grrrrrr and dont even get me started on the time I went in there to overhear one of the assistants explaining to a young boy and his mum that the rabbit's breed they were going to buy was a himi when it was an english lop!!!!!!!!!
grrrrrrrrr
xxx
kellyandpiggies
07-09-06, 12:16 PM
Everyone's been having problems at PAH!! :)
Think the staff are more concerned about their wages than the animals!
Like I said, the manager of them all needs to come here! LOL
dianewilsher
07-09-06, 12:16 PM
And guess what else happened that day Mary? The boy that sold Julie Pebbles didn't even know how old she was!
Diane
Some one should print this out and send it to PAH!!
If I'm not sure I know something at work I always double check with the nurse or vet. But thay should know what sex it is. I run a guinea pig rescue and what would happen if I couldnt sex them!!!
Mary
piglover
07-09-06, 02:10 PM
Ok, I rang back PAH to see what has happened since I phoned MOnday to complain and the girl I spoke to then is on holiday!!!!
The guy I spoke to seemed to think I was being overconcerned, as far as he was concerned all the staff had extensive training, knew the difference between male and female and even in thier newly opened stores they kept rabbits and guinea pigs seperately. How come I could count 7 stores that I have been to that keep buns & pigs together? he said out of 200 + stores that wasn't bad going - bad for the piggies though eh?! I told him about us all feeling the same about PAH and he just said he was sorry we felt like that but there really isn't a problem! I asked him why there was only one food dish in the pens for both and that piggies mustn't eat rabbit food and he said its always guinea pig food - great start for the rabbits eh? I asked again what their induction training entailed and he wasn't at liberty to discuss it with me - probably couldn't think of anything!
There is obviously no getting through to them just because they keep the animals in nice clean pens with food water and toys etc everything is ok, the fact they may have mites, be pregnant or an rabbit induced injury is ok too - PAH policy! I know there is alot worse out there with unscrupulous breeders and pure cruelty but they are are a national company so should train their staff a lot better, thats all we're asking.
SweetEdge
07-09-06, 02:14 PM
>:( I think Kelly's spot on though... I know in my PAH, all the staff are quite young, and seem to change all the time cause I think they must work part time whilst at Uni\college, but, a lot of time, its just a job... something to get some beer tokens for the weekend.... I really think that anyone working with animals, whatever they are doing, from running a pet shop etc etc, should at least know a LITTLE bit about the types of animals they are looking after, like how to sex them PROPERLY, and which types of animals SHOULDNT be kept together... Really makes me angry, cause at the end of the day, if these animals arent be looked after properly by the pet shop, then its cruelty.. I know my local PAH a few months ago, had to put all the birds to sleep that they had, and i mean ALL of them, from finches to the small parrots, because they got a disease and it wasnt spotted early enough from what I could tell... Their fish they keep, regulary have white spot, and theres always more than 1 tank with signs on saying that 'The fish in this tank are currently not for sale and are being treated'..
Ok rant over :)
:'(
xxx
kellyandpiggies
07-09-06, 02:18 PM
Totally agree with you, like so many others. But PAH remain unchanged about a few things. They have been the same for years.
Others have called like you, and also made petitions, but in effect gets us nowhere! I know it's not fair or right, but until their 'policy' changes and they have someone that is more willing to hear our side of things and our information/knowledge then nothing will be done about any of the PAH stores.
piglover
07-09-06, 02:25 PM
Yep Kelly reckon you're right. Like so many other things in this country we've been brick walled.
I've had my say, done my bit for speaking up for the piggies, but I definately won't be visiting any PAH's again as I get too uptight and it takes me ages to calm down!
My rant over too, thanks for listening all! x :-*
kellyandpiggies
07-09-06, 02:31 PM
Rant away, we're in this together! :)
Then its people like us that have to sort it out!!
Mary
kellyandpiggies
07-09-06, 02:56 PM
Yeah, but like I said before, a lot of us have tried everything only to get us nowhere :)
hayleyandjohn
07-09-06, 06:09 PM
i go in PAH to get my food and i got two guinea there, the first was on her own with two rabbits, so had to have her, and then i got another but when i got her home, i realised she had a toe missing and nibbles out of her ear so i am so glad i did get her because she had obviously been picked on!
Everytime I go in there and i see poor guineas i want to buy them all, but at £19 each, i really could not afford to!!
I agree with everyone that they need more training, the first pig i bought they didnt even ask me to write any details down and we didnt buy a hutch there, so they didnt ask if we had one, or if we had hay and bedding. They did tell us what food she was eating that was it!
Also i do not like the way they handle/hold them!!
i did ask them if they had special clippers for guinea pigs, they used to do them, but apparently they do not anymore but they said to use a pair of normal nail clippers, is that right?
I'm not sure if I've been in Pets at Home but I went to a big pet store one day about 3 years ago that sounds like pets at home. They had a kind of garden at the back of the shop with the rabbits and guinea pigs inside them. My mum and dad were goin to get me a guinea pig but they changed their minds because I wanted a female and they had put a male in with her because she looked lonely.. She was also is with rabbits..
The woman in the pet shop I got Misty in didn't know his age but she had just taken over the shop so fair enough..
My mum said she'll take me to PAH one day when I feel better but I dunno if I want to go because I'll just end up wanting to take all the piggies home if there in with rabbits :(
If people keep buying from them the less likely they are to do anything about it I think..
If some one can draft a letter up saying that it isnt right putting gps with rabbits and we all send that letter to our local PAH, do you think that would help?
Mary
amillar
07-09-06, 10:19 PM
hi
We have a Pets at Home store near us which i visit now and again for hay etc. I also take an interest in the guinea pigs and always have a look. So far i haven't any concerns, although the pigs are in with the rabbits they seem to keep in their separate areas.The pigs i saw seemed happy and had lots of fresh food and hay. And plenty of tubes and dens. The staff i saw seemed very attentive of the animals. I suppose it can all depend on the staff that are there and how good they are. Although i would have loved to buy them all up and given them a home, i never left the store, so far, being overly concerned about any pigs i saw. I can't comment on the quality of advice they give as have never been wittiness to them selling a pig.
Our local pet shop houses pigs and rabbits separately and seems confident in their care. They always take a name and address of the person buying an animal. So it is not all bad.
Lucinda
07-09-06, 10:58 PM
yes, I had to fill in forms when I got mine.
stargate
07-09-06, 11:13 PM
My local PAH is very good and so are the staff, perhaps I'm the lucky one. I don't get any animals from there, well I don't buy any from there not directly but I do end up with them. I'll explain, I run a rescue for pigs, rabbits and any small rodent. So people go in to PAH purchase their pet and take it home, then they get a problem with it either wrong sex, especially in rabbits or they've developed an allergy, so they go back to the shop. Of course it's not the shops policy to take back animals after a certain time. So they give them my number and hence we rescue the pet.
The good thing about this is that if they get any returned cages and hutches they also give me a ring, so so far this summer we've rescued 6 rabbits, 1 hamster, 1 guinea pig and received over £300 worth of returned equipment. Plus come Christmas they put out an extra bin for me so people can donate food etc.
Unfortunately they still keep rabbits with guinea pigs, but for the most part the staff do seem to know what they are doing.
kellyandpiggies
08-09-06, 01:57 PM
Wow that's great! Ours isn't perfect, but recently that have stepped up on things
Barmy4boars
09-09-06, 10:13 AM
Well when I e-mailed their hq a few years ago about keeping rabbits with guiena pigs they must have forwarded it to me local store and they accidently sent a reply to me. It said they thought people like me who complain wind them up and that they know a rabbit can kill a guinea pig with one kick but still keep them together in store and just dont advise people buy them together (which I know is untrue). It was great for me as it meant I could and did go to the local paper with it and had my story featured.
Unfortunately it doesnt matter how 'good' your local branch is. They are a chain so money they recieve in a good store goes back in to the same pocket as the stores that sell preganant pigs, keep fighing males together and kep guineas with rabbits and are involved in unpleasant maethods of breeding animals for stock.
The more people complain to them or better still boycott them the more likely it is they will wake up and take notice. There must have been many times campaigners for other causes thought it was hopeless but they persevered. It certainly makes me feel better to know I tried and to continue trying.
Incidently if anyone else has a testimonial about PAH them want me collect and to send a copy to HQ please mail me details together with your name and the name/loaction of the store you had a bad experiance of. The next lot of testomonials will be sent out shortly.
I've just been to my local PAH today to have a look at their rabbits & piggies as the last time i was there they were kept together.
Today there was only 1 piggie in the same enclosure as the rabbits but in a separate cage. I'm assuming it's because there was only 1, but don't know if i'm right.
It's been warm today and i was impressed that they had fans on, which the rabbits were loving; all sprawled out and dozing.
I was a bit peeved really that i didn't get a chance to chew someones ear!!!!
Oh well mebbe next time!! ;D ;D
janice-arc
12-09-06, 11:04 PM
I organise the guinea pig side of a rescue, about 30% of the piggies we get in are as a result of wrong sexing of piggies or from piggies being re homed who are already pregnant by this national pet store chain. I have people who ask for help re homing their unwanted litters who have been told by staff members of this store that female piggies cannot get pregnant whilst they are feeding litters and that you cannot sex pigs until they are 8 weeks old.
I do not buy anything at any of their stores, preferring to put any money I spend on animal products into pet shops which do not sell animals. The best way to deal with stores like these are to buy anything from them, if we all did this stores like this would go out of business.
bramble
13-09-06, 03:54 PM
a few years ago i had two missex buns from PAH !! & as such havent been there for ages as i am too weak willed, but i went in the summer to get a doggie item i couldnt get anywhere eles & ended up with 2 piggies who were about to go to an uscruplous faimly & a 'large piggie' which was actually a cashmere lop rabitt !! one of the poor piggies was extremly unwell & died 4 days later , i complained & took my vets statement to them to show that he really was unwell when i bought him, they did re-imburse all medical bills (over sixty pounds) but im sure they were just trying to palm me off because i knew what i was rtalking about ! they also asked me if i wanted another piggie free !!!!! i didnt but i did get a pure bred castor rex bun instead......which makes me wonder are breeders selling there stock to PAH if they cant sell them normally?? other than thinking my cashmere lop was a piggie they would have been unable to advise on grooming ect which is vital for cashmeres !!
a few of my rescues have been from PAH & normally pregnate ect, its very sad but in our area there isnt much choice to buy pet supplies from there most of our little shops can be nearly twice as dear or dont carry stock !
amillar
21-09-06, 07:10 PM
Went to our local PAH store today and the pens have been split so that rabbit and Guinea pigs are in separate areas. So perhaps they are listening to all the people who have complained :)
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