Can't cope with my guinea pigs

SusieW

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Hi guys, I haven't been on here for a while but wondering if anyone could offer any support.

I feel I am becoming increasingly unable to cope with my guinea pigs and I don't know what to do about it. I have 8 males, living in very happy pairs. They all live in c&c enclosures on fleece (one pair live in a 5x4 c&c with a 1x4 hayloft, one pair live in a 5x3 with 1x3 hayloft and the other 2 pairs live in a 5x4 with a 1x5 hayloft that is split in half) (not happy about that enclosure size but they've taken over everywhere and only ended up on half each as they fell out) and they all have loads of huts and tunnels and bridges and stuff. The oldest pair are almost 5 years old, the youngest ones are approaching a year then there's ones in the middle. I used to have a lovely boar trio (yep, I know it's frowned upon but I've had two really well functioning trios in the past) but when my oldest pig's two friends died (the last one in September) I didn't want to get any more guinea pigs but knew I couldn't leave him alone and for the short time he was alone he went downhill really quickly. I wanted to foster a guinea pig for the remainder of his life instead of getting another permanent one, but the rescues I contacted never responded (perhaps due to covid related issues) so I couldn't find him a friend of his own choosing as I normally would and rehomed privately as I didn't want to go to a pet shop. Very long story short due to fall outs and stuff I've got eight now, mainly due to one very tricky little boar who was meant to be friends with my original pig but who hates almost every pig he's met.

I feel like a total idiot and as though people will look at me as an animal hoarder or something, because I never wanted 8, it just ended up that way). I don't really want to rehome any mainly because I'm very distrusting of other people and would worry about who had them/where they would end up/if they would live in large enough enclosures etc etc, and I do love them all individually, and I'd feel so guilty if I did, although I feel like they would be better off with someone who they could be the centre of their world instead of with me, but I feel like I'm drowning in guinea pigs and feel increasingly unable to cope with them. I clean them out regularly, (although it was twice a day poo sweeping but since I've not been doing so well it's probably been once every couple of days instead which is hard to admit and I hate myself for), I do all their basic care, weigh them weekly and stuff but I just feel like it isn't enough and as though I can't keep on top of it. Everything i own seems to have hay and hair on it which shouldn't bother me but at the moment it's just all getting a bit much. The troublesome one is a bar biter too (started when he was alone for a short time when I was trying to find someone he didn't hate), and he's in my bedroom with his buddy and their 2 neighbours, but he's taught the others to bar bite too. I've never had a bar biter before and now I have 4. I'm extremely noise sensitive due to Asperger's and sometimes they make me feel like I'm going mad. My older two pairs don't make much noise and don't bar bite (all 8 are very chatty but that's quite sweet really even when it's overwhelming.)

Six of them have long hair (three of them initially had very short hair and it just sprouted out of nowhere) and those three seem to constantly be getting wee all around their back ends. I trim the hair around their bums and try to keep it clean, but it's like as soon as I've cleaned them and trimmed them they are filthy again within a couple of days which can't be comfortable, two of them (young brothers) also have really active grease glands, and generally greasy feeling hair which i haven't seen before with other guinea pigs, and whenever I need to wash them because they've covered themselves in wee, they end up covering each other in boar glue straight after which is a huge job in itself having to cut that out of their hair! The other three have hair that grows outwards not downwards so it's not a problem for those ones at least.

I just feel overwhelmed with guinea pigs. Every time I sweep up the poo, within five minutes it seems like the enclosures are covered in poo again. I feel overwhelmed with all of it which sounds so stupid as I'm well aware of how much guinea pigs wee and poo, I've had guinea pigs for quite a few years now, since the start of 2016.

We went away last week and my friend looked after them for the week and I feel like she did a much better job than me, despite the fact that she's got loads of her own rabbits and guinea pigs, she's at vet school and doing work experience and all sorts of other things at the same time, yet she still seemed to cope with them so easily and I just can't.

I have got whiteboards and notebooks keeping track of all the hayloft clean outs, fleece changes, weights, baths, health, nail clipping and everything else but I feel like no matter what I do they are drowning me.

I feel like the worst person in the world because I do love them all so much but am starting to almost hate owning guinea pigs. I have an ex working sheepdog who is my whole life, and walk a few other dogs (I don't have a full time job as such as I have ASD and a lot of problems with a stupidly large variety of severe mental illness problems) but basically don't have any responsibilities apart from the animals, I'm 27 but still live with my mum and dad so it's not like I even have a house to take care of as well, but I feel like I can't even cope. I have clinical depression anyway but the guinea pigs are making me feel worse because I feel like I'm not doing right by them no matter how hard I try. The only thing I care about is animals, especially mine, and animal welfare, so they shouldn't be so overwhelming but they are.

I feel suffocated by the pressure of looking after them and I am starting to wonder if I should maybe rehome the two younger pairs for their own good, especially since they are the ones in the 5x4 enclosure split in half so have the least space although i know it meets their requirements, although it would be really hard. I was hoping summer would be easier since they can be out in the garden more, so less poo in the house! But it doesn't feel easier.

Sorry for such a long post. I feel completely alone and trapped and don't really know what to do. I tried talking to my mum and dad about it and they don't sympathise at all, my dad just said "well you choose to keep buying more". I'm not keeping buying more, the last one was in Jan and that was solely because the little troublesome one had ended up by himself again and was extremely unhappy. But my dad doesn't understand they can't live alone and why I didn't just leave my oldest boy alone instead of getting any of the 7. I won't be getting any more, I didn't ever want 8 but they are at least all happy in their pairs, even if I'm not!

I don't know why I'm posting this really, I know no one can do anything about it, I just feel so alone and trapped and thought maybe some guinea pig people might understand feeling overwhelmed by them and their poo although to be honest everyone's enclosures that I see always look so perfect and spotless and like everyone else is perfect!

Sorry for such a long and depressing post. Does anyone else have a lot of guinea pigs and ever feel overwhelmed by them too? Does anyone with a lot of pets have any scheduling tips or ways to stay on top of things without getting overwhelmed?

I really do love them all, it's just 8 is a bit tough.

Thanks for reading if you've got this far!
 
I can relate to that. I have loads of pets and I get anxiety which flares up regularly and get really overwhelmed.

I dont have a partner so its all on me. I love them all (6 rabbits, 4 guinea pigs, 2 hamsters, 2 dogs) but it can feel too much.

Amazing what your mind can do ...
 
Wow, Flowerfairy! And I thought I had a lot with my 8 and one dog. I really admire your ability to do all that by yourself. I think it's so hard when you want to do the best for everyone but feel as though you're permanently falling short. Thanks so much for your reply, it's so kind of you. And yep, it is amazing what minds do.. unfortunately! :(
 
Hats off to you for looking after eight and also for recognising when things are getting difficult and being open about it here. I struggle sometimes juggling everything even with two piggies and I can assure you that their cage looks a right mess most of the time!

If you can deal with it emotionally, I would say rehoming the two younger pairs, as you mentioned, would be the best way forward. You have to look after yourself :hug:
 
Sending you big hugs, so sorry you are feeling so overwhelmed x
I can fully sympathise how you are feeling, four piggies in two separate cages in a small bungalow can feel like we are actually the lodgers in our house sometimes. I think if you can, I would definitely try to rehome your 2 younger boys. I can fully understand how you ended up with 8, we used to have two boys, then one sadly died, so we got Ted neutered and got two young females so he had company. Then when Ted died, I rescued a young neutered boar with the intention of having a new husboar for girls as they were very quiet. The bonding was a disaster, so then we rescued a lovely little female for Hector, so four piggies now in two large cages. I can well understand how that could increase again in time
The other thing I would say is chill, don’t be so hard on yourself. Sounds like you are very caring and your piggies live happy and healthy lives, don’t worry about a bit of poop, it won’t do them any harm. There’s loads of photos online which have super clean cages but they won’t be like that all the time. I think sometimes we are all wanting the perfect homes, lives, pets and family and at the end of the day it doesn’t exist, most of us just muddle through and do our best but it’s never perfect 😉
 
I’m so sorry to hear about your struggles and that you are feeling so overwhelmed.

I’ve definitely felt like that myself. I also suffer with anxiety and depression and there was a time around a year and a half ago that I barely did anything with the animals for a while, luckily I had a fabulous husband who picked up the slack for me, and I know how incredibly fortunate I was to have him look after not just me but all my darling babies too.

Please don’t think that other peoples cages are spotless. People (me included) tend to take photos when they have cleaned all the pesky poos up! I can spend ages cleaning the cage. I pop downstairs for a little while and come back and it’s poo-mageddon!

Take a breath, be kinder to yourself and make a plan. If you have been feeling like this for a while, then it may be a good plan to rehome some like you suggest. This may reduce some of your load and stress.

Sending love and kindness to you. x
 
I’m so sorry to hear about your struggles and that you are feeling so overwhelmed.

I’ve definitely felt like that myself. I also suffer with anxiety and depression and there was a time around a year and a half ago that I barely did anything with the animals for a while, luckily I had a fabulous husband who picked up the slack for me, and I know how incredibly fortunate I was to have him look after not just me but all my darling babies too.

Please don’t think that other peoples cages are spotless. People (me included) tend to take photos when they have cleaned all the pesky poos up! I can spend ages cleaning the cage. I pop downstairs for a little while and come back and it’s poo-mageddon!

Take a breath, be kinder to yourself and make a plan. If you have been feeling like this for a while, then it may be a good plan to rehome some like you suggest. This may reduce some of your load and stress.

Sending love and kindness to you. x
I love the “poop-mageddon” 😆
 
Sorry you are feeling overwhelmed, but it's great that you can admit it and be honest with yourself.

There is no magic number with pets, and if you feel overwhelmed then it is good to try and look for a solution. There will always be people out there who seem to manage better with more pigs and cleaner cages, etc. but your reality is all that matters right now.

I think rehoming one or two pairs would be a good first step. Clearly something has to change so you can continue to enjoy your remaining piggies, and there is nothing wrong in adapting the situation to suit your current needs.
Do you have a local rescue you could contact about it. Maybe you could offer to keep the piggies until a new home is found?

Good luck with whatever you decide.
 
I’m sorry you are feeling that everything is too much at the moment. I think sometimes (with depression/ anxiety) we can overthink things and they then get stuck on a loop in our minds. I would say give yourself a break with regards the piggy cleaning. I’m sure you are doing enough. Maybe if you are feeling like you are not coping as well as you would like maybe a trip to the doctors for a chat might help you? Take care.
 
I'm really sorry everything feels like too much at the moment.
I have kept guinea pigs for nearly 30 years. I really love them and don't really know adult life without them, but guinea pigs are a lot of work. I know from experience that 6 piggies in one group is my limit for a 'comfortable' life.

I have had more than one group for many years and I really admire anyone who can take care of more piggies and of more groups. I couldn't do it. And I couldn't cope with my group being kept on fleece.
Sometimes when more than two piggies needed a lot of extra care at the same time, I really was pushed to my limit.

From time to time I have guest piggies and I always celebrate when they are going home again.
Once I had 12 piggies in 3 groups for a month (my groups of 5 and 2 and 5 guests) and this was the worst piggy time in my life. I was always feeling that I was missing something. Yes, I have got a quite demanding job, but I don't have anxiety issues - so usually I don't get stuck in worrying about everything that could go wrong.

I agree with the posts above that you should think about rehoming some of your piggies, if you could really part with them, but also to take a step back.
Maybe your friend would be willing to help for two or three weeks and take some of the piggies temporarily, so that you could have a longer break from all the work.
And yes, we all tend to take pigtures after cleaning the cages. Guilty as charged.

So don't be too hard on yourself.
 
8 guinea pigs, nearly all with long hair, living in groups, sounds like a monumental amount of work. No wonder you feel overwhelmed. You're doing an incredible job.
It would definitely be fine to rehome some of them.
If you put cardboard or fabric along the bottom of the c and c to stop the bar biting, would that give you an immediate break from noise stress at least? Bar biting in your bedroom must be really stressful.
 
Firstly the emaculate poop free enclosures you see all over social media are a myth here's how my boys cage looks right now complete with a guilty looking spud.20210726_205105.webp

Secondly it's clear you care immensely and your boys mean the world to you. I have ASD and the mental health mess that comes with it too. It's easy to feel overwhelmed even when things appear to be going well on the outside it's how you feel that matters and if you can't cope then that's enough you shouldn't have to explain yourself. Could you talk about this with the friend that helped when you were on holiday. Is there a chance she could come over and help with cleaning jobs a couple of hours a week just to take some of that pressure off you. Or maybe even take a few piggies off you even just for a little while to see if that makes you feel better while you make a more permanent decision.

Thirdly don't rush. If you're worried you may regret it just take your time. I always find it helpful to set a date (I usually say 3 weeks) weigh up your options now but don't do anything until that date. Try to put it out of your mind as much as possible and just keep going the way you have been. In 3 weeks look back at how you felt then and how you feel now. This is what I did when I was struggling with work a little while back and thought I needed to cut my hours down, after the waiting period I decided I could keep my hours as long as I didn't take on too many extra responsibilities. If after 3 weeks you feel the same and you really can't go on then that's your sign to start looking at rescues.

Finally there is no shame in knowing when enough is enough. There is no shame in saying goodbye. There is no shame in skipping a day of cleaning. There is no shame in being covered in hay. There is no shame in a grubby pig. There is no shame in trying your best and There is no shame in putting yourself first after all who will bring them veggies if you're crying in the corner because it's all too much. You have autism, change is difficult especially when that includes a goodbye but there is no point in fighting to keep things the same when you don't want to stay feeling the same way.
 
Dear everyone!

Thank you all SO much for your kind, thoughtful and incredibly helpful replies. I can't tell you how much it means to me that you've all replied and every single thing you have all said has helped me so much. I've screenshotted all your messages so I can keep them and read them again. You've all obviously put ages and a lot of thought into your replies... thank you so much for taking the time to help me, it's so much appreciated.

It makes me feel so much better knowing you don't all have immaculate enclosures all the time (and thank you so much Sweet Potato for the incredibly helpful visual confirmation!😂) and everything you guys have said about non immaculate enclosures makes me think that maybe I'm not doing such a terrible job with them after all- I've honestly been thinking that I'm the only person who has any mess of any sort in their enclosures.

I would be devastated to rehome any but if I keep feeling this way I will seriously consider asking a good rescue for help. My biggest worry is that they will end up with a dodgy person. If I knew they would end up with a lovely person in a great enclosure and stay safe and looked after for their whole lives it would be easier, but I really struggle thinking they could end up somewhere worse than with me. I would also hate for them to end up as children's pets as none of them are used to children and our house is very quiet (they are the loudest things in the house!) so I don't think they'd like being children's pets, no disrespect to anyone with children, it's just mine aren't used to them. I worry so much about what would be their future if I gave them up and I don't know if that would be even worse than the stress of looking after them myself! I wish everyone who wanted guinea pigs were like The Guinea Pig Forum people then I think it would be easier. It's very difficult as I'm someone who takes animals out of rescue, not puts animals into rescue (all 4 dogs I've had and the majority of my 13 pigs are rescue- I don't have 13 now, 4 guinea pigs are dead, the other one did actually go back to the rescue as his friend died unexpectedly and I couldn't have any more at the time as my dog was dying of a brain tumour and I wanted to spend time with her, not a new guinea pig, and I didn't want the guinea pig to live alone so he went to live with a couple of girlfriends but I'd only had him six months and he always felt like a foster so that wasn't as tricky). I really strongly believe animals should be for life so I do want to avoid rehoming them if I can but really appreciate everyone who has said that it would be okay to do that if necessary.

I've washed the younger two pairs' fleeces tonight and given the 2 ones that always get covered in wee a very severe haircut 😬😳 to try and help that so I'm feeling a bit more on top of things (although the clean fleeces are covered in poo already!)

Thank you all again so much for all your help, I feel a million times better thanks to all of you and am so grateful to you all. 🥰
 
Glad you're feeling better. You've done more piggy care tonight than most of us 😊
I know what you mean about how people care for piggies. The Hazelcroft Rescue in Herts which I've adopted from, do stipulate that some piggies aren't for homes with children. Their application process is very thorough. If you could find a rescue like that it'd be great.
Or rehome on the forum? I adopted a lovely little boy last week from the special needs sanctuary in Northampton. I'd seen his rehome post here and kept thinking about him and then went for it.
 
I'm sorry you're feeling this way, honestly I have my ups and downs given how many animals I have and how many have issues and/or are on medication. This time last year I was suffering really badly with burnout, I'm not really sure what the healthy way to deal with it is but I just powered through it. The little wins I get with rescued piggies definitely helped, but I won't lie..there's still days where they need cleaning out and I ask myself what the hell possessed me to have 20 of them 🤣

If its financially doable, maybe look at boarding them somewhere for a few weeks and evaluate whether you feel an improvement in your wellbeing or if you really feel you could part with them, kind of like rehoming but without the commitment. Then if you change your mind it isnt too late, plus you get a little break from their care, which absolutely can become very intense. It's very underestimated just how much care they take.
 
The rescue locator has some great suggestions of very good rescues that will take good care of any piggies and will be sure to check any home before they let anyone adopt them. Hopefully as COVID measures ease you should be able to go for a look around rescues to make sure the place you're surrendering them to is going to be right for them. I'm sure you could talk to the rescue about your worries that they may end up as children's pets but honestly Guinea pigs (especially young piggies) adapt to new environments better than we give them credit for and I'm sure they'd settle in just fine and would get use to the noise.

People who surrender pets are not bad people and are no different from the rest of us. Anyone can fall on hard times or struggle with their health (mental or physical) and need to rehome animals that they could previously care for. It's not a failure, it's not taking on animals with poor intentions it's not an ideal situation but sometimes it's the best outcome of a bad situation.
 
I have anxiety and depression and just want to say you’re not alone feeling overwhelmed sometimes, there are days I can’t sweep their poos out or do floor time. My boys cage is far from spotless and I completely understand being overwhelmed by poo! We can only do our best and I know for a fact your piggies are in the best possible place :) big hugs xx
 
I know how you feel. At one point, I had three guinea pigs and two hamsters and one dog. I worked full time at a very demanding job. My husband helped out with the cage cleaning lots of times. How I ended up with three guinea pigs was because we got a young female who was pregnant. She got knocked up at the pet store. When all of the pigs died of old age, i decided not to adopt any more since they were a lot of work. Same thing with the hamsters. Today we have a dog who is spoiled rotten with love.

I did not want to re home any of mine, but I know sometimes it becomes necessary.

Please let us know how things work out. I wish you all the best!
 
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