Bonding: a live action multi player game that might last several weeks!

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Well... I went ahead with the attempt to bond Luna and Lavender, with Clover, Theo, Blodwen, Piggle and Puggle, yesterday.
And... now I can't go back on it because after a very positive start, 2 hours in, Lavender attacked her friend Luna! A sudden explosion of racing wheeking snarling fury... Clover and Blod stepped in the protect Luna.... Lavender got all fear aggressive and attacked everyone...
Then Lavender sort of lay down and cried and cried wheeking a sad lonely lament cos she realised she got it all wrong but she hates open spaces like the bonding pen and hates hoomans watching her and she just freaked out...
So no way back for big lilac bum Lavender, Luna has joined the herd, so we took a chance and put them all in the clean cage, its actually bigger than the bonding pen but more prey animal friendly being L shaped and against the wall. No hideys anyone can get cornered in, just fleece and loads of hay. Instant calm but a few grudges.
And... its a maybe, like one one of those live action role player games that lasts for weeks.
The old queen Clover isnt speaking to the lilac challenger queen Lavender, but nevertheless seems to be enjoying herself. The old queen is occupying the fleecy 5x2 East wing, attended by Blod, Piggle, Puggle and Theo.
The lilac usurper Lavender is... very embarassed and a bit nervous, and occupying the far corner of the hay room and the 3x2 North wing if no other pigs are there. She is tolerating inquisitive visits from Piggle and Puggle from a safe distance as long as she is under a hay pile. Blod invaded today and took an intense passive-aggressive nap only a foot away and that was ok. Theo is Lavender's friend and she is getting used to him.
Luna the elderly princess who switched allegiance is mostly marvelling over the fact there is a 3x2 hay room just for hay burrowing, and is being escorted everywhere by handsome Prince Theo and visited by her new ladies in waiting Blod, Piggle and Puggle. She goes and stands by Lavender sometimes and wheeks at her and chatters her teeth.
Prince Theo is hopeful but exhausted because there are 6 ladies who all need worshipping and guarding and their faces licking all at once and two of them won't go within 10 feet of each other, its hard work but Theo is loyal to everyone and he wants all the ladies to be happy! He keeps subtly herding them closer together so he doesnt have to run so far.
So... maybe? No blood and no vet trips, but I darent put Lavender and Luna back together alone, Lavender doesnt realise how big she is and how old poor Luna is... its all a slow burner, that will either settle or explode...!
I think... Lavender and Clover are actually fascinated by each other because they keep slowly sneaking up to sniff each other's cage area then scuttling off...
The tudor court has nothing on the intrigue and shifting allegiance in the pig room, Theo would also like to point out that he has 6 wives ALL AT ONCE and Henry VIII couldnt manage that many even one at a time... Theo is the best husboar ever and would like a Nobel peace prize made of carrots please!
 
I really hope it works out for everyone. These piggies are very complex. Well done Theo. Keep up the good work. 😍
 
Hopefully it'll all calm down and everypig will accept everypig. Theo sounds like he is acting as moderator and peace keeper. He is such a lovely boy!
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Oh my word this must be exhaustingly stressful! I’m a worry wart so I’d be beside myself right now.

Question I was a tad bit confuddled by your message. Are all the pigs together in one cage and just Luna and Lavender are in separate areas?
 
Wow this sounds like a Christmas soap episode! I hope some peace carries on and they all get on in the end!
 
Oh my word this must be exhaustingly stressful! I’m a worry wart so I’d be beside myself right now.

Question I was a tad bit confuddled by your message. Are all the pigs together in one cage and just Luna and Lavender are in separate areas?
They are all in one cage, but the cage is an 11x2 C&C L-shape: a 5x2 fleecy room and a 3x2 fleecy room with a 3x2 hayroom joining them in the corner. There's just 4 inch high correx dividing the rooms with a 1ft wide gap cut in as a doorway. So its one cage but... with different areas, to allow for different opinions lol- pigs at war can be 12ft apart if they prefer, there's a water bottle and a corner hay tray in both fleecy areas too so mingling in the hay room or visiting the other fleecy wing is optional :)
The cage was designed to accomodate the infamously strong seasons of Lady Piggle in her youth, when sometimes her friends wanted to keep a safe distance!
 
Oh my! I do feel sorry for poor Lavender, putting her foot in it so squarely! I hope the herd peacemakers will smooth all the ruffled egos soon!
 
Good look with the bonding. Take it slowly and cover the bonding pen at least partially with a sheet. It does help with my very skittish piggies.
Should have thought of the sheet first, but by the time I realised that Lavender was getting in a panic about the open space she'd already chased and scared and squashed poor Luna and was working her way through chasing down and flattening my dominant herd ladies...!
Without Theo boar and a big piggy house this would probably be a disaster but... I'm stressed but quietly determined to see this through, and quite hopeful, I think we are reaching a truce where we have 5/7 well bonded pigs, (not the 5 that went in originally, we now have Luna plus Theo, Piggle, Puggle and Blod) who are also each bonded with or wanting to be bonded with one or both of the other 2, who are sneakily fascinated with each other but arent currently willing to admit it...
 
This actually sounds like classic herd bonding shenanigans to me. Well done for holding your nerve and reading the situation. It’s really nerve wracking. Hopefully all will calm down, and Theo willl get to keep and serve all 6 ladies of his court.
 
That sounds extremely stressful. You did well to hold your nerve. Hopefully Lavender will be able to put right her wrongs and they will all settle in together.

Well done to Theo for his hard work.
 
Oh gosh Lavender, what a dilemma you’ve put yourself in with your lilac rhino charging! You better get saying your sorries and making friends for the squishing or you’ll have to move in here with the silver rhino, he’ll make you regret it! ;):))
Hope things calm down and little Luna’s ok after the chasing down by her buddy too bless her ❤️
And big kisses (and some Lucozade) for lovely Theo, bet that was a tiring day for the poor lad! :wub:
Hope all goes well today and Lavender’s a bit less nervous. Sending a big hug to you after yesterday’s slight bonding madness! x
 
We have a bit of mingling this morning:
Luna (annoyed at being woken up!) with Blod and Lavender
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Lavender and Puggle with Theo just visible and Luna under the hay
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And Piggle and Lavender have been doing a lot of chasing but... I think this is fun zoomy chasing because they are stopping short of making contact, if Lavender catches up with Piggle they popcorn then set off the other way!

Lavender also crept up to Clover and licked her while she was asleep :)

Lots of action, but no more aggression so far!
 
Oh goodness! Bonding is so stressful.
Fingers crossed it continues to go well. Theo you deserve a medal for you hard work and dedication to the ladies.🏅
Hugs.xx
 
I've only ever done one bonding and there is still rumbling occasionally, several weeks later. But that also started with a fight, so it is possible to come back from that. Piggies are much more forgiving than humans over stuff like that or so I've observed.
 
Great news! Spent all day driving or should I say queuing our way home from West Sussex to Cornwall 9 plus hours. Just picked up my piglets from boarding at Maria‘s animal sanctuary, it’s nice to be back home and they are popcorning around now.
Hope all piggies continue to get to know each other and settle 😁
 
What a drama!
Human celebrity shenanigans have nothing on a good piggy drama.
Hope they do all settle down and every pig is happy.
If the Forum New Years Honours list had a category for the best husboar Theo would popcorn off with all the honours.
You probably need a strong coffee now - or maybe a glass of wine 🍷
 
You probably need a strong coffee now - or maybe a glass of wine 🍷
My guess is @PigglePuggle will go for a glass or two (or three) of wine/Prosecco. It's all for the piggies you understand. She sacrifices her liver so that her piggies have a regular supply of boxes!
 
Blimey I'm glad I didn't see this until things calmed down a bit. I'm in tears here reading about Luna and Lavender falling out, they were always so close. :(
I knew Lavender would cause trouble but not this much.
Glad Luna is finally happy with her new boyfriend, just hope Lavender comes round and makes friends with Luna again.
 
Blimey I'm glad I didn't see this until things calmed down a bit. I'm in tears here reading about Luna and Lavender falling out, they were always so close. :(
I knew Lavender would cause trouble but not this much.
Glad Luna is finally happy with her new boyfriend, just hope Lavender comes round and makes friends with Luna again.
Aw I'm sorry @Roclibrarian they will settle down, everyone is settling down now, and here and Lavender and Luna eating hay together in the playpen this morning chaperoned by attentive little Theo boar :)
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I was worried putting everypig back in the playpen while we cleaned the cage might be another flashpoint but I made some careful furniture choices and... no problems this morning, Clover is very nervous but coming round a bit, Lavender has stopped chasing everyone and is just at the curious bum sniffing stage, and they are both loving the big cage and so many friends to play with- Lavender is charging about with Piggle a lot who is as boisterous and daft as she is, and Luna is hanging out with Blodwen a lot as a little floof club, Luna likes sleeping where Blod has been sitting because its warm and damp lol I think a bum bath may be coming up but... not just yet, they are all rolling in each other's wee all the time to make a new herd scent to share :)
 
Blimey I'm glad I didn't see this until things calmed down a bit. I'm in tears here reading about Luna and Lavender falling out, they were always so close. :(
I knew Lavender would cause trouble but not this much.
Glad Luna is finally happy with her new boyfriend, just hope Lavender comes round and makes friends with Luna again.
Don’t be sad. It sounds like everything is going to work out nicely. Lavender and Luna still love each other. They just have a bigger family now. 😍
 
This is the surprise perfect match, Lavender and Piggle, I thought these 2 would fight but they are big bouncy best mates zooming and popcorning all night like a couple of mad rabbits!
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Theo is still chaperoning every interaction between any of his ladies as well as going to cheer up anyone left on their own, he's a very busy but happy little boar :)
 
Blimey I'm glad I didn't see this until things calmed down a bit. I'm in tears here reading about Luna and Lavender falling out, they were always so close. :(
I knew Lavender would cause trouble but not this much.
Glad Luna is finally happy with her new boyfriend, just hope Lavender comes round and makes friends with Luna again.

don’t be upset - my experience of bonding groups is that it is common - a bit like in human families when people pick on their familiar companion to take out their frustration but it’s short lived not permanent.
It sounds like they will make a lovely grouping once every pig is happy with their place and the arrangements.
 
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