Ear nibbling/biting and our new babies...

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Hey folks,

First post here (so please be gentle!) - and the reason we signed up here in the first place! We've got a strange situation with our new young sows, and can't really find anything helpful on the net - so figured it best to come here and ask those who know their stuff!

Firstly - the background. Kris has owned guinea pigs for about 4 years now -- Cake and Carrot were rescues, who always got on fairly well. When Carrot died (after anaesthetic problems for a small operation), we gave Cake time to grieve, then rescued Gino, a neutered boar. After a couple of weeks to get each other from separate cages, and time together in the run under our supervision, their cages went together, and both were really, really happy.

Unfortunately, just over a month ago, Gino passed away in his sleep, so Cake was alone again. Once more, we gave her some time to grieve, and then went to our local pets at home, and a week ago bought ourselves two gorgeous young sows -- Maia and Mudra. Again, we separated our two cages, but left them together, so that Maia and Mudra could settle in and get to know Cake through smell and chatting before introducing them properly.

After a few days, they're much much braver, running around and exploring their cage. Maia especially spends a fair bit of time running around, popcorning, and making lots and lots of happy noise. We've introduced them to Cake (who's about 4 years old, and easily twice their size), and they've got along well -- although Cake has asserted her dominence a couple of times, they've been really sweet together, and all three have made really happy noises and cuddled up together.

However, we've noticed both Maia and Mudra have quite badly chewed ears -- rather than being smooth, they're missing chunks here and there. Now, normally, that would seem to be a really bad sign, I'd've thought, but they happily cuddle up in their house together, and we've never heard any unhappy noises from their cage (which is in our living room with us, so we're with them most of the time). In fact, the only noises we ever hear are happy ones -- particularly when they're running around their cage and exploring.

So, we had assumed that their ears had been like that when we got them (maybe there'd been a cage bully when they were at pets at home)... but this evening, we noticed the ears seemed a little worse (more ragged and uneven) - just after they'd been in the run meeting Cake again. In fact, Maia actually had a little cut on her ear, and for the first time, there was some blood. But, while they'd been in the run, we hadn't seen any misbehaviour (Cake was having a sniff at Maia's bottom a couple of times, and got one indignant squeek from her, but otherwise, they were fine -- all three making gentle chirruping happy noises, exploring, and generally being really sweet) - so we're at a loss.

First - given that as best we can tell, they're all really happy together, is this as bad as we're worrying? Is it bad if our two little ones have been biting each others ears? They were housed together at Pets at Home, and always seem to get along really well, so it seems odd that they might be hurting each other when we're not around.

Second - should we separate Maia and Mudra? It seems pretty much certain that Cake isn't the cause of the bitten ears (although the one this evening could have been her, since they were all in together) - so if we separate them, should we move one in with her?

One thing that did occur having seen a few things on the net -- a few months ago we had Cake treated because she'd been itching and had picked up a mite problem from somewhere. That appears to have cleared up, but we did see that mites could make young piggies a bit stroppy/aggressive.

Really hope you can help us! As I say, the piggies generally seem really happy -- lots of popcorning from the little ones, they're eating all their food (in fact, we've never seen piggies eat so much, to be honest!), and other than for their ears, they seem really settled and to get on very well - so we don't know what to do!

Thanks loads in advance,

Jonti + Kris
 
Ear nibbling

Hello. I can only answer from my own experience, but my girls do ear nibbling through affection. One guinea pig, and it can be the dominant or lesser one, will grip the ear lightly between the teeth and pull downwards, pulling the ear through the teeth. The one who is having her ear pulled usually sits quite still for this, without moving.

Having said that, I have also noticed ragged ears in my pigs. Columbia (who is no longer with us) would sometimes do this ear pulling too hard and leave nicks in the edge of the ear, some quite large ones. So the other pigs would end up with 'raggy ear'. Interestingly, this made no difference to their relationships and seemed to be perfectly accepted by all piggies.

So I have seen it too, it has been a sign of affection that was a bit rough and no problems have arisen from it - although I did keep an eye on their ears in case of infection of course!

At the moment no piggie is doing rough ear pulling, only gentle. But one of my piggies, Columbine, now grooms the others - Carmina's sticking out tufts of hair just behind her ears get nibbled away! And Carmina is dominant!

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ear nibbling is an odd one for me too! George had chunks missing when I got him and tigers ears are perfect! every now and then I catch tiger giving george's ears a nibble and he just sits there and looks like it doesn't bother him (so mustn't hurt). Don't know if this is just a normal thing they do as other than once when george had a bit of blood on his ear I have never noticed any extra missing pieces and tigers are still perfect.

Maybe they just do it to be affectionate and occisionally go a bit to far??

All I know is that it seems odd!
 
Hey again!

Thanks alot for your replies -- that's really reassuring! Kris was in a bit of a panic when she saw blood (although she couldn't find more than a little nick!). We'll keep a close eye on them, still -- and if anyone else has extra feedback, we'd really appreciate it, but thankyou both so much for helping put our minds a bit at rest! :D
 
I can't offer a reason either, none of mine have done this tho' i do have one piggy who came with frilled ears :)

What you describe, the ears aside, sound like 3 happy piggies & i'd not separate your little ones. It'd not be unusual for an older piggy to put younger ones in their place but you would see/hear this as little ones are usually dramatic & excitable & wheek/squeak when no-ones near them :)) :))
 
My Disney has a few marks on her ears and I wondered if it was where Paris was walking over her as sometimes Paris decides she wants to lay where Disney is and treads all over her, I assumed it was claw marks.
 
Marley has frilled ears, which have to come from Ozzy cos they were perfect when i got them. I have never seen them do this but they are generally happy (apart from the occassional falling out) Ozzy's ears are fine and Marley is the dominant one so must be some sort of affection thing :-S they are strange little animals!
 
My sows bite and nuzzle each others ears. Sometimes one bites a little too hard and has drawn blood but the piggy geing groomed still sits for more. All my piggies have ragged ears so **** nothing to worry about unless one of them removes a large chunk. Arent baby piggies adorable. Non stop popcorning. It is a lovely time. My piggies are all older and although they still popcorn they dont quite reach the heights that they used to.Enjoy your piggies and sorry for your losses.

And welcome to the forum. It really is a wonderful place to obtain information about piggies.
 
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I really would not worry about the nibbled ears.

I have one piggy from pets at home and his ears are soooo chewed, its because when they are housed at Pets at home, they have far too many in a pen, so they get stressed with each other and there can be a bully who picks on every piggie aswell.

Unless you can see them fighting, I would not worry.
Would love to see pictures of them :))
 
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