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blood in the cage - maybe ches?

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forgot to ask aswell - ches is having supreme science recovery food but should i add a vit c tablet to it? i have the oxbow ones here. is it a whole tablet?
 
biscandmatt said:
forgot to ask aswell - ches is having supreme science recovery food but should i add a vit c tablet to it? i have the oxbow ones here. is it a whole tablet?
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Is it recovery plus or just science recovery I don't believe the Science recovery has added vitamin C but the recovery plus does.
 
it's supreme science recovery. he loves it but i have to water it down alot more than it says to.
 
i'm sooooooo excited! we have found a great routine that seems to be working really well.

i offered ches some cut up timothy and rye hay earlier and he loved it and it took him a while to chew it but he loved it so much that he ate alot. and then he went over and had some pellet mash.

i thought i could get him out every few hours and offer him a plate of different things. so i put small amounts of veg and hay and pellet mash and the first time he ate about 1/3 of the plate! then he had syringe food after. when he went back in the cage, for the first time he didn't go straight to his corner to rest! he went and carried on eating hay!

i got him out again at 4pm and at 7pm and he ate over half the plate of food! he could take his time because maisie wasn't there to steal it. and then he had more syringe food than he has been taking. and he's eating much better and for the first time i didn't hear any gurgles from his tummy.

i'm so pleased we have found a routine that he really likes.

he's having another plate of food offered to him in another few hours followed by another syringe feed. and i mix up what veg is offered to keep him interested.

tomorrow o/h is buying him some green oat and dandelion from wilkos, and i'm going to make a hayexperts order on wednesday and get some orchard grass as a treat aswell as more recovery foods.

he's eaten more this afternoon than all of yesterday and the day before put together. i'm sooooo happy. xx>>> i can't explain how pleased i am and how proud of him i am. x) :<>
 
biscandmatt said:
it's ashleigh vets in whalley range. we see aidan and he is really really fantastic. x
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My boys are registered there too. They come really highly recommended. Shame I'm in London though! Still good to have them registered for when we journey up North!
 
i knew we had started to make progress yesterday -

weight - 902g to 908g (+6g) :<> i know it's not the biggest increase but we are now going in the right direction :(|)

chesney's overall weight loss (providing he doesn't lose anymore) was 198g! :( so we still have a way to go but i'm really pleased with a 6g gain today. :)

we have a routine that is working really well. ches is happy with it and syringe times are running more smoothly :)) he takes meds so well and recovery food aswell and then he loves his reward of a plate of food where he can eat whatever he wants from it :))

o/h is out at the moment getting some mixed salad bags from asda and some green oat and dandelion from wilkos. so ches will be pleased later. :))

he's eating by himself between syringes aswell, mainly hay. he's still resting on the heatpad but is keeping his temperature fairly well by himself and is moving around a bit more.

he nuzzles against me when he's had enough off the plate and then i scoop him up onto my chest for cuddles and lots of praise x)
 
weight today -

908g to 921g (+13g) yay! :<>

still not been any blood in the cage since his bladder flush aswell :<>

we have a great routine going here and today we both agree his fur looks shinier and his eyes look brighter! :<>
 
ches was a naughty piggy with his syringe feed last night and this morning and decided he didn't want much.

weight today - 921g to 918g (-3g)
 
Sounds like he is feeling better. Weight gain might be slow going (it often is after major illness), but the weight is stable and things are going in the right direction.
 
Wiebke said:
Sounds like he is feeling better. Weight gain might be slow going (it often is after major illness), but the weight is stable and things are going in the right direction.
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i kind of like that he is being determined and playing up a bit because it means he has some fight now. and he does it because now he wants the plate of food! :)) i am still going to syringe feed for now though, definitely until his weight is going up regularly.

i forgot to mention that his metacam got reduced yesterday so he may be adjusting to that. but 3g isn't too much to lose. aslong as he steadily builds up from now. i think there will be the odd few gram dip as we go along. i know it is better for them to build up over weeks and sometimes months.

he's so funny - he likes deal or no deal! i syringe him around that time and when it comes on he watches it :))

i think he's doing well so fingers crossed it continues.

i forgot to say that the vets rang on monday aswell to see how he had got on over the weekend. :)
 
it's been a week now since ches's bladder flush and there has been no more blood.:(|)

weight today -

954g to 962g (8g gain) :(|)

metacam has been slightly reduced again today aswell
 
i am so chuffed with how he is doing. he keeps calling for me and he is usually so quiet. it's so funny though because instead of wheek wheek it sounds like he says oink oink! :(|) and then he wheeks really loudly after that aswell! :(|)

i forgot to mention aswell, his lips and nose look their normal colour now. :(|)

i will feel much happier if we can get him back over 1000g and we're not far off. :(|)
 
weight today -

962g to 938g (-24g) :{

a bit disappointing that he's dropped weight again. i don't know why though. hopefully it's just another drop and then he will build up again.
 
weight today -

938g to 910g (28g loss) :(

we're basically nearly back to the start again. :(

i don't know what's gone wrong. obviously something is building up again. so far there are no signs of anything wrong, except the weight loss obviously.

i'm so disappointed. 8...
 
Oh No, only thing you can do is phone the vet Monday poor boy - piggies are so hard to find out what's wrong! x
 
It happens; 1 oz is still within the limits of a daily weight variance. See the vet if the downwards trend continues. Hopefully, the weight *** be back by tomorrow.
 
thanks. i will increase his recovery food. maybe he was adjusting to another change in metacam dose. :{

he seems ok. although he did look a bit tired today and didn't really put up much of a fight with his meds really. :(

off to syringe feed now but i'll keep updating x
 
poor little ches had some gas, that was why he was looking a bit off again. :( i heard his tummy gurgling really loudly last night and put my ear to his tum and could hear some gassy sounds. :( anyway, i gave gentle tummy massages and luckily that was all it took to get it out. he did some smelly gas and then his next poops smelled horrible but have been fine since. i'm so relieved that it just took tummy rubs, as more meds in him would have had me worried. i think because he has veg offered everytime he is syringe fed that i have overdone it. i suppose it could be that his gut has slowed down but i don't think it's that as he is eating alot of hay.

anyway, i will only be offering a few pieces of veg at syringe feeding times now and luckily he eats loads of hay.

we're back on track now and he is being fussy with meds and syringe feeding again! he has some fight back! :))

weight today -

910g to 923g (13g gain) :(|) so going the right way again now. :(|)

i'm getting nervous because tomorrow is his last day of marbocyl so hopefully he will still be ok once that is finished. fingers crossed.
 
ches finished his course of marbocyl yesterday. he's staying on metacam a while longer.

weight today -

923g to 935g (12g gain)
 
weight today -

935g to 953g (18g gain) :(|)

the last few days he's had a steady increase so that's really good :(|)
 
I've just caught up with Chesney's thread OMG what you both have been thru!
What a little trooper he is bless him xoxo

I know what you mean about over doing the nibbles with meds..... once you get your balance right it will sort out. I found with our boy that meds made him gassy too. It seems to be that horrible triangle affect doesn't it!
The fact that he still wants and eats lots of hay is fantastic :)

whee would like to send some loving and healing wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks

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Glynis said:
I've just caught up with Chesney's thread OMG what you both have been thru!
What a little trooper he is bless him xoxo

I know what you mean about over doing the nibbles with meds..... once you get your balance right it will sort out. I found with our boy that meds made him gassy too. It seems to be that horrible triangle affect doesn't it!
The fact that he still wants and eats lots of hay is fantastic :)

whee would like to send some loving and healing wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeks

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i never thought about meds causing gas, but i suppose that would make sense mallethead now he's only on a low dose of metacam he is doing better. and he only has a few more days left and then he comes off that. hopefully he will be ok. he was ok when he came off marbocyl so fingers crossed.

it's funny because he has recently decided that recovery food is extra tasty! rolleyes whereas when he needed to be having more he didn't want it. might be my fault though - i think i did it too cold. :red he's fussy! he likes very warm recovery food but pellet mash has to be stone cold. :{ anyway, he's now on two syringe feeds a day and i let him have what he wants and then he lets me know when he's had enough. he probably doesn't really need them to be honest as he's eating normally now but i thought i will still offer him two a day until he's off metacam as as his doses have got lower he has had a little drop in weight as he readjusted. x
 
weight -

953g to 933g (20g loss)

there seems to be a pattern now with his weight. he gets up into the 940's, 950's 960's and then drops back down a bit and then back up again but doesn't seem to get past that amount. it looks like he is beginning to become stable at this weight. i would have preferred him to get to at least 1000g but if this is what his body is doing then i can't do much about it. it just worries me alot as when he gets ill he easily drops close to 100g in as little as 5 days.

like i said above - he is still being offered recovery food twice a day which he loves now. and i let him decide how much he has. it's about 8-9ml he wants.

he's eating normally now and moving around normally. he looks very healthy now (maybe a tad too skinny) and his lips and nose are normal colour. there has also been no more blood.

he's coming to the end of his metacam course now. we have a few days left so we'll see how he gets on. i'm going to offer recovery food for at least a few days after he stops metacam but i'm not sure how long to continue it for. i don't know if he is going to gain anymore weight now.

i suppose it may take him weeks, even months to gain more. it did with my rabbit bisc who had anaemia at one stage aswell.

i don't want to say this too soon, but i think he's pretty much back to normal (minus the weight side) :)
 
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