Advice Needed Please, Dad & Son Separated

[Marty]

Hi

Juli an I rally n som avic plas. your bon fathr an son Blaz an Scampy hav fall[COLOR=Black]n out.

W[COLOR=Black] ar[COLOR=Black] blaming ours[COLOR=Black]lv[COLOR=Black]s b[COLOR=Black]caus[COLOR=Black] th[COLOR=Black]y s[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]m[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] fin[COLOR=Black] until w[COLOR=Black] brought in oth[COLOR=Black]r piggi[COLOR=Black]s a f[COLOR=Black]w months ago (in s[COLOR=Black]p[COLOR=Black]rat[COLOR=Black] housing, but clos[COLOR=Black] by). Blaz[COLOR=Black] was ill ov[COLOR=Black]r th[COLOR=Black] w[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]k[COLOR=Black]n[COLOR=Black] an[COLOR=Black] ha[COLOR=Black] to b[COLOR=Black] tak[COLOR=Black]n to th[COLOR=Black] v[COLOR=Black]t - w[COLOR=Black] took Scampy as w[COLOR=Black]ll to k[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]p th[COLOR=Black]m tog[COLOR=Black]th[COLOR=Black]r. Scampy was on th[COLOR=Black] blunt [COLOR=Black]n[COLOR=Black] of Blaz[COLOR=Black] b[COLOR=Black]ing ill as h[COLOR=Black] was b[COLOR=Black]ing snip[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] at a bit as Blaz[COLOR=Black] was f[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]ling rough an[COLOR=Black] just want[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] a li[COLOR=Black] [COLOR=Black]own probably. P[COLOR=Black]rhaps w[COLOR=Black] shoul[COLOR=Black] hav[COLOR=Black] t[COLOR=Black]mporarily s[COLOR=Black]p[COLOR=Black]rat[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] th[COLOR=Black]m th[COLOR=Black]n, I [COLOR=Black]on't know. But two nights ago Juli[COLOR=Black] saw Scampy go for Blaz[COLOR=Black] an[COLOR=Black] tak[COLOR=Black] a mouthful of hair. Som[COLOR=Black] rumbling an[COLOR=Black] t[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]th chatt[COLOR=Black]ring has b[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]n s[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]n sinc[COLOR=Black], but no oth[COLOR=Black]r such attacks until last night wh[COLOR=Black]n I ha[COLOR=Black] to br[COLOR=Black]ak th[COLOR=Black]m up.

Th[COLOR=Black]y s[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]m to b[COLOR=Black] happy tog[COLOR=Black]th[COLOR=Black]r som[COLOR=Black] of th[COLOR=Black] tim[COLOR=Black] but th[COLOR=Black]n th[COLOR=Black] t[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]th chatt[COLOR=Black]ring an[COLOR=Black] rumbling starts again W[COLOR=Black] [COLOR=Black]n[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] up bathing th[COLOR=Black]m tog[COLOR=Black]th[COLOR=Black]r up trying to r[COLOR=Black]-bon[COLOR=Black] th[COLOR=Black]m. Work[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] for about 20 mins, th[COLOR=Black]y hu[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]l[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] up in th[COLOR=Black] bath tog[COLOR=Black]th[COLOR=Black]r an[COLOR=Black] wh[COLOR=Black]n th[COLOR=Black]y w[COLOR=Black]r[COLOR=Black] b[COLOR=Black]ing [COLOR=Black]ri[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] off. But lat[COLOR=Black]r on th[COLOR=Black]y start[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] th[COLOR=Black] rumbling with much t[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]th chatt[COLOR=Black]ring out on th[COLOR=Black] floor again, so w[COLOR=Black] finally ha[COLOR=Black] to s[COLOR=Black]p[COLOR=Black]rat[COLOR=Black] th[COLOR=Black]m :-\

Th[COLOR=Black]y ar[COLOR=Black] now in a 120cm long cag[COLOR=Black] which has b[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]n [COLOR=Black]ivi[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] up with a mash[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] up t[COLOR=Black]mporary [COLOR=Black]iv[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]r.

W[COLOR=Black]'r[COLOR=Black] pr[COLOR=Black]tty gutt[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] as th[COLOR=Black]y [COLOR=Black]on't r[COLOR=Black]ally hav[COLOR=Black] th[COLOR=Black] spac[COLOR=Black], but at l[COLOR=Black]ast th[COLOR=Black]y ar[COLOR=Black] saf[COLOR=Black] from on[COLOR=Black] anoth[COLOR=Black]r.

If anyon[COLOR=Black] has ANY ii[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]as or [COLOR=Black]xp[COLOR=Black]ri[COLOR=Black]nc[COLOR=Black]s P[COLOR=Black]EASE coul[COLOR=Black] you post th[COLOR=Black]m h[COLOR=Black]r[COLOR=Black], w[COLOR=Black] ar[COLOR=Black] both pr[COLOR=Black]tty ups[COLOR=Black]t about it all at th[COLOR=Black] mom[COLOR=Black]nt.

Thanks
Martin an[COLOR=Black] Juli[COLOR=Black]

E[COLOR=Black]it - Hav[COLOR=Black] just r[COLOR=Black]alis[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] hav[COLOR=Black] put in Housing - Shoul[COLOR=Black] b[COLOR=Black] in B[COLOR=Black]haviour, pl[COLOR=Black]as[COLOR=Black] coul[COLOR=Black] on[COLOR=Black] of th[COLOR=Black] mo[COLOR=Black]s mov[COLOR=Black]? thanks
[i][color[COLOR=Black]r[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black]]Mov[COLOR=Black][COLOR=Black] for you - Kat[COLOR=Black][/i]

 

[hils78]

Re: Advice Needed Please, Dad and Son Separated

Hey you guys. Are the other pigs girls or boys? If they're girls, my best suggestion would be neutering & then a girls each. But if the new pigs are boys - Iwould give dad & son another go. Completely disinfect the cage & houses to get rid of any previous smells do the usual bathing & put them in together again. I'm sure you do have 2 of everything - bowls, water, houses. They prob just needed time out. Wiggy & Rusty squabble & there was a time where I thought that they were going to have to be seperated - but a few tense days for me paid off & they're fine now.

Good luck

 

[Marty]

Re: Advice Needed Please, Dad & Son Separated*Sorry Put in Wrong Section!*

Hi Hils, thanks for the reply. Sorry should have mentioned the other two newer piggies are boys. We are really hoping its a temporary thing because of the illness etc. They seem to have made no attempt to get into each other (that we have seen anyway) and have both spent time in their own hides (yes, they have two of everything, we thought to do that to prevent any bullying before they fell out!) We bathed them last night and should have changed the cage, but by this time it was pretty late and it took us ages to construct the makeshift divider. We will try again tonight, rather than bathe them again just put them in the bath so they can liten to a bit of running water etc, get their feet wet...

The thing we are really concerned about it is I've heard that if you seperate bonded pigs they rarely get back together again. However we were watching them very carefully this morning and there was some rumbling - but then they just stopped and wandered of, like they used to. I also saw them touching noses (seemingly peacefully) through the bars, so that gives us a glimmer of hope! Last night when we seperated them there was still teeth chattering and squaring up through the bars, sor hopefully it's a step up from that!

Marty

 

[piggybaker]

I have had this situation and although some of you may no agree with me ,this did work, i bathed these two boys. disinfected the cage and dried them and then put Vick on the end of there noises and sprayed some body shop white musk on my hand and rubbed it on there fur near the rump, and it worked and they smelt lovely

I was very careful in doing this with the Vick on there noses, but it did work! you could try this, it could be enough to confuse them and throw them together.

 

[Marty]

We are willing to try anything we can to get these boys back together. Does it have to be white musk? I know Julie has other Body Shop perfumes! Can get some Vicks no problem. I've just seen another thread on this board which sounds similar to our situations.
Thanks for the input, and thanks Kate for moving this thread!

We have set up a 'piggycam' which has (hopefully) recorded what they have been up to, which we will look at tonight : Honestly the lengths we go to for our animals!

Martin

PS What did you name your three musketeers in the end?