Barriers to rescuing a piggy

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I’ve been thinking about this recently and just wanted to post to see what other people thought. When looking for a friend for Charlie after Dinky died I contacted lots of rescues and had knockbacks for a variety of reasons, some wouldn’t rehome boars unless they were already in bonded pairs, some wouldn’t rehome further than 15 miles, but one of the main barriers to us was having young children (3yrs and 18 months), so many rescues say on their websites they won’t rehome to families with young children. I ended up travelling to Surrey to get a baby from a rescue piggy that had been rehomed already pregnant (unknown to the rescue as they’d rehomed her and she’d been returned to them but had obviously been put with a boar at some point), this took me 6.5 hours, cost me £75 and took 4 trains, 2 tubes, 2 buses, a lift and a taxi as well as needing to take my OH out of work to watch the kids. How many people would realistically make that journey rather than buy a piggie from a breeder etc?

I personally feel that my piggies have a good home, the children are NEVER allowed to handle them or even open their cages unsupervised, they’re only allowed to stroke them sitting down with me right next to them, because of the kids I’m at home a lot, and in the kitchen where the piggies are a lot of the time, so they have a good routine, we have no childcare so never go out in the evening or get to sleep in on the weekend, the kids need to be fed by 8am so the piggies get the same, the piggies get lots of interaction and cuddles, they have 4 foot cages (and will have a C& C cage if my grids ever come), lots of veggies and are always taken to the vets if needed even if it means us going without elsewhere, and I actually feel quite annoyed that we are automatically not eligible to adopt from so many rescues simply because we have children. It’s hard when you come onto forums and see people being slated for not using rescues, yet we’ve had such a nightmare trying to find a rescue boar to pair Charlie with that I can quite see why someone would give up and go and buy a piggy.
 
I think some rescues are too strict. I know you have to be strict, to find good homes, and they don't want children to be looking after the animals, but a lot of people have young children, but still want pets . . . so it seems silly to not rehome to them, if it's a good home. That's just my opinion though.
 
I've never really faced any problems. When I adopted Nelson, they were very strict about not rehoming him with a female without having the snip, and the conditions he would be living in. We were supposed to have a home visit but it turned out after we took Freddie to the 'date', we could take him home. Cue rushed clean out of their new hutch!
 
Each rescue has their own policy on rehoming - mine are rather simple in comparison it seems.

A big enough cage - 4ftx2ft min for a pair.

Housed indoors throughout the entire winter - min of heated, insulated shed if in the house is not poss. This is the biggest barrier for me as many people still assume they can live outside all year. mallethead

Not to be bred from, not to be housed with rabbits and to be returned to the rescue if the owners find themselves unable to care for them in the future.


I have no age limit - upper or lower - as long as there is commitment from the whole family there is no reason to exclude anyone. As I talk (the hind leg off a donkey) I weed out the impulsive, under researched propsective owners, if they come back and have done their homework I am delighted!

I grew up with a huge number and variety of pets - it's normal! So to exclude families because they have young children is defeating the object of creating animal loving adults. Talking to people about how to handle and care for their pets when you understand the needs of the family, and the pet, can create the most loving environment of all.


My mini-rant for the day over - thank you :))

Suzy x
 
I didn't realise some rescue's wouldn't rehome to families with young children, I have seen on some rescue websites guinea pig's that would be unsuitable for young families due to their past but that's fair enough. Every rescue pig has a different past/up bringing and not all guinea pigs in rescue's have had a bad past so I think they should be evaluated indivually not an outright no that none of them cant go to young families. (Hope that make's sense!) It must also be very difficult for rescue's though.
It's a shame that you were turned away from a few, with you and your children around most of the time I bet they get a lot of attention compared to some piggies and your children from the pictures you've posted seem so happy around your piggies :)
I adopted two piggies from a rescue in October and have to say my experience was the opposite, it was very quick, smooth and we had a lovely day! x
 
Thanks all- it's interesting to hear from other people, but yes, quite a few rescues seeem to have this no young children policy- another rescue I called asking if she did "boar-dating" laughed at me and told me that boars won't get along unless they're from the same litter and wouldn't even consider trying Charlie with any of her boys 8..., the RSPCA won't rehome boars with other boars either, even though I've had boys who weren't brothers before, and Fitz and Roy are 9 months apart in age (I told this to the woman at one rescue and she told me it was VERY rare for boars to get along if not together from birth)

But yes, one rescue near Birmingham had some lovely young boys and one I totally fell in love with, but wouldn't rehome to us because we had children under three, another was children under nine.

I can totally understand the worry with kids, but think a home check and careful questioning could easily eliminate whether the parents were going to be looking after the piggies or not, I mean I wouldn't expect piggies to be kept in a young child's bedroom etc, but it does seem like some of the rescues are cutting out a large chunk of potential adoptees with their regulations etc

That being said I adopted Fitz and Roy from Cheylesmore and that was fabulous, but sadly is now closed
 
I agree Branston and I think the problem comes when someone overhears it that a guinea pig can't be rehomed somewhere there are young children and someone else sticks to the rules too rigidly and doesn't use common sense. It sounds likd Suzygpr has it set in the best way possible in that it might be a bit time consuming but you need to get to know the people who want to rescue a piggy before making a decision. Like you say its best if guinea pigs are matched to those who are housing them. So if you have a family with young children its not a good idea to give them a piggy who doesn't like being handled and has a tendency to bite everything that moves :)) whereas a less timid and more outgoing piggy that loves attention would be perfect
 
Thanks all- it's interesting to hear from other people, but yes, quite a few rescues seeem to have this no young children policy- another rescue I called asking if she did "boar-dating" laughed at me and told me that boars won't get along unless they're from the same litter and wouldn't even consider trying Charlie with any of her boys 8..., the RSPCA won't rehome boars with other boars either, even though I've had boys who weren't brothers before, and Fitz and Roy are 9 months apart in age (I told this to the woman at one rescue and she told me it was VERY rare for boars to get along if not together from birth)

But yes, one rescue near Birmingham had some lovely young boys and one I totally fell in love with, but wouldn't rehome to us because we had children under three, another was children under nine.

I can totally understand the worry with kids, but think a home check and careful questioning could easily eliminate whether the parents were going to be looking after the piggies or not, I mean I wouldn't expect piggies to be kept in a young child's bedroom etc, but it does seem like some of the rescues are cutting out a large chunk of potential adoptees with their regulations etc

That being said I adopted Fitz and Roy from Cheylesmore and that was fabulous, but sadly is now closed

I wasn't aware Cheylesmore was now closed ?/

However, I know its a bit further afield but there's honeybunnies here in Leicester who rehome nationally and Leicester is about 40 min drive from coventry... not too bad on the train either if I remember rightly.
 
I have to say I don't understand why some rescues make it a rigid rule. I think it's much better to talk to the person who wants the piggie and get to know the family. My piggies are in my spare room with a stair gate which is always closed on their door there is noway for the children to get to them. And my son is so loving with them he comes in WITH ME to give them their fresh food at night he goes to the cages and says bye bye he means night night and blows them kisses. He is so cute he will go and wait quitley at the downstairs stair gate and when I ask him if he would like to go and see the piggies he says yes we go in the room and he stands there really still and watchs them (I am there all the time)
My son sees me feed the piggies,Clean the piggies out give them hay and everything else that is involved in their care if you ask me him watching me taking care of our piggies now will make him grow up into a responsible pet owner if he decides he would like his own when older.
I am a stay at home mum I am always at home so my piggies have us around a lot of the time. I know that the rescues may see rehoming to someone with kids as a risk but I if the piggies are for the adult if they are going to make sure they are safe and loved then I think we are a much better home then someone who works so much they are NEVER home and who does not have the time for their piggies. It is hurtfull to fall in love with a piggie and get told no we dont trust you enough to keep a close enough eye on your kids to have them what about the people who can say no we dont have kids but they do have the grandkids round every week. I think it's wrong to rule people out just cos they have young kids.
Rant over I was not going to post my rant lol but I could not resist putting my 2p worth in lol.
 
It's a shame the rules seemed to be so rigid, surely guidelines would be better?
I can understand why a rescue wouldn't want to rehome to someone with young children IF they were first time piggy owners, but in your case the kids are already used to having piggies in the family.
 
But yes, one rescue near Birmingham had some lovely young boys and one I totally fell in love with, but wouldn't rehome to us because we had children under three, another was children under nine.

the ironic thing about all this is that you could have a child after you get the guinea pig...?
then what..?
i think it should be mandatory to have a house check with the kids there... to check wether the parent can control the kids and they have some level of understanding... becuase fair enough there are some people out there who shouldnt be allowd piggies but dont catagorise people with there life styles... I'm sure theres plenty of single people over 21 that would neglect a piggie.... just like theres plenty of people with small children who would treat there piggies like little princes and princess'... :)
my next door neighbors child doesnt stop screaming all day... yet my two and a half year old is completely uninterested in my piggies.... except when there making noise...:)
he'll go over to the cage and shush them which makes them sqweek at him louder...lol

any way the point I'm tryign to make is you cant discriminate agains a whole group of people for there life choices...
you wouldnt refuse to home a piggie with a gay couple so why should they be able to refuse a piggie to a family with small children...?

**rant over**
:)
 
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I can understand why rescue centres are strict - I'm quite thankful for it. You don't want someone going in there on a whim only for the poor guinea pig to end up in another rescue centre if it doesn't work out for them (although this happens with pet shops, sometimes). And I don't agree with breeding. I still remember how sad I was when our pregnant female (adopted, we didn't breed her!) had her babies and most died, and she never really recovered fully after that so had a short life.

Its definitely not true that NO boars can be bonded unless its from birth - it just depends on the personalities of the pigs. Obviously, a very dominant, agressive pig wouldn't be so easy to match up, but 'boar dating' really does work because you can find suitable matches. Freddie and Ringo were brothers and they got on very well (to the point of complete and utter adorableness) and after Ringo died, we tried two males. The first was unsuccessful because the younger pig was very aggressive towards Freddie, but Nelson worked a treat! They're both very laid back - the only problem we have with Nelson is that he gets a little...friendly rolleyes

The main problem I had was finding a rescue centre. The one that Nelson came from is sadly closed now, so I only know of one other, but they only have a few guinea pigs as its a multi-animal rescue. I tried applying for a volunteering job there but never heard back :(



Edit: oh, and I think cases should be judged case by case, not just a general rule. My Dad had guinea pigs when I was little, they were 'family pets' but ultimately he was responsible for them. I think it was good because we were taught from a young age how to care for and respect animals, and now I absolutely adore guinea pigs and can't imagine life without them. My Dad also had piggies from a fairly young age - he adopted a neglected pair from down the road and ended up owning 24 between him and his siblings! (Not male and female pair, mind - just once you get started, theres no ignoring the urge to love more...)
 
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Sometimes I think that rescues have a string of bad experiences and this makes them develop a tight policy. My local rescue, Freshfields, began microchipping their rabbits, for example, because they had so many white rabbits handed in as strays that they began to wonder whether they were seeing the same rabbits or different ones! They do also have a policy of not re-homing any animal to a family with children under five.

I would imagine that this is because families with small children surrender more pets than any other group. They had quite strong words with me when the homechecker saw my backyard as I have a fence on one side (not a wall). The rescue said that I would have to dig down and put wire netting along the fence so that my rabbits wouldn't dig their way out. They said this even though they knew that my rabbits were going to be houserabbits. I felt this was over the top, as my bunny Norris only ever goes into the yard for a few minutes to eat the dandelions and has never shown any inclination to dig. I am always out in the yard with him and he sees the house very much as his 'home' complete with wifeybun, radiator, fitted carpets, hay, pellets and veggies so he has no reason to roam!

I used my judgement and did not carry out the suggested work. To be honest, if they'd withheld the rabbits on the condition that the work was done, I don't think that I would have adopted them: the physical work of emptying a foot of soil and lining the trench with wire netting would not have made the adoption feasible.
 
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I imagine they have their good reasons for such 'rules', but using common sense it would be straight forward enough most of the time to determine who's a responsible owner children or no children. For example if someone turned up at a rescue looking for a guinea pig and had not done any research they are going to say the 'wrong' things when talking to the rescue, e.g. I'm looking for a guinea pig for my daughter, or I'd like a guinea pig to be kept on its own, maybe not quite the way I've put it but not having done the research, or being an experienced owner would certainly become apparent very quickly.
Obviously being experienced or having done research does not automatically make one a good owner, but surely that's what house visits and interviews are for. To just cut off large amounts of potential forever homes for the piggys isn't the best policy but I guess it makes things a lot more straight forward for them.
I live in Northern Ireland, so should the time come where I'd be looking at another piggy I know I'm going to have problems as the nearest rescue is many, many miles away and I'm not sure what their policies may be.
Anyway sorry for the long rambly post, it made sense in my head :)
 
I'm a little bit shocked by this ?/ as someone who is doing a Degree in childhood and have accumulated quite a bit of experience with children of different ages, I find it quite sad how little credit children are given :( why can't children be allowed to enjoy animals as long as an adult is willing to be the main carer and will keep an eye on them when they are with the guinea pigs? they will probably go out and buy one if they are refused anyway.... I'm so glad my local rescues in Manchester and Cheshire don't appear to have this rule as I would be pretty annoyed if they turned around and said I couldn't have one after owning them all my life especially as I'll hopefully be a Teacher by the time I have any children ;)
 
Boars don't get along if they're not from the same litter...that is bull!

All my male piggies are from entirely separate litters, even separate parts of the UK!

And not all children are wild little monsters. As long as they have supervision while holding the Guinea pigs, I don't see the harm. :(

<3~ xx
 
Boars don't get along if they're not from the same litter...that is bull!

All my male piggies are from entirely separate litters, even separate parts of the UK!

And not all children are wild little monsters. As long as they have supervision while holding the Guinea pigs, I don't see the harm. :(

<3~ xx

Ditto as regards the boars, and my children ARE little monsters- but they're not allowed to mess with my piggies :) I'd gladly trade them for piggies most days though- wonder if any rescues would take them as a swap :)
 
Another thing that is quite important to consider is that if rescues put in so many stringent rules and prevent families with young children taking a rescue pig, it could well mean that the family could then go to Pets at Home and buy a pig from there, which is exactly what the rescues dont want to happen. Its the same with the Dogs Trust, their rules are so ridiculously stringent i am surprised they manage to rehome any dogs at all.
 
I found adopting my dog very strict, we got her from the RSPCA although my mum was working part time at the time of adoption (5 hours a day, four days a week and me at school who was coming home on a lunch time for an hour) we had to bring my grandma along to adopt our dog as their guidelines were that dogs could not be kept alone for four hours or more, even though I was going to break up her day by visiting on my lunch hour. They were also not pleased that we had gone in looking for a small 'toy' breed and decided to go for Tara, a medium staff bull cross which they tried to persuade us from adopting as we initially wanted a smaller breed. Which is slightly barmy, considering we've owned many breeds of dogs from cavaliers to Springer spaniels and we were offering an unwanted animal a loving caring home. We were also told to change the fence, (the fence was the same height as myself 5 ft 4) to a higher one before we could be approved. We did all this and were accepted as a good home.

I do find the adoption process of any animal a bit daunting to be honest, i know that home checks need to be thorough but the rules of do's and dont's can be off putting for any new owner, i understand why they are in place and agree with them completely but some of the rules are slightly OTT for some rescues.

My OH and I are thinking of adopting a couple more piggies in two/three years time when we are in a settled home, but as well as this we would like children in four/five years time too, so we are unsure if a rescue would allow us to adopt if children were going to come along in the following year of adoption.

I think couples/people with children, who are supervised, should be allowed to adopt esp if they are a good home. I see no problem with it.

If I was rejected on the grounds of children I'd probs go to preloved/ my local paper/ ask around in my local area and find a piggie free to a good home. :)
 
Another thing that is quite important to consider is that if rescues put in so many stringent rules and prevent families with young children taking a rescue pig, it could well mean that the family could then go to Pets at Home and buy a pig from there, which is exactly what the rescues dont want to happen. Its the same with the Dogs Trust, their rules are so ridiculously stringent i am surprised they manage to rehome any dogs at all.

That's exactly my point really- it's hardly surprising so many people use PAH etc when some rescues make it so hard to adopt- at least a rescue could give accurate information and advice on cage sizes, how they need careful handling etc, turning away families isn't going to stop them getting a piggy, just put them off rescuing one.
 
That's exactly my point really- it's hardly surprising so many people use PAH etc when some rescues make it so hard to adopt- at least a rescue could give accurate information and advice on cage sizes, how they need careful handling etc, turning away families isn't going to stop them getting a piggy, just put them off rescuing one.

Highly agree with this. My guinea-holic friend and I were chatting at the yard tonight, someone she knows has just lost a female pig and left one on her own. She wanted to get her a friend but the rescues she tried near here said no as she has young kids. My friend suggested the rescue we both go to but it was too far for this lady to travel, so she went to pets at home and got a girl piggy, no travelling, no questions asked, one piggy no waiting!

I personally have found the lack of contact from a couple of rescues very frustrating. I know you need to look after the pigs and this takes time, but responding to an email takes all of five minutes. One rescue I was in contact with turned their phones off at 5pm - er I work until 5pm, as do many people, so this made things pretty much impossible! I consider a rescue a bit like a business in that you need to make a good initial impression and get back to your 'clients' (for want of a better word) ASAP, as when you consider you can just go and buy a guinea pig from shops open til 8pm whenever you want, no response to an email for over a week will put busy people, who in this modern world consider an email unanswered for more than ten minutes too long what with iphones and such, right off.

This is the PA side of me coming out I am afraid :red
 
This is an interesting discussion. For the record, I think that many of the rescues who operate on this forum would adopt to a family with small children. However, I can see that animal rescues as a whole operate in very difficult moral terrain. If your surrendering statistics or if research has shown that families with small children are not a good bet to adopt to then I can see why a 'blanket' rule is put in place. I also suspect that in many cases it is more relevant for larger animals (with longer life spans) than smaller ones.

I also wonder whether it is because having children signals that your family environment is changing and may change again as your children's needs develop? I would imagine that this is also why a lot of animals end up in rescue.

@Doeylicious I see your point but I given the very poor financial state of most animal charities at the moment I think we should bare in mind that they cannot offer the levels of customer service that they would perhaps like. Longer opening hours would cost them money that they simply don't have and the animals needs must always come first. I think another problem is that the internet has meant that everyone received far more email enquiries than they ever used to. I dread to think of the number of random messages rescues get nowadays.
 
That's a very interesting point re the changing circumstances TLP (hope you don't mind me abbreviating, my fingers get sleepy this late!). From my own personal experience we had a lot of animals until I hit 15/16 and those damn GCSEs came along, as it happened a lot of them came to the end of their lives before this time so we were only left with two guineas to care for, but I can see it would have been an issue getting 11 GCSEs and caring for the zoo we had before!

This however raises the issue how old do you apply the rule to? As my experience shows the older kids are more likely to present the changes, such as when parents move house to be closer to a secondary school etc (seeing this more and more now due to school's acceptance policies) or go back to working longer hours as the kids get older...hmm...

I do see your point re the admin, and I wouldn't advocate longer opening hours per se as a lot is run from home and I wouldn't blame them not wanting us motley lot turning up at all hours lol. It's just the time it seems to take to get back to you that is a bit frustrating I think, when it is a week or more a lot of people aren't that patient in the 'get it now right now' society we live in. Those who want to rescue will be patient, but someone just wanting a guinea who doesn't really get how hard it is to look after x piggies and be a top class secretary might not.

I personally blame Asda etc. for starting the 24hour opening craze - it has led people to want everything at every hour of the day. I got someone phone me about boarding at 9.30pm the other night, I am a night person and only 25 so didn't mind so much, but really I consider that a bit late to normally call someone. Texts are a bit different as they are less intrusive.
 
@Doeylicious: I think it is the internet that has made us think that it's OK to expect 24 hr service.

As a university lecturer, I sometimes get students e-mailing at 10pm and then phoning the department at 10am because I haven't replied. My all-time great was a parent who e-mailed on Boxing Day to say that her daughter (living in France as part of her course) was homesick. In the olden days, we would just have been uncontactable but now everyone wants a quick response.

I agree that a week is a long time to wait. Sophiew has posted in the 'boycott' thread that she has always replied to people very quickly (her background is marketing) and that often they have already bought from a pet shop. I guess that if you don't have enough staff then you probably don't make replying to e-mails a priority if you are a rescue if people have generally bought from a pet shop already.
 
I won't say what I would have told that parent...when I worked as an estate agent my manager got a call at 10pm Christmas Day evening from one of our Asian clients who claimed not to know it was Christmas (ok so you don't celebrate it, but come on, people start talking about it in July!) asking to view a house at 9am the next day. Her husband hung up on him!

I think what you say in your last paragraph shows exactly what a catch 22 situation it is. People just seem to have no patience these days, just look at the way people drive, always tailgating and cutting you up...it's like waiting for anything is too much to ask.

I know I am going off topic a bit here but it really bugs me when people can't wait 24 hours for an answer for something, I read what SophieW wrote about how quickly people go to a pet shop instead and was quite shocked to be honest.

I wonder if anyone on here would be able to volunteer for rescue admin work rather than piggy care? As I think this side of things could be just as important - think updating sites, getting back to enquiries etc.
 
In all honesty many of the rescues are piggie rescues so it doesn't seem to be a lifespan thing. e.g.

"Please note that we have taken the decision not to allow our rescued piggies to go to homes with children under the age of 9 years. We realise this will stop alot of people rehoming a rescued animal but at all times priority is with the well being of the animal. Some of these piggies have been through horrendous situations so they deserve the very best. This is our decision and it is has been made for the piggies. Please remember these piggies are not toys and so we wont allow them to be treated as toys."

or

"We have to make it clear, and to save any disappointment to you and your children, that WE DO NOT REHOME an animal to ANY HOME WITH A CHILD UNDER THREE! (This is for Health and Safety reasons for YOUR FAMILY as much as for the animal)."

are just two I could remember off the top of my head.

Also as regards the changes I don't really understand the logic of that, in my early 20's I moved house/city etc a lot, would disappear for days on end partying, not get out of bed all weekend etc, having a family has forced me to have a much more stable life, going away anywhere has to be carefully planned, as would house or career moves etc due to schools/childcare etc, which is why I never had pets as an adult until after my kids were born- and I then realised they fitted into my lifestyle better.

I have heard of people who have given up animals after having a baby and realising they don't have the time, but having a baby can happen to anyone, and actually people who already have young children understand better the time commitment and the need to do things at 1am sometimes just to fit everything into a day.
I just feel that statements like those I quoted above off rescue websites are exactly the sort of thing that sends people rushing to P@H where they know they won't be refused a piggy.

I mean seriously- I could adopt or foster a child, but not a piggy :)
 
In all honesty many of the rescues are piggie rescues so it doesn't seem to be a lifespan thing. e.g.

"Please note that we have taken the decision not to allow our rescued piggies to go to homes with children under the age of 9 years. We realise this will stop alot of people rehoming a rescued animal but at all times priority is with the well being of the animal. Some of these piggies have been through horrendous situations so they deserve the very best. This is our decision and it is has been made for the piggies. Please remember these piggies are not toys and so we wont allow them to be treated as toys."

or

"We have to make it clear, and to save any disappointment to you and your children, that WE DO NOT REHOME an animal to ANY HOME WITH A CHILD UNDER THREE! (This is for Health and Safety reasons for YOUR FAMILY as much as for the animal)."

are just two I could remember off the top of my head.

this made me smile...

I'm not embarassed to admit that i was pregnant at 15 and mom to a baby boy at 16...
and i wouldnt be where i am today with out this...
I'm furthering my education, single parent, and mommy to now 5 piggies one of which I'm hand raising...!
i know that most people my age wouldnt be able to get up every 2 hours to feed a tiny little guinea pig... there all out partying, something which doesnt appeal to me...
so in some ways.. having children helps you committ when you have a very poorly piggie...
i have a child, which i care for all by my self, i go to college, keep a house running, I'm 18, totally undesirable to adopt guinea pigs, but i try my up most to care for my girls. if it means i have to get up every 2 hours, i get up every two hours.... i am extremly devoted to careing for my extended furry family... :)

**rant over**
 
I take your point hellsbells, especially about the period in your life which is most stable. For me, getting pigs was partly about giving myself some stability. I had 12 small furries last year but have decided to not to replace my animals as they die to give myself some space should I want to have kids in the next couple of years. I would like to have more pets in the future, though, and definitely think that I won't be waiting until my children are nine before getting more piggies!

I think that decisions like these should really be made on a case-by-case basis.
 
In all honesty many of the rescues are piggie rescues so it doesn't seem to be a lifespan thing. e.g.

"Please note that we have taken the decision not to allow our rescued piggies to go to homes with children under the age of 9 years. We realise this will stop alot of people rehoming a rescued animal but at all times priority is with the well being of the animal. Some of these piggies have been through horrendous situations so they deserve the very best. This is our decision and it is has been made for the piggies. Please remember these piggies are not toys and so we wont allow them to be treated as toys."

Thank you for this quote which is from my website, its a shame you didn't put the next paragraph.
 
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