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How much calcium deposit is normal in pee?

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Dusty_bugs

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Hey y'all,
I've been absent for a while, must apologise! Hope nothing too scary as been happening out there with you guys! I've had a manic xmas and changed job role temporarily this month so things have been a bit haywire.

As for Leeland and Vincent, they're continuing to confuse me daily!

Leeland's foot is now off the fucidin but we still give twice daily surgical scrub soaks for 2 mins. So far the swelling has been kept at bay. But I am concerned about her apparent bloat and calcerific pee. I've cut out cabbage/kale (for the gas) and the meadow hay (for the calcium) she was on. I'm not sure the meadow hay was a problem for calcium but couldnt be sure. The litle man had no trouble with it. We're now back to the hay she has spent most her life on p@h large bundles of whatever looks the least straw like.
Her pee is plentiful so I'm not worried she isn't drinking but months ago when she was ill she couldn't drink due to physical issues in her mouth so all her liquids came from food and syringe. Has this had a long lasting damaging effect? All she is on now is carrot, tomato, apple, and cucumber regularly. Maybe 4 times a week she will receive either the odd slither of banana as a tiny treat, a small slice of watermelon (if I have any in), an orange segment, half a small bell pepper I've been growing. I used to give romaine lettuce daily until Vincent started developing soft poos so I've stopped that in both and all other soggy veg. Hay is limitless and they both eat it constantly and so are burgess blackcurrant oregano crunchies - though I put a small bit in at a time to keep it fresh. They get a few pinches of p@h guinea muesli and a sprinkling of forage mix in the hay two or three times a week.

I can't think how she's still having so much bloatyness and why her pee is so chalky (on drying) I've rubbed it and thankfully it is soft not gritty. She used to squeek before peeing and pooing (mostly when held for her treatments). I thought this was her begging to be put down so she didnt pee all over herself. Could it have been pain? I took her to Alan my vet for a good feel and he said it was mostly bloat - infacol to treat. I guess it's gone down a bit but she still feels pretty solid. If I try to massage she gets very uncomfortable, and she's pretty tolerant to my constant poking and bothering.

Anyone got any ideas how to help reduce this bloat, is there something obvious I'm doing wrong?
 
I should note I've tried them on timmothy hay and it comes out either straw like or in whoppingly expensive bundles that wont last 4 or 5 days so is bad economy. Anyone know where I can find timmothy hay at a good rate? Also, I have about 17 kilos of meadow hay at home! Is this still safe to feed to either of them if I'm trying to cut down calcium?!
 
Poor Leeland. As far as I am aware as long as it's not gritty Guinea pig wee can often be white and chalky when dried. This is certainly the case with Megan's urine when it drys on her fleece.
Has she had a recent xray or ultrasound to look at the bladder, rule out stones or grit etc...?

As regards to bloat, I would recomend keeping a food diary, Treacy suffers from bloaty episodes and through careful diet control we have eliminated problem foods and massively reduced these occurances, we also have a supply of metachlopromide on advice of our vet in for when she has a bloaty episode so we can get everything moving again, combined with massages.
 
Wow, how much is the recommended dose - that stuff seems to pack some pow! I'll suggest to Alan next time I see him.
 
As long as they are eating Gut stims will help push everything through. Treacy when her system slows down and she gets bloaty is on 0.3ml twice a day of emeprid (metoclopramide) She has been x-rayed several times to rule out blockages during her first few episodes and we now hopefully know all her trigger veggies.
 
As long as they are eating Gut stims will help push everything through. Treacy when her system slows down and she gets bloaty is on 0.3ml twice a day of emeprid (metoclopramide) She has been x-rayed several times to rule out blockages during her first few episodes and we now hopefully know all her trigger veggies.

would you say the veggies that trigger bloat off are the same with most piggies, which trigger the biggest reaction then?
 
I should note I've tried them on timmothy hay and it comes out either straw like or in whoppingly expensive bundles that wont last 4 or 5 days so is bad economy. Anyone know where I can find timmothy hay at a good rate? Also, I have about 17 kilos of meadow hay at home! Is this still safe to feed to either of them if I'm trying to cut down calcium?!

I get the "Alfalfa King" (Don't worry that's just the name of the brand!) Timothy Hay from Pets at Home, it's a compressed bag at £7.99 it isn't cheap but lasts my 3 around 2-3 weeks a bag with a constant supply. Timothy hay is low calcium I believe.

Sorry she is bloaty, my piggy just recovered from gut stasis (The next horrible step up from bloat) & I had Emeprid & Zantac to give twice a day. I also syringe fed her, that is important to keep their guts moving, so I would syringe feed your piggy too. I also bought a car seat massage mat that I would sit on my lap with her on it whilst syringe feeding her & mine loved it, it does help shift the gas from their tummies.

Keep a close eye on her weight, weigh her every day & also you could get some Fibreplex, that is a good thing for when they get bloaty episodes :)
 
would you say the veggies that trigger bloat off are the same with most piggies, which trigger the biggest reaction then?

Gassy veggies tend to be culprits, cabbage, broccoli, Cauliflower, spring greens and sprouts... Treacle is affected also by green beans and oddly coriander.
 
hi guys, thanks for the advice. It's been nearly 2 weeks and she's down to timmorthy hay, excel burgess nuggets, carrot, apple, cucumber, the odd grape half, a mouth full of banana and romaine lettuce and still the bloaty tummy :/ she's been on infacol 2mls with brekky and dinner. Her guts are moving fine (plenty of poops!) and she farts on me regularly but her tummy is still hard. I thought maybe something like growths but when the vet tapped her tummy you could hear a spacey boom (sounded like gas). I think another trip might be in order :/ Darn she has expensive farts!
 
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