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blood in the cage - maybe ches?

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it's not looking too good. vet was very worried by the amount of blood. he doesn't need a dental. vet doesn't think it is a uti.

ches had dropped weight today, his temperature reading was low, his muscle tone/body condition is not good. his lips and nose are pale, and the vet took bloods and his blood is watery.

we're waiting on the blood test results which the vet will ring with in a few hours. he's thinking anaemia and possibly something else which is probably not looking like something good.

poor ches is looking a bit shell shocked. we have recovery food for him as he's not eating very well. he's come off septrin but will stay on metacam for now.

i'm really really worried and very upset. i'll update later after the vet rings.
 
biscandmatt said:
there is no blood on his bum or with his poops. roll on the next few hours, i can't wait to get to the vets.

i'm worrying so much yet ches seems ok generally. :{
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I am in this predicament right now! My OH is on pig watch and I can not wait to take him to the vets!
 
Try and stay positive. My thoughts are with you as I am currently going through the same ordeal myself.

Keep us updated and good luck x
 
HUGS!

I am sorry that it is not good news! I really hope that your vet can find out what is the matter with Ches and stop him from deteriorating further. You are right, his symptons are not that of an UTI - not with that amount of blood and not with it continuing despite treatment.
 
Oh dear I'm so sorry - poor little ches and poor you!
I don't have any experience or advice to offer I'm afraid, but wanted to let you know that I'm thinking of you & hoping the vet finds out that whatever is wrong is easily sorted xxxxxxxxx
 
Does sound symptomatic of a UTI or a possible stone, my vet performed an x-ray on our boar without a GA to confirm a huge stone 8...but with antibiotics, analgesia and finally, surgery, he was soon a picture of health :)
The blood tests may show Ches is anaemic hence him having pale lips -
Just found this to give you some back up:
http://www.oginet.com/pgurney/anaemia.htm
C'mon Ches, we want you to get well very quickly and send lots of healing vibes to you x>>
 
sorry for the late update - we have to wait until tomorrow for the blood results as they were waiting on something or other. so another long night.

ches is looking very tired. he doesn't have much strength and i think that might be why he is struggling to eat. he did come over for his tea and stayed eating until the plate was cleared, although very slowly.

when i gave him metacam earlier, he also had some veg aswell. he seemed to eat a bit, then almost look like he couldn't breathe and eat at the same time. he was practically nodding off.

he's still trying bless him, but he doesn't look right. 8...

we have had alot of cuddles though and he is trying his best to eat hay and veg.

thank you so much for all the vibes etc. x
 
BIG HUGS!

Would you consider giving him a bit of metatone (about 0.2ml) to perk him up a bit? You can get that in any pharmacy.
 
Keeping Ches in our thoughts. Lots of vibes and fingers and paws crossed x x
 
we got the bloods back -

- ches is anaemic but his body but it is a regenerative anaemia and his body is fighting it very well and he has a massive amount of new red blood cells. in that respect he should have built his red blood cells back up in as little as three days.

- his results how that he has had a massive blood loss though and the vet thinks that is the result of a haemorrhage/burst blood vessel from the urinary tract region. something has obviously caused that but we don't know what yet. he said it is more common in pregnant females.

- the reason he was struggling to eat was basically because he physically didn't have the energy to pick his food up and to chew. but last night ches started to eat much, much better and faster.

- results show his kidneys and liver are working fine. i think he said his heart is aswell but can't remember for sure.

- ches is staying on pain relief but should be feeling much stronger over the next few days to a week. the vet said for the amount of blood loss there was he would have been feeling very weak and poorly. the almost 'staring/shock and swaying' he was having was due to the shock of what his body was going through and the pain.

- we have to keep an eye on how pale he is, as if the cells are reproducing well then he should start to get some colour back in his membranes.

- the vet said it's like a person having a big blood loss, they will be pale and very weak, and not wanting to eat or not having the energy to, and being a bit shocked at the whole situation.

- next week ches will be having more tests and xrays so we can try and see what is going on inside his urinary tract and a basic overall look at his health. he will also have another blood test to see whether his red blood cells have replaced themselves.

last night ches did seem brighter and was moving around a bit more and eating alot better.

i can't believe he could have burst a blood vessel/had a haemorrhage. so scary.

we have increased his metacam slightly aswell and hopefully, he should start to feel better over the next few days.

he's having metacam at 12.30 today and will be weighed aswell so i will update on his weight. he was 1100g before getting ill, dropped to 1005g (-95g), back up to 1023g (+18g) then back down to 1006g at the vets yesterday.

poor ches. it's bad what has happened, but for now at least it's looking hopeful that his body is fighting hard and he should be feeling stronger in a short space of time. x

eta: forgot to say - i think it was the red blood cell count that should have been 35-37 and chesneys was 11.7 or something. so it was a massive massive blood loss. poor ches.
 
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weight -

1006g to 993g (-13g)

not good but maybe not surprising considering the long day they had yesterday and the vet did say ches may drop some more weight before building back up. still upsetting though as this is by far his lowest weight ever.

he had his metacam no problems but he does look tired, although he normally sleeps at this time anyway. he's not looking right obviously but i think he's doing well. i don't want to expect too much too soon from him. x
 
Poor Ches :( As an anaemic person myself, I know how he feels tiredness wise. At least you now know what is wrong and I hope your vet can find out what caused the blood loss i the first place.

I shall keep everything crossed that Ches makes a speedy recovery xx
 
Poor Ches, at least now you know what you are dealing with... Hope he starts feeling better soon. Thanks for the update. x
 
Aw, he's a trooper :)
Hope Ches starts to feel better very soon, it's a lot for a little furry to go through and he's probably exhausted zzz
Sending lots of healing vibes and hugs from us all here xx>>>
 
Bless him x

Keep him warm & perhaps try him with some spinach, it will help with replacing the iron levels lost from the blood loss. :)
 
Poor Ches, hope he recovers and feels better soon, try not to worry as you have done everything you can for him, he is lucky to have such responsible people looking after him. Which one is he on your avatar picture?
 
Claire W said:
Poor Ches :( As an anaemic person myself, I know how he feels tiredness wise. At least you now know what is wrong and I hope your vet can find out what caused the blood loss i the first place.

I shall keep everything crossed that Ches makes a speedy recovery xx
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i have depleted iron stores but i'm not anaemic but the tiredness is awful. to know ches feels so exhausted is really upsetting. but he's really trying hard, he's doing so well and i am so proud of how he is trying. x
 
bessiehen said:
Poor Ches, hope he recovers and feels better soon, try not to worry as you have done everything you can for him, he is lucky to have such responsible people looking after him. Which one is he on your avatar picture?
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he's the little ginger one. x)
 
Wiebke said:
BIG HUGS!

Would you consider giving him a bit of metatone (about 0.2ml) to perk him up a bit? You can get that in any pharmacy.
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i forgot to mention the metatone to the vet. we are going to get some though because it will be one of those useful things to have in the meds box. will it just perk him up a bit, and increase his appetite maybe? his appetite isn't completely there yet, mainly with his hay. veg he is fine and he is eating pellet mash and normal hard pellets. hay takes alot more effort to chew though so maybe his strength isn't enough yet that he can manage as much as normal. he is eating hay though, just not what he normally would.
 
there's been some improvement from ches. he is moving around more and rumbling at maisie. :))

he seems a bit stronger and his weight today -

993g to 1000g (+7g) - going in the right direction. :)
 
it is great to see that the weight loss seems to have stopped. I hope that Ches will start to feel better and recover now that he is on meds.
 
biscandmatt said:
i forgot to mention the metatone to the vet. we are going to get some though because it will be one of those useful things to have in the meds box. will it just perk him up a bit, and increase his appetite maybe? his appetite isn't completely there yet, mainly with his hay. veg he is fine and he is eating pellet mash and normal hard pellets. hay takes alot more effort to chew though so maybe his strength isn't enough yet that he can manage as much as normal. he is eating hay though, just not what he normally would.
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You can give Metatone daily, 0.5 ml for a week, then 0.3 ml daily for a further week according to Peter Gurney's Piggy Potion book :)
 
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