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Did He Feel Pain? (need Closure For The Death Of My Piggy)

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Hi,

I am new to the forum. I must say, I really struggled with registration. I had to remove two links that were linked around the registration form, so of course when I clicked, it went to the link.

My piggy aptly named Pig was born into this world at the time when I was about 15-years-old. I am now 21-years-old. Sadly, this morning before work I had to witness my beloved furry friend go through the process of slipping away.

In less than 24 hours ago, I did not notice anything odd about him. He was quite happily jumping around, eating, drinking water, and throwing his hay and straw around.

Last night, I noticed that he started to become lethargic in that he would not lay still and kept moving and laying down on its stomach (pancake). He would not respond to my presence and just laid there. While I was watching him, I noticed he tried to grab onto the bottle nozzle and get some water, but it appeared he did not even have the energy to stand up and drink from it.

With that, I tried to feed him manually by placing the nozzle next to his mouth while he was lying down to see if he would try and drink it. Instead, he got up and casually went into his hut. I thought it was best to leave him and see how he was in the morning.

I was not aware of when he stopped drinking water or eating his food, but I do recall it took two beans from me and ate them, but left the other four, when I came back from work before I started he started to develop this behaviour.

I woke up at around 7am that morning and found him laying on his side. He appeared to be dehydrated as his coat was puffy and did not have like a fluffy feel to it. Again, I tried to feed him, but he was not taking it. At this point, I accepted the inevitable, and just tried to keep it calm while I stroked him and said my good byes.

He was gasping for air, and kept putting his head up as if he was trying to move or get up. I tried to entice him with a bean, and as I did that, he kicked his legs as if he was trying to run. He would run to the edge of the cage and pull itself up and poke his head over the cage when I had treats for him.

I continued to try and keep him calm by stroking and talking to him, while he slipped away.

I am absolutely devastated that he has gone, and I just want to know if this is normal or natural in that he was simply dying. I wish I could have gotten him to a vet, but unfortunately, I was not in a position to do this and felt terrible for letting him suffer like that.

I just keep thinking maybe he was not ready to go yet, and just how long he took to pass was because he was clinging onto life and waiting for me to do something to try and save him, but I was absolutely clueless and had no access to the Internet at the time, or any way of getting veterinary assistance.

Given how I have described his death, was this natural? I just need some closure.

Thanks in advance, and here is a picture of my furry friend affectionately named Pig:
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RIP my furry friend. I hope there is an endless supply of beans up there!
 
Hi welcome to the forum, I'm so sorry for your loss. This does sound normal to me and it is what we call "running to the bridge" and at that stage he would have been quite out of it and not necessarily aware of what was happening. It is very distressing to witness though, I have experienced it with a few of my hamsters but not my pigs as most of mine I have either found when they have already passed or they were PTS at the vets.
 
Pig was a beautiful guinea, I'm sorry he is gone :(.

I can't tell you that your guinea pig wasn't distressed or in pain because there is no way of knowing that. There was clearly something not right with him & perhaps his body was just shutting down. He was certainly a good age. It is good that he had you there for comfort at the end. I know it is so difficult to witness a much-loved animal dying whatever the circumstances.

It would be useful if you had access to vet care another time, most vets can offer advice over the phone if you call them in an emergency. Chances are the vet may not have been able to help your guinea to recover as it sounds like he was dying, but sometimes they can make it an easier journey.

I hope you are ok & will have lots of great memories of Pig's life with you to look back on.
 
It sounds to me like it was perfectly natural. It doesn't sound prolonged. Whatever the cause I don't believe he suffered really from what you described. The breathing is normal as he slips away and humans do it to. And the leg stretching may have been like a muscle spasm as his body shut down or it could have been a natural reaction to smelling the treat like he used to run to you. Dying is natural its the most natural thing every living creature can do. Pts can be a luxery but I am a firm believer that animals are more in tune with the nature of dying than humans and they are more at peace with their mortality than we are and therefore I don't believe he has in this case suffered. Hes a beautiful piggy and lucky to have shared his life with you.
 
I'm sorry. I recently lost one of my pigs so I know how upsetting it is.
 
HUGS

I am very sorry; Pig looks like a lovely piggy!

It sounds very much like multi-organ failure running its course. All a vet could have done would have been to put Pig to sleep and spare him the last few hours, but he wouldn't have been able to save him. It can be very disconcerting for those that are confronted with the physicality of death for the first time watching the body closing down; the vast majority of deaths unfortunately don't happen as drifting peacefully off in one's sleep, as is generally assumed.

Pig has lived to a very good old age for a guinea pig; take consolation in that!

It may however be good if you considered vet access (and being able to afford vet fees at any time) as an integral part of pet ownership, whether you have a small or a larger pet. Sooner or later, they all get ill and die; and it never happens at a convenient time!
 
I'm really sorry for your loss & my thoughts are with you at this sad time. R.I.P. Pig xx
 
So sorry for your loss. Take comfort in the fact you were there beside him and he knew how much he was loved. He was a good age and it sounds like your poor boys body was just tired and it was his time to go.....

It's hard to watch them leave us but it's a natural process and animals get much less stressed about it than us. He will have know it was his time and although we cannot say if he was in any pain or not, it sounds like he went peacefully and without the stress of a trip to the vets.

Hugs. x
 
I am very sorry to hear of your sad loss. For such little creatures, they leave an awfully big hole in your heart.

My Sophie passed over the Bridge in much the same way. The only thing wrong that I noticed was that she didn't want to eat any parsley the night before, when we were having a cuddle. The next morning, she wouldn't eat carrot either, so I knew something was wrong, but she didn't seem to be in pain. 5 minutes later, she was stretched out on her side, struggling to breathe. I immediately called the Vet who said Come straight away, but she had gone before I'd got my coat on.
 

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I am hugely sorry for the loss of your little boy.

RIP Little one
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Sorry that you have had to witness this. Unfortunately there is just something's that are meant to be. Don't blame yourself.
Big (((HUGS)))
RIP Pig x
 
Take comfort that you stayed with pig till the end and he knew you loved him. I stayed with my budgie for three hours till he died last week , just stroking him, and telling him I loved him, I found it easier although it hurt a lot , than not bieng with my piggie Andy when he was pts , that is hard because I couldn't say goodbye. I'm sure he didn't suffer if he felt pain you would have known. Just a natural thing but he had a long and full life. Remember as he was and do not blame yourself, you must have took great care of him to have had such a long life, my thoughts are with you. Rest in peace dear Pig xx
 
Sweet Dreams Pig - What you witnessed with pig is identical how my piggy Guiness died, I had an appointment with the vet ,
but he died in my arms just as you described with pig - it is heart wrenching, and the only thing that made it easier for me was that I was with him to the end holding and stroking him so he knew how much he was loved and not in a sterile room .
It will take time but the heart ache does ease ( although reading your post has evoked so many memories and tears) sending hugs your way.
 
I have also seen this way of dying. My Holly was relatively well as I went to bed, then I went to see her first thing in the morning to find her laying on her side kicking her back legs. I have no idea how long she was doing this for before I went in, but she died about a minute after I arrived in the room.

So sorry for your loss. :(
 
I'm so sorry for your loss.
I went to spain a week ago for 8 nights, I have 4 pets now I have 2 cats, a rabbit and I did have 2 guinea pigs. My friend look after the pets whilst I was away, but when I came back she took me too where my rabbit hutch is and said ' I'm so sorry but I went to feed the pets Saturday morning and they were all fine but come Saturday afternoon I found gizmo lying there dead' I was so upset I just bursted into tears, all I know is that gizmo died of old age she was 5years old.

When we got gizmo she seemed fine but then a few days went by and I came downstairs to go feed them and there was blood in the hutch and I found out she had 2 little baby piggys but unfortunately the boy guinea pig died but I have still got the girl she's called Toffee, she is about 2 or 3 years old but she still looks like a little baby. I just want to know if gizmo was in any pain? I keep saying to myself I should of been there whilst she was passing. Every morning toffee always looks around the hutch to find her mummy and she squeaks to see if her mummy will reply that makes me cry all the time, I did bury gizmo yesterday I put her in a little box and taped it up and put her in the ground:( I miss her so much I cant stop thinking about her. Gizmo is white and has red eyes and toffee is brown and white and looks like a baby R.I.P gizmo
 

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I'm really sorry for your loss. It does sound fairly normal and peaceful to me. My 6-year-old girl, Linney passed away a few months ago, also in my arms after a very short illness. She kept stretching out on my lap and would occasionally raise her nose a bit and take a big gasp of breath. I've worked in health care (though as a social worker and a transcriptionist and not as a medical professional), but I recognized it as Cheyne-Stokes respiration, as humans do them same thing as their bodies shut down. I don't believe it's painful. I sat there, just stroking her for an hour or more, and then I could feel her heartbeat and breathing just stop under my hand and she was gone. I hate that she had to go, but it gives me a lot of comfort that she was in the arms of someone who loved her and that she didn't appear to be in any undue pain or upset. It sounds like Pig passed peacefully as well... the dying process is just sometimes more physical than we expect it to be. ((HUGS)) to you, I'm so sorry.
 
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