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Jacob Lewis

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Hey first time poster here could really use some advice had 2 gp Einstein and Chucky 8 weeks old had them for 1 week we decide to get another to young ones salt and pepper .

Problem I'm having is Chucky will not stop chasing and lunging and salt so far nothing is happening because salt just keeps running away as fast as possible.

If I remove Chucky the other 3 get on fine but I don't get why salt is really quiet timid and doesn't do anything to provoke it just feels like Chucky is bullying him what's the best course of action at this stage.
At first I figured boys will be boys they need to establish Dominance but salt is just getting more and more with drawn what should we do.

Ps I'm going into work now but I have a double story cage and a 1m X 1m run that they can go in and out of but salt and pepper haven't got used to using the ramps yet so they are just staying in the run ATM.. tnx for any responses
 
Jacob Lewis said:
Hey first time poster here could really use some advice had 2 gp Einstein and Chucky 8 weeks old had them for 1 week we decide to get another to young ones salt and pepper .

Problem I'm having is Chucky will not stop chasing and lunging and salt so far nothing is happening because salt just keeps running away as fast as possible.

If I remove Chucky the other 3 get on fine but I don't get why salt is really quiet timid and doesn't do anything to provoke it just feels like Chucky is bullying him what's the best course of action at this stage.
At first I figured boys will be boys they need to establish Dominance but salt is just getting more and more with drawn what should we do.

Ps I'm going into work now but I have a double story cage and a 1m X 1m run that they can go in and out of but salt and pepper haven't got used to using the ramps yet so they are just staying in the run ATM.. tnx for any responses
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Please be aware that boar quartets are about as unstable as they come with a near 100% fall-out rate unless you have a disabled/carer combo or old age pensioners where the testosterone as fizzled out.

Please split your boys into two hopefully stable pairs and leave it at that! And please take the time to read our guides.
Most of the time you end up with a pair and two single boars with a quartet, but we have had cases where none of the four baby boars would go back with each other again once they hit the teenage months. :(
Illustrated Bonding / Dominance Behaviours And Dynamics
Boars: Bullying, Fighting, Fall-outs And What Next?
 
I'm afraid that a boar quartet is very unlikely to work long term but is likely to cause fighting and potentially injuries. A sensible long term solution is, as @Wiebke has said to keep them as 2 separate pairs of boars.
Please separate them and read all our helpful guides.
 
Ok so if I'm separating them couple of questions

1. Will they still benefit from talking to each other so should I keep the cages together.

2.should I try and reintroduce at some point in the future

3.i get the 4 don't work but will the pairs be ok ?

4. Supervised play time together worth trying or a no no
 
A good place to start is here:

Boars: Bullying, Fighting, Fall-outs And What Next?

Pairs should work, but please be aware that space, space, and even more space is still key, particularly for boars.

Here is a cage size guide that should help:

Cage Size Guide

And as for 'playtime' together after separation this is an absolute no-no.
Boars don't do playtime - every time they are together they restart the bonding/dominance process which is stressful and handwork.

I also have a group of 4 piggies (mixed sex - not all boars) who I envisioned living together, but they chose otherwise.
Now I treat them as 2 completely separate pairs and it works very well (even if not quite as I hoped/envisioned!).
 
Hi, I have several pairs of boys

I would keep the cages apart as otherwise they will wind each other up, which could then result in them falling out with their cage mate too and be of no benefit.

I wouldn't try reintroduction, boars don't live in groups like sows can and will just regard each other as rivals.

The pairs should be ok, so long as the experience of all being together hasn't unsettled them too much. Having as much space as possible for each pair will help.

Definitely no playtime together. Also don't put one pair in an area to play, where the other pair have just been as it will smell of them and possible trigger aggression.

Hope it all works out for you and your little guys and oh, Welcome to the forum:)
 
Thanks for everyone ones help so far I have separated the 2 pairs but one is showing signs off copies behaviour hope this doesn't persist anyway I at the moment have a double story cage 100cmx50cm X2 for pair one and a 105cm x105cm run that I built for the 2nd pair problem I have now is separating the cage don't have a huge amount of space for now I've devided up space by putting a towel between to block them seeing eachother.
So is that ok if not how far apart should I put them does it have to be separate rooms ? Or is it fine if they can still hear eachother thanks again for any responses
 
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