Bright fresh blood in boars urine

[Guineasmama]

Hi all.

I refused a boar from a field nearby November 2020 (someone has abandoned him) so no idea how old he is or history but we named him Squeak and took him to vets for a checkup as they estimated he was under a year old.
Me and my daughters noticed this morning there was bright red blood in his cage. I thought he had injured himself and checked him over and called vet for an emergency appointment. Didn’t think it was a blood in urine as it’s just pure blood. I’ve got a 2 year old boar who gets blood in urine but it’s always a tinge of pink (he suffers from chronic cystitis).
I have another boar who is almost 5 and he’s fine. All in separate cages.

I took Squeak to the vets and he did another 2 fresh blood wee’s in cage. Vet took sample and it’s come back with crystals in your but she can’t check for anything else as the amount of blood is disguising everything.
She has prescribed him dog metacam once a day 0.2ml, baytril 0.6ml one a day and sulfatrim 0.3ml twice a day.
Squeak weighed 1202g on Thursday last week and today at vets, weighed 1180g.
Ive given all his medications this morning and he’s already on filtered water.
All my Guineas are on a low calcium diet but I wanted to check that bright red blood be passed in urine? I mean it’s like just blood and not even diluted?
I’m so worried and I don’t know how to help him. I’ve been giving him 5ml of water every hour and given him critical care at 11am. He happily had it and ate some nuggets on his own when I put him back in his cage. I can attack photos of the blood in his cage upon request but I don’t want to post Incase some people are sensitive to it.
Thank you in advance.

 

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[Wiebke]

Hi all.

I refused a boar from a field nearby November 2020 (someone has abandoned him) so no idea how old he is or history but we named him Squeak and took him to vets for a checkup as they estimated he was under a year old.
Me and my daughters noticed this morning there was bright red blood in his cage. I thought he had injured himself and checked him over and called vet for an emergency appointment. Didn’t think it was a blood in urine as it’s just pure blood. I’ve got a 2 year old boar who gets blood in urine but it’s always a tinge of pink (he suffers from chronic cystitis).
I have another boar who is almost 5 and he’s fine. All in separate cages.

I took Squeak to the vets and he did another 2 fresh blood wee’s in cage. Vet took sample and it’s come back with crystals in your but she can’t check for anything else as the amount of blood is disguising everything.
She has prescribed him dog metacam once a day 0.2ml, baytril 0.6ml one a day and sulfatrim 0.3ml twice a day.
Squeak weighed 1202g on Thursday last week and today at vets, weighed 1180g.
Ive given all his medications this morning and he’s already on filtered water.
All my Guineas are on a low calcium diet but I wanted to check that bright red blood be passed in urine? I mean it’s like just blood and not even diluted?
I’m so worried and I don’t know how to help him. I’ve been giving him 5ml of water every hour and given him critical care at 11am. He happily had it and ate some nuggets on his own when I put him back in his cage. I can attack photos of the blood in his cage upon request but I don’t want to post Incase some people are sensitive to it.
Thank you in advance.

Hi!

Has your vet checked whether your piggy has got real blood or intensely red porphyrine coloured urine? Porphyrine is a natural colorant that makes pees look like they are very bloody while they may or may not test for the presence of blood.
It is typical for the onset of a cystitis or urine infection, of which there are several varieties (UTI caused by faecal bacteria; bacterial cystitis usually as a result of bladder trauma from stones or sludge and sterile interstitial cystitis (IC), which cannot be healed by an antibiotic and needs to be managed with glucosamine and metacam since in this case the natural glucosamine layer on the walls of the urinary tract which prevent highly corrosive urine from coming into contact with raw tissue seems to be affected). Sterile IC is usually diagnosed by default after all other possible issues have been excluded.
Guinea Lynx :: UTI
Links - Interstitial Cystitis - Guinea Lynx Records

Has your vet also checked for that and have they checked the bladder for the presence of bladder stones or sludge and tested for increased protein in the urine (sign of an infection)?

PS: We only talk about weight after 50g or more are lost as the daily weight swing between a full/empty bladder and belly is about 30-40g over the course of 24 hours. So that is currently still very minimal and in no way highly concerning. The difference between my own kitchen scales and the vet scales is often around 50g, as my kitchen scales are not fully exact but good enough for tracking weight whereas a vet's scales need to be exact in order to compute medical dosages correctly.
Weight - Monitoring and Management

 

[Guineasmama]

Hi!

Has your vet checked whether your piggy has got real blood or intensely red porphyrine coloured urine? Porphyrine is a natural colorant that makes pees look like they are very bloody while they may or may not test for the presence of blood.
It is typical for the onset of a cystitis or urine infection, of which there are several varieties (UTI caused by faecal bacteria; bacterial cystitis usually as a result of bladder trauma from stones or sludge and sterile interstitial cystitis (IC), which cannot be healed by an antibiotic and needs to be managed with glucosamine and metacam since in this case the natural glucosamine layer on the walls of the urinary tract which prevent highly corrosive urine from coming into contact with raw tissue seems to be affected). Sterile IC is usually diagnosed by default after all other possible issues have been excluded.
Guinea Lynx :: UTI
Links - Interstitial Cystitis - Guinea Lynx Records

Has your vet also checked for that and have they checked the bladder for the presence of bladder stones or sludge and tested for increased protein in the urine (sign of an infection)?

PS: We only talk about weight after 50g or more are lost as the daily weight swing between a full/empty bladder and belly is about 30-40g over the course of 24 hours. So that is currently still very minimal and in no way highly concerning. The difference between my own kitchen scales and the vet scales is often around 50g, as my kitchen scales are not fully exact but good enough for tracking weight whereas a vet's scales need to be exact in order to compute medical dosages correctly.
Weight - Monitoring and Management

Thank you for your reply. The vet confirmed it was blood. Unfortunately she couldn’t test for protein or white blood cells as there was so much blood that it hid anything else apart from the crystals. I have ordered the glucosamine and it’s arriving today. I’ve been giving Squeak water every hour or so and critical care. Also wetting his vegetables with water. I’m happy to report the blood has turned to a pink tinge and he’s actually done a normal wee today. Obviously keeping up with the medication too, which I’ll carry on to complete the course.
He’s due a check up on Friday and the vet said if there was no improvement, then she will do an x-ray and ultrasound.
But he’s made an improvement. I slept in the lounge overnight where I keep my Guineas to keep an eye on him. Was just alarming to see urine that looks like blood taken straight from say our arm (like when we have a blood test). It was very thick when the vet took a sample. Wasn’t watery urine. She said the bladder must be extremely inflamed.