Guinea passing process

wenton5

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Hello all, please forgive, but please no endless condolences, as my heart can't heal on this sensitive topic. As much as I have tried, and sought answers, I just can't get closure, so here I go... I would love it if anyone experienced has been present to their senior piggy passing and what the process is... the love of my life passed when I was not here, in their favorite spot, at the age of 7. I think maybe if I could know what his last hours were like maybe I would have some better feeling. He saw his vet every 2 weeks and I would say I'm knowledgeable about fuzzies, any information would be much appreciated.
Thanks soo much,
Lara and Romeo berthiaume aka chooch.
💗
 
First off, I'm really sorry for your loss. It can be so hard to have to say goodbye. For what it's worth, I've been present for the passing of two of my elderly pigs and it was never a terrible experience for them... both of them had been lethargic during the day and were obviously very subdued.... both stretched out more as they had more labored breathing, stretched out laying on their tummies. One got a bit agitated shortly before passing (I've heard it called 'running for the bridge') as she attempted to get up and make a dash for it... then she settled down again and I just held them on my lap and stroked them and told them I loved them until I could feel that their hearts had stopped. :( With one of my pigs, two of my kids were present too, and although they were really upset that she passed away, as they both loved her, they both agreed that it was really peaceful and my son later told me that he was glad he was there to see that she didn't suffer at all. If this helps at all, I think a pig who passed at old age in their favorite spot likely went pretty peacefully. I've found my pigs seem to go pretty quickly when it's their time... they were all fine the pay prior, a bit lethargic the day of, and passed by nightfall without much of a struggle. Hope this helps a bit.
 
Freela, thank you for sharing, that helps alot and i really appreciate it... running for the bridge... transitioning to return home... my friend says lifetime pigs take the best of you with them.. I'm glad he did... Thank you soo much....
Lara and Romeo berthiaume aka Chooch
 
@Freela you are always so very kind to people - thank you for your post, you helped me immensely when we lost our first piggy and I will never forget your words.

Can't add to what Freela said. Just remember that we can't choose how or when they pass, but the measure of a life is not made up by the last moments but the love within it and your piggy was so very loved x
 
Hello all, please forgive, but please no endless condolences, as my heart can't heal on this sensitive topic. As much as I have tried, and sought answers, I just can't get closure, so here I go... I would love it if anyone experienced has been present to their senior piggy passing and what the process is... the love of my life passed when I was not here, in their favorite spot, at the age of 7. I think maybe if I could know what his last hours were like maybe I would have some better feeling. He saw his vet every 2 weeks and I would say I'm knowledgeable about fuzzies, any information would be much appreciated.
Thanks soo much,
Lara and Romeo berthiaume aka chooch.
💗

Hi and welcome

I am very sorry that you are struggling with the loss. Talking about it is the best healer; if you can, please google for pet bereavement services (some may even be free) in your area.
It is tough when you are left with questions you cannot answer and when you are dealing with the inevitable feelings of failure and guilt; in your case of not being there with your boy.

Roughly about half of the nearly 40 piggies I have said goodbye to have died at home or I was present for the euthanasia; especially in the early years where kinder procedures were not yet in use. I've also sat with dying family members.
It is a much more physical process than we expect with our sanitised view of 'drifting gently away in one's sleep' as the body breaks down. How quickly and in which order depends on how fit and healthy the various vital organs are and in which order they go after the first major one gives up. It can be rather upset if you witness it without being able to brace for it; especially if it is the first time you are confronted with it.
The process itself can be very quick, especially in a frail and/or older piggy like yours and be over in a less than an hour but it can last a day or even longer and not be as gentle; that is when I take mine to be put to sleep at the vet's to prevent any unnecessary suffering.

If your piggy was still in their hut and lying in a fairly normal pose, then it is most likely that their passing was pretty gentle and quick (as when you left him he was still behaving normally) and that he has basically more or less drifted away after a fairly short phase of feeling somewhat unwell. ;)

You may find these links here helpful:
Human Bereavement: Grieving, Coping and Support Links for Guinea Pig Owners and Their Children

The last chapter of the link below deals with advice on how you can spot whether your piggy is dying and what you can do for it during that time in case you think that it would help you to ease your mind. Guinea pigs tend to remove themselves from their group if they are feeling badly; it serves as a instinctive protection for the group to reduce the risk of passing on a transmittable illness or to attract predators.
Emergency, Crisis and Bridging Care until a Vet Appointment

I have found that it is often easier on the guinea pigs that have removed themselves from company (not the ones whose companions are attending closely) to just make them as comfortable as possible and check on them regularly; I hold them only when they are in distress while arranging an emergency vet trip or while on the way to a vet.
It has now happened several times that a piggy has passed away the moment I set down the cosy to go the toilet for overdue business and in one case, the moment I set down the cosy on a chair in a vet's waiting room in order to get some more piggies out of the car for their scheduled appointments - Tesni had gone into organ failure the evening before her scheduled appointment at a specialist but the last hour was not quite easy on her so she had to travel with me on my on lap while my husband drove the car. I can't help feeling that holding a piggy can sometimes make it more difficult for it to depart and it is easier for it to let go when alone.

On the whole, death is no longer something I am afraid of. It is a natural process of change that can be uncomfortable for shorter periods but that in many cases is fairly straight forward. During the worst bit right at the end when oxygen deprivation hits, your consciousness is no longer closely attached to the body as the brain is equally affected. It is more upsetting to watch. I am glad for any piggy that can pass away here in their familiar home and surroundings, the way yours did.

I hope that that helps you?
 
@wenton5 I am so sorry for your loss, you did all you can had a happy times with your piggy, I think all death is a release in the end..I don't think the piggies struggle. We had just lost one of our youngsters, Thursday 11th, and she was only about 5 months old, she had underlying issues since we got her suspected URI, but became the happiest wee one ever, even after months of antibiotics, metacalm and vet visits, I swear I had never met a companion animal that was so friendly and trusting, she is greatly missed, but we now have to focus on her friend that was left behind, that is what is keeping me going tbh, the other piggies happiness, although I have had a good bawl today at points still, it's a long process..

I hope you feel at peace soon, as do I with myself..

Lots of love and hugs to you xx
 
@wenton5 I am so sorry for your loss, you did all you can had a happy times with your piggy, I think all death is a release in the end..I don't think the piggies struggle. We had just lost one of our youngsters, Thursday 11th, and she was only about 5 months old, she had underlying issues since we got her suspected URI, but became the happiest wee one ever, even after months of antibiotics, metacalm and vet visits, I swear I had never met a companion animal that was so friendly and trusting, she is greatly missed, but we now have to focus on her friend that was left behind, that is what is keeping me going tbh, the other piggies happiness, although I have had a good bawl today at points still, it's a long process..

I hope you feel at peace soon, as do I with myself..

Lots of love and hugs to you xx
I am sorry for your loss x
 
@Freela you are always so very kind to people - thank you for your post, you helped me immensely when we lost our first piggy and I will never forget your words.

Can't add to what Freela said. Just remember that we can't choose how or when they pass, but the measure of a life is not made up by the last moments but the love within it and your piggy was so very loved x
 
I am sorry for your loss x
Thank you soo much, this is all very helpful, agree with everything. He was the most amazing being ever, health issues his entire life, but was incredible to the end, just wish I had been there to be with him. Love love love, he is my guru for sure. Lara and Romeo berthiaume aka Chooch
 
Thank you soo much, this is all very helpful, agree with everything. He was the most amazing being ever, health issues his entire life, but was incredible to the end, just wish I had been there to be with him. Love love love, he is my guru for sure. Lara and Romeo berthiaume aka Chooch

It is always hard when you cannot be there; but he knew that he was loved and well cared for. Being able to pass away in his familiar home must have been a comfort to him.
 
I sure hope it was peaceful... thank you soo much wiebke.

If it helps - I came home from a short holiday in May (the first in two years) to find that one of my younger ones had unexpectedly died between the carer's last visit and our arrival; the process of the rigor mortis proved the timing. It was quite a shock. I still don't know what she died of and how easy her passing was. She was busy tucking into her food when the carer was there, who is very conscientious in checking on all piggies coming out for food. Helygen had some mild bloating but definitely not enough to count as the killer, rather as a side effect of whatever caused her death. It is just one of those things that I will never know and cannot do anything about... :(

I try to see my piggies as a loan from God; I don't know how long I will have them and what they ultimately die from; all I can do is give them a happy piggy life and cherish my time with them as short or as long as I am given. When their time has come, I always hope that it is easy on them; if not, then I will do my best keep any suffering to a minimum and have them euthanised as an emergency.

But I always feel more upset when they die at a younger age and try to cherish those that live as long a life as yours right at the upper end of the average life span - only that after such a long time you generally miss them more and it is harder to get used to them no longer being there... as you know yourself!

Sadly I can't go back and make things undone, but I can pay forward to give another piggy their own happy life. When you have the ability to love as deeply as you do, you do not simply lose it. It is like a river that keeps flowing on. Grieving is simply the other side of our love; it is the shade that lets our love shine and makes us emotionally more understanding and sensitive to the plight of others.

Anyway, I hope that the grieving guide will help you understand the process better and show you ways on how to cope with your loss; what works for you is something you will have to find yourself; we are all different!
But your beloved ones will never leave you entirely. They are part of your life and your life story, and they have a treasured forever place in your heart and your precious memory. However many come afterwards, each bond and each love is unique and doesn't take away from any other.

Take your time to grieve; it is not a process you can hurry on. Your feelings clearly show how much you still love; and in that you have not failed your boy!
 
Beautiful, yes, him and I are soulmates, way too long a story about him and i, he just is AMAZING. He came back for about 30 seconds last January ( when he passed, to tell me he loved me but that he needed to go). He had almost every illness you could imagine and outlived 8 piggies anyway, even our specialist exotics vet was amazed. I don't think he will chose matter right now, but stay in the energy field, free. He was warm when I got home, soft and warm... anyway, I appreciate all of you. Transitioning to return home, he was nothing but love.....
 
Beautiful, yes, him and I are soulmates, way too long a story about him and i, he just is AMAZING. He came back for about 30 seconds last January ( when he passed, to tell me he loved me but that he needed to go). He had almost every illness you could imagine and outlived 8 piggies anyway, even our specialist exotics vet was amazed. I don't think he will chose matter right now, but stay in the energy field, free. He was warm when I got home, soft and warm... anyway, I appreciate all of you. Transitioning to return home, he was nothing but love.....

You are welcome to post a tribute to him in our Rainbow Bridge section and tell his story there with pictures, if you wish. The section is there for any members that would like to make use of it. He sounds like a very special piggy indeed! ;)
 
I like the idea of transitioning..I am a right out atheist, the word transitioning fills me with comfort, and love makes everyone grow! Aww we are doing well mate, we loved and lost.. you have a garden of memories to tend to wenton5..x
 
You guys are great, the only thing I can say is that he was sheer will and love, love, love, love... He taught me many things about being a proper guardian, most importantly, SHOW UP, love, appreciate and enjoy your role as guardian, it's a priviledge.... thanks everyone, Lara and Romeo berthiaume aka Chooch
 
You guys are great, the only thing I can say is that he was sheer will and love, love, love, love... He taught me many things about being a proper guardian, most importantly, SHOW UP, love, appreciate and enjoy your role as guardian, it's a priviledge.... thanks everyone, Lara and Romeo berthiaume aka Chooch

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Wiebke, I just saw your long post, thank You! Yes, again, he had a long history of illnesses, and I did observe him slowing down (1 day before, we were VERY close with our vet)slowing down for him is like a normal pig!), he was in his favorite spot, always out in the open, on his side, a little curled up, like he had gone to sleep, no rigor, he was warm when I got home, the lay outline of the hay looked like he had been laying there awhile. I knew on my way home something was up as he wasn't talking to me when I talked to him, and earlier when I did, he didn't want to talk much and his energy was a little less. Thank you again, very very very very helpful.
 
Wiebke, I just saw your long post, thank You! Yes, again, he had a long history of illnesses, and I did observe him slowing down (1 day before, we were VERY close with our vet)slowing down for him is like a normal pig!), he was in his favorite spot, always out in the open, on his side, a little curled up, like he had gone to sleep, no rigor, he was warm when I got home, the lay outline of the hay looked like he had been laying there awhile. I knew on my way home something was up as he wasn't talking to me when I talked to him, and earlier when I did, he didn't want to talk much and his energy was a little less. Thank you again, very very very very helpful.

He'd obviously passed away not long before came home; but it sounds like a peaceful passing. It is likely that his heart has simply given out from my own experiences. ;)
 
I know you said you didn’t want lots of condolences so I’ve just been following this thread.
You’ve had some lovely replies and I hope they help you.
Just wanted to say that you are held in my heart as you grieve
 
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