Good And Bad Breeders?

[Maisy and Poppy]

Hi,
I got my guinea pig from a lady who obviously cared for her piggies very much. She had rabbits, piggies and 2 cats ( kept separately ) her sows only had litters twice a year Spring and Winter and they where very well cared for and she did not rely on them for money - she had another job.
I got Poppy from a breeder who now I regret giving her money. She had two Rottweilers in a metal kind of pen, she bred, turkey's and rabbits as well. The piggies where obviously kept in tiny cages and she had thousands in a tiny shed. She also had horses. As I did not know much about piggies she showed me Poppy as she had nibbled ears and some people wanted piggies to show!

Are thier such things as good and bad breeders?

 

[Chief Guinea Pig]

I personally believe no one is a good person deliberately breeding under any circumstances.

 

[piggyfan]

I also believe there is no such thing as a good breeder. Anybody who cares about an animal would never put it through pregnancy and labour. It is cruel and selfish.

 

[LisaAli]

We have posted a link below to another thread , which is on the subject of showing.. once you read it it will go some way to explaining why most of us are against breeding and how they are linked..

https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk...looked-down-upon-on-here.118936/#post-1613034

 

[Maisy and Poppy]

Thank you. If I get more piggies I will definetly get them from a rescue!

 

[Veggies Galore]

Thank you. If I get more piggies I will definetly get them from a rescue!

Absolutely! I think another forum member said this 1st - but it is such an appropriate saying ...

Until there are none - rescue one.

 

[Lady Kelly]

I think the answer is both yes and no. In your example (and I don't think anyone will disagree here) the first breeder you mention is certainly better than the second, more caring, gives the pigs time to recover and recuperate from a pregnancy, gives them space and love. But on the other hand as piggyfan has pointed out, how caring is she that she will put the pigs through two pregnancies a year to sell their babies? Basically some breeders are better and nicer than others but that doesn't automatically make them good

 

[Piggly]

The purpose of being a breeder of any animal is to alter its genetics to suit whatever outcome the breeder wants. For guinea pigs the purpose is purely looks (in this country). Sat on my lap at the moment is a 'pure bred' sheltie, who are bred for their long smooth hair and short faces. To get this look a breeder will have had to breed several generations who were all very closely related (line breeding). By the time this practice got to the piggy in my lap now she had one single baby after being retrieved in a rescue situation, but the baby pig was still born - he had such a shortened face that it didn't completely form, and he couldn't survive.

Thats guinea pig breeding, no matter how anyone dresses it up.

 

[piggyfan]

The purpose of being a breeder of any animal is to alter its genetics to suit whatever outcome the breeder wants. For guinea pigs the purpose is purely looks (in this country). Sat on my lap at the moment is a 'pure bred' sheltie, who are bred for their long smooth hair and short faces. To get this look a breeder will have had to breed several generations who were all very closely related (line breeding). By the time this practice got to the piggy in my lap now she had one single baby after being retrieved in a rescue situation, but the baby pig was still born - he had such a shortened face that it didn't completely form, and he couldn't survive.

Thats guinea pig breeding, no matter how anyone dresses it up.

Oh that is so sad. Poor baby.

 

[Piggly]

Oh that is so sad. Poor baby.

It always makes me sad to think of her little baby. But she leads a good pregnancy free life with me now! So she is healthy (if a little grumpy!)

 

[piggyfan]

It always makes me sad to think of her little baby. But she leads a good pregnancy free life with me now! So she is healthy (if a little grumpy!)

It is wonderful she has you and is happy now.

 

[GloriousGuineaGirl]

As with all animals as @Piggly said... just messing around with genetics for a fat wallet.


Skinnies end up with sensitive skin, when ill more likely to drop weight even quicker than furries due to their metabolism being higher to keep warm...

Just 2 examples of breeders messing with genetics.


Skinnies were an accidental genetic mutation in a Montreal lab...then breeders saw pound/dollar signs above it.


So sad.

 

[Cavy Lover]

As other people have said I believe that there is no good breeders. I was inexperienced when I first got my pigs and got them from a pet shop. I think that if you want to get another piggy you should adopt, there are loads of pigs out there without a home. As a dog foster I know that animals are miserable when they get abandoned or neglected and they are delighted when they get new homes. Anyway why would you put a pig through such a hard time with pregnancy just to get some money in their pocket.

 

[The Furry Godmother]

Simple, no.
It's cruel and there's no need for it whatsoever, these people have no compassion or care for there animals and they can argue the toss all they like.
Let alone the conditions there bred in....
Uch.
I'll leave it there, leaving me in agreement with the rest.
There's no good breeders.