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Fungal Outbreak?

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I just found one of the 6wk sows to have a very scaly and hard bit on her back and was wondering if it looked like a fungal infection? Strange that I did not notice it before as I handle them all pretty much everyday. I put some clotrimazole incase it's fungal to stop it getting worse. She squeeks and shakes in fear when I touch near the bottom of the patch :(

I just found from the vet finder on here that the Beaumont Sainsbury Animal Hospital is like 15m walking distance from me so I am probably gonna go get all of them checked out soon..hopefully it won't cost me an arm and a leg!

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Yes that does look fungal to me, glad you are getting them checked out. Ask for some pain relief too. I personally would treat with Imaverol both as dips and topically in between as it is effective and gentle enough to use on young pigs but obviously you need an official diagnosis from the vets.

http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Enilconazole-100mg_ml-100ml-Imaverol/productinfo/ENILCON/

Let me know if you need the Imaverol ratios for mixing.
 
Thanks for that. I have ordered it from Pet Drugs Online as it works out at least £5.48 cheaper than the link you gave and has free delivery and also 5% cashback on TopCashBack (£1.01). I am a bit of a bargain hunter :).

If you could please let me know the mixing ratio, I am guessing from your offer that it shouldn't be applied neat?
 
The dip is 10ml in 1.1 litres of water. Dip the whole pig. You can work in with a sponge which you throw away. Don't rinse off. Do this once a week. You can apply topically with a sponge or cotton wool daily using a ratio of 5ml Imaverol to 50ml of water.
 
Thanks. So basically you submerge them and work in the stuff like a shampoo, then just dry with a towel and hair dryer and that's it? I have 2 others that have a slight fungal issue on their ears (I have been using clotrimazole and it's really helping) so should I submerge their ears too or would you just use a topical application for that?
 
Ideally they should all be dipped if they are all in the same cage but you could do a topical treatment.
 
I got the stuff today. I notice that it says the shelf life is 3mths (and any diluted mixture u make is 6wks) which would be a waste if I never used it by then! Do u know if it's possible to extend this by putting it in the fridge?
 
The Imaverol do you mean?

I just make up enough for one dip and then discard the rest of what I have made up and keep the rest in the bottle. So I make up a dip of 10ml of Imaverol with 1.1 litres of water, dip the pig in the jug and work in with a throw away sponge and then for added benefit I tip some over them and then discard the rest.

For topical application the ratio is 5ml to 50ml and I make that up and keep it in the fridge or a dark cupboard for a couple of days and then make up more.

I have had Imaverol for longer than 3 months and not had a problem but I can check if needed. I think you will find you are getting through the bottle though with dips for 3 or 4 weeks and topical application too. Are you treating just one pig? as I would recommend dipping all.

Remember to patch test for 48 hours behind the ear.
 
Hi, "PiggyOinkOink", it looks awfully painful. So very sorry about your piggies doing poorly. Two of them, right? Did you take them to the vet? The fungal infection might be the tip of underlying problems? Would you consider sponge bathing them, instead of dipping? Working the topical solution on their coat with your fingers? I understand that dipping is the usual method. Why not make this less stressful for the piggies and possibly more effective? Did you know they can swim? Why not put them in your tub with a little water and rub a dub dub
Thanks,
Alexis
 
guineapig-al said:
Hi, "PiggyOinkOink", it looks awfully painful. So very sorry about your piggies doing poorly. Two of them, right? Did you take them to the vet? The fungal infection might be the tip of underlying problems? Would you consider sponge bathing them, instead of dipping? Working the topical solution on their coat with your fingers? I understand that dipping is the usual method. Why not make this less stressful for the piggies and possibly more effective? Did you know they can swim? Why not put them in your tub with a little water and rub a dub dub
Thanks,
Alexis
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Guinea pigs cannot swim. They paddle out of fear. A guinea pig should never be in enough water to swim unless it is for therapy.
 
I agree with Piggyfan on this, piggies are not natural swimmers, think of their design - Small legs, huge heavy bum that should always be supported. I would only ever put a piggy in water for therapy. I suppose you may find the odd piggy that is an exception form the rule but I certainly don't like the idea.
 
Hi, Lee and "Piggyfan" my idea is that instead of the dipping, the sponge and fingers are better than an impersonal full immersion. It might also be more effective and less stressful.
Thanks,
Alexis
 
Dipping is the most effective method, it is tried and tested, the entire pig needs to be covered in the solution for it to work. The topical application is for the days between dips. I have dipped my pigs numerous times, yes they don't like it but I would rather they go through a few seconds of that than treating them ineffectively so the condition doesn't ever clear up properly.
 
Hi, Helen, where is the piggy going to get treated with the Imaverol? Sinks are disgusting, no matter how much scrubbing, sink bottoms have lots of bacteria. What's wrong about a plastic pan where piggy can be treated, and the mess can be contained in the shower area?
Thanks,
Alexis
 
guineapig-al I'm not sure how old you are or what country you are based in, but be assured Helen is best placed to give advice as she has many years of experience & most of our members are UK based. It is better to leave advising newer members to the experts :)
 
When I treat with it I place them in a large jug which I stand in the bath. They are literally in and out of it in seconds and then wrapped in a warm towel. Treating the medical condition effectively is most important.
 
Hi, "Helen" would you consider that working the Imaverol manually, so that the roots of the fur, and the skin are fully coated, making sure nothing goes inside the delicate piggy ears, or gets in the eyes, and there's no mess, wouldn't that work better for piggy and caretaker? Most of us don't have your expertise. If I had to use the Imaverol, I would prefer to go slow, with as many second chances as I could.
Have a good day
Thanks,
Alexis
 
Hi, "Poppy'sMum" all of us here are helping each other care for our piggies. We all have the best intentions. No one here is fully qualified as an expert, only vets are experts, and we all know that.
Thanks
Alexis
 
helen105281 said:
Yes that does look fungal to me, glad you are getting them checked out. Ask for some pain relief too. I personally would treat with Imaverol both as dips and topically in between as it is effective and gentle enough to use on young pigs but obviously you need an official diagnosis from the vets.

http://www.hyperdrug.co.uk/Enilconazole-100mg_ml-100ml-Imaverol/productinfo/ENILCON/

Let me know if you need the Imaverol ratios for mixing.
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guineapig-al said:
Hi, "Poppy'sMum" all of us here are helping each other care for our piggies. We all have the best intentions. No one here is fully qualified as an expert, only vets are experts, and we all know that.
Thanks
Alexis
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:roll: I think Helen already mentioned the vets.
 
I have been trying the topical solution and whilst it has worked to the point where the skin is not really hard and crusty anymore, it has not completely cleared it. Also, the other two siblings (boy/girl) both have fungal stuff on one of their ears plus now their mother has a little patch actually right above her eye. I am having my bathroom done at the moment so was going to wait until it's done so I can dip them, so I now realise that dipping was probably the better option as the coverage would have been more and any unseen spores would have been eliminated also.

I was wondering what I could do about the one with the fungus above her eye? I have been applying a few drops with my finger to it as I did read that ivermectin does cause severe irritation in eyes for humans, so I imagine it's gonna do the same to them if I pour some on her eye? What do you suggest for her?
 

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@helen105281, just out of interest, where do the dip & topical ratios come from? They're not ones I've used before, I've always used a 1:50 ratio although that has been on cows, never used it on g pigs!
 
It is what I have been advised by my friend who runs the piggy clinics in Broxbourne. She tends to correspond directly with the company who make products so would think she researched it. I can find out if needed.
 
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