Daktarin oral gel - well set in ringworm

[Emma Curly]

hi evryone i posted a few weeks ago about 2 new piggys i got and how tony they are now 1 is coverd in fungal so ive been usin daktarin cream and keeping there cage very clean but i saw someone say they also used the daktarin oral gel with the cream aswel i was just wondering how much to use please? as ive never used the oral 1 before? Thank you x

 

[Wiebke]

hi evryone i posted a few weeks ago about 2 new piggys i got and how tony they are now 1 is coverd in fungal so ive been usin daktarin cream and keeping there cage very clean but i saw someone say they also used the daktarin oral gel with the cream aswel i was just wondering how much to use please? as ive never used the oral 1 before? Thank you x

Hi!

Please see a vet asap and reclaim the cost from the pet shop you have got your guinea pigs from (if you still can)!
Advice on your customer rights and CORRECT ringworm care via this link here: What to check and look out for in new guinea pigs (vet checks, sexing, parasites&illness)

Please be aware that your current measures are in no way adequate to get on top of ringworm permanently!
Creaming only the bald areas will not prevent spores from the much larger infected areas to start new patches elsewhere in the body (as your advanced fungal is showing) and continuing the vicious cycle. No cream or gel will do the trick, I am very sorry to say!

Just normal regular cage cleaning will also NOT kill any of the thousands of spores that have been shed by now and that can stay live in any nook and cranny for up to 18 months. You need to invest into a vet grade anti-fungal disinfectant; the normal shop stuff is only antibacterial but will not kill fungal spores. Information on recommended effective products are in our ringworm hygiene guide.

Please read this guide here; it tells you exactly what you need to do and which medication (the most effective is prescription only) will help you to get on top the ringworm once and for all. As this has been obviously going on for a while now, you rather have an uphill battle on your hands.
Plese make sure that you do not infect yourself or transmit the infection further via your own clothes. The guide has very detailed advice on how to prevent the infection from spreading and and re-infecting. Unfortunately, the longer you wait, the greater the suffering for your guinea pigs and the more you have to pay in the end for the vet cost in addition to all the ineffective cheap skate home care.
All the necessary care tips are available to you via this link here: Ringworm: Hygiene And Pictures

What you are currently doing it just patching one pothole after the other in a crumbling road while five others come up at the same time elsewhere. Unless you treat the road as a whole, you simply won't get rid of the potholes. Unfortunately you will simply never get on top of ringworm with just creaming patches because they do not reach the whole infected area and they do not prevent the highly infective and long lived ringworm spores from spreading everywhere.
We have made that experience a decade ago and have had a decade to really work out what works and what. Unfortuantely for you, a LOT of the cheap and easy medical online home treatment advice does NOT work, as you are currently finding out the hard way.

PS: I have moved your thread to our specially monitored health/illness section for appropiate support and advice.

 

[Emma Curly]

ive only had her 2 weeks i only started the cream 3 days ago ive had a awful virus and sickness I'm not able to get to the vets atm as soon as i can of course i will ive been so unwel, i wood never just normaly treat but as ive been so unwel i didnt see what else to do! and i have the f10 thats what ive cleaned with x

 

[Wiebke]

ive only had her 2 weeks i only started the cream 3 days ago ive had a awful virus and sickness I'm not able to get to the vets atm as soon as i can of course i will ive been so unwel, i wood never just normaly treat but as ive been so unwel i didnt see what else to do! and i have the f10 thats what ive cleaned with x

Thank you for clearing that up. I am very sorry that you have been so badly ill!

But this means that you are still in the time slot you can reclaim any vet cost from the pet shop you have bought your guinea pigs from, so any appropriate treatment won't cost you. If you are ill, then please contact and inform the shop if you are in the UK so you can't be turned down because of any delay and can prove that the infection and exposure must have happened at the pet shop. You have in effect been sold damaged ware. Most chain shops in the US will allow for any health problem incurred in the first month after sale.

Please take the time to read the links in my previous post. They both contain valuable advice to help you get through this as best and quickly as possible, and to prevent any recurrance. We have had ample time in the last decade work out the most effective treatments and how to counter all possible ways of transmission and re-infection.
Ringworm in shop piggies is sadly persistently high, and the shops can't seem to get on top of it because it takes a REAL effort.

If you can't get to the vet tomorrow or on Saturday, please try to order the recommended dips from our ringworm guide online; the ones we recommend in the ringworm guide are suitable for young newly bought piggies as well and they are prescription-free. Brands vary depending on which country you are in, but we have listed both UK and US options.

Wishing both you and your piggies a good and permanent recovery!

 

[Emma Curly]

they where from a breeder shes been breeding for over 25 years apparntly! they where very tiny and I'm sure under weight when i got them i felt like id resuced them if I'm honest! I'm mot sure if I'm gonna be able to get out yet this sinus infection is horrdendous i feel like auch a bad piggie mum right now x

 

[Wiebke]

they where from a breeder shes been breeding for over 25 years apparntly! they where very tiny and I'm sure under weight when i got them i felt like id resuced them if I'm honest! I'm mot sure if I'm gonna be able to get out yet this sinus infection is horrdendous i feel like auch a bad piggie mum right now x

Please don't feel bad. You are doing what you can. If you can order the enilconazole from Hyperdrug (UK) for next day delivery, that would help as that will stop the spread in its tracks. Please make sure that you sit down and use a basin on a wipeable floor to prevent injuries from blind jumps but don't have to bend down too badly yourself. A bathtub or the floor of a shower is best as your piggies cannot escape a confined space.

I have spent a decade of my life with chronic sinusitis, so I know how painful it is. Book a gp appointment for an antibiotic, please. Sinusitis is a bacterial secondary infection.

Unfortunately anybody can set themselves up as a breeder (or a rescue) without licence and control, and the results can be accordingly. You seem have fallen victim to one the baddies.
With shops you have generally better protection than with breeders. Unfortunately as long as they make some money out of their piggies, they will continue more.
That is the reason why we have a rescue locator on the top bar where we list vetted good standard rescues we can guarantee for you are in perfectly safe hands and won't have any nasty surprises as theiy conduct a mandatory quarantine/vet care, pregnancy watch and only put up healthy guinea pigs for adoption that are used to human handling.

If your breeder is officially advertising guinea pigs for sale on free-ads, you can complain to your local council over trading standards and also report her anonymously to the RSPCA although there is not likely much going to happen on the second score.

 

[Emma Curly]

ive always resuced i dont know why i didnt this time! juat had sug my male castrated and was soo looking forward to him going in with his girls but its gonna take forever now! I'm now going to have a look online xx

 

[Emma Curly]

and ive already had anti bioctics didnt touch it, ive been sick with the dizzyness its awful xx

 

[Merab]

Sorry you’ve not been well.
It’s rotten trying to cope with your own illness and discovering your new piggy has ringworm.
Good advice on that given by @Wiebke
Hope you feel better soon

 

[Allie0078]

and ive already had anti bioctics didnt touch it, ive been sick with the dizzyness its awful xx

Bless you! I hope you get your piggies sorted soon (I know nothing about ringworm but you have already had some great advice about that).
First things first though - get yourself back to the GP (General Practitioner, not Guinea Pig ). If you’ve got a sinus infection that didn’t improve with the first course antibiotics, then you might need to switch to a different type. You don’t always need antibiotics for sinus infections - but if it’s making you that unwell then I would say it’s justified! You need get yourself checked out again.
Get well soon!

 

[Wiebke]

and ive already had anti bioctics didnt touch it, ive been sick with the dizzyness its awful xx

Poor you! Try inhaling with vicks and steam. You may need a different antibiotic; I usually have to because I had to many during that decade and have developed resistance.
PS: I have found that umckaloabo (geranium sidoides) does indeed work against sinusitis as one of the few things that do, so that is something else you could google.

The good news that once you get seriously going with ringworm, you should be past the acute phase within 7-10 days (3-4 dips at a 3 day interval).

You can bond once she is in the observation stage if you also dip your boy at least once during the following week to make sure that he is not coming down with it before the infection can become acute. At her young age, company generally outweighs quarantine.

Please double-check the gender before bonding.

 

[Merab]

How’s everything now - both you and piggies?

 

[Emma Curly]

I'm still not fab nearly 6 weeks now the ringworm on mabel is almost gone she has bald patches and the hair is slowly starting to grow back, quick question do you think shes still contagous? I'm only asking because i had dug done just over a week ago and he has an absess that hes on anti bioctics for and they are going to drain it next week if it hasnt gone down, marlene is now spending time with dug supervised and hes soooo much happier and not just laying about misserable, when can i let mabel spend time with them aswel? xx