In memory of Odie…is this a common guinea pig death?

KatieM

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Odie, my almost 6 year old pig, died on December 21st. This was my very first time experiencing a piggy death, or watching any of my pets die in such a way. While it was sudden, it wasn’t 100% unexpected. He was given to me by a friend, immediately I recognized that his coat was very course and he was skinny (this was in September). I took him and his brother to the vet, they agreed he was unwell and very skinny but with normal appetite and behavior I decided it would be best to just let him live his life. The morning of the 21st I walked in to give them their water and bam he fell over and had a 1min 30second full body seizure. Completely horrible to watch I felt so helpless. He came out of it and slowly over the next hour was able to get his feet underneath him and ate some lettuce. I called his previous owners over to say goodbye and then took him to the vet. Since he was alert and coming to I asked to have a vet look at him first before putting him to sleep, although I assumed it would be best to put him to sleep. Since it was a Saturday it was an hour long wait, about 45min in he had another seizure. This time he didn’t come out of it, he was in a crate just flopping around and “running” (which I have now read is a sign of imminent death in pigs, I had no idea). Panicked I tried to pick him up and he was freaking out when my hand got near, flopping everywhere. Eventually I was able to pick him up and that’s when he began “screaming” it was like silent wheeks opening and shutting his mouth. I pet him softly and whispered to him, slowly realizing this was him dying. Not long after he died, white goo came out of his eyes.

I’m still in the vets office room completely alone, I get up and open the door to tell them he died. They are of course very apologetic and reassuring me it was his time to go and what not.

But I have struggled the last few days over the guilt in the way it went down. Never would I want one of my animals to pass in that way, in pain and confused and in and out of seizures. If I could go back I would have insisted they either be faster in starting the euthanasia process (while he was still calm and alert) or I wouldn’t have brought him in at all, let him be with his brother in his home….if I was going to have to watch the process anyways.

The moments of his death are engrained in my mind, I didn’t sleep for a few days. I only had him for a short time but he was very loved. I really do hope he was unaware of what was happening and didn’t feel too much pain, the guilt eats me away.

Thank you for letting me share his story, he was more than his death of course but it was not the end I ever wanted for him and not the end I ever want to repeat with one of my pigs.
 

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I’m so sorry you lost Odie. You noticed he was poorly and took him to the vets. You definitely did all that you could. Sometimes their passing isn’t the peaceful process we would like. Once they are “running” my vet told me they are unaware of their surroundings and so are not in any pain. You were with him at the end and he was surrounded by your love.

Please don’t feel guilty. You did all you could. ❤️
 
I’m so sorry you lost Odie. You noticed he was poorly and took him to the vets. You definitely did all that you could. Sometimes their passing isn’t the peaceful process we would like. Once they are “running” my vet told me they are unaware of their surroundings and so are not in any pain. You were with him at the end and he was surrounded by your love.

Please don’t feel guilty. You did all you could. ❤️
Thank you so much, that means a lot. All the super scary stuff to me happened after the running, it makes me feel so much better that he wasn’t aware of that. I tried super hard to stay very calm for him so that he wouldn’t be so scared but it’s definitely hard!

You are totally correct, I did take him in and did what felt right in the moment ❤️ I am very glad he’s no longer sick!

He was funny, in the mornings while everyone else was wheeking for breakfast he’d get on his top toes and chew the top bar of the cage until he had food in his mouth…I’m glad I gave him lettuce that day so he could go on happy!
 
HUGS
I'm so sorry that you were alone and without vet help. It must've been horrible to watch Odie having a seizure, and then again later, without being able to help him or alleviate it. I wish the vet had grasped the situation and offered to have a look at him sooner, being an emergency as it were.

I don't have guineas any more, but when I did I often felt guilty about something to do with their deaths. Please know that even if we feel guilty, it doesn't mean we are guilty. Hindsight knows things that foresight can't.

You only had him a short time but as you say he was very loved! You even gave him a Hallowe'en costume (wasp? bee?). So cute! While he was dying, you petted him and whispered to him - you were there for him.
 
I'm so sorry for your loss. The "screaming" is called agonal breathing, it is the brains last ditch attempt to get oxygen to the brain when the body is almost completely shut down. Rest assured while it looks awful, they are completely unaware at this point, and well past the point of return. This process is also totally normal. I've lost a good number of piggies and all the ones who weren't ancient or weak enough to just close their eyes and slip away almost instantly, go through this exact shutting down process.

I went through the same thing when I lost the last of my original 16 piggies, seeing her pass was awful, I did not know at the time it was normal and she was unaware, I took a 3 year break from keeping pigs after this. I've since held almost every single one of my current ones as they've passed and while it's never got easier to witness, it has become obvious over time that they're no longer "in there" while it's happening.

I hope that is of some comfort, please don't feel guilty. You really did everything you could.
 
HUGS
I'm so sorry that you were alone and without vet help. It must've been horrible to watch Odie having a seizure, and then again later, without being able to help him or alleviate it. I wish the vet had grasped the situation and offered to have a look at him sooner, being an emergency as it were.

I don't have guineas any more, but when I did I often felt guilty about something to do with their deaths. Please know that even if we feel guilty, it doesn't mean we are guilty. Hindsight knows things that foresight can't.

You only had him a short time but as you say he was very loved! You even gave him a Hallowe'en costume (wasp? bee?). So cute! While he was dying, you petted him and whispered to him - you were there for him.
Thank you. I am switching vets, they had another dog emergency come in after us but since Odie appeared more stable they took that patient first. They are mainly a dog/cat vet with exotics on the side…I am going to take the rest of my piggies to a fully exotic vet because of this situation ❤️

I actually had professional photos done of him and his brother! It was around Halloween and he was a little bee! I knew he was old so I knew I’d want the photos later on…and I cherish them!

Hindsight really is 20/20, I know it wasn’t my fault at all…just not a good experience to endure. Thank you so much.
 
So very sorry for your loss.
Your love for Odie radiates through your post.
You did everything possible for him
Be gentle with yourself as you grieve
 
I'm so sorry for your loss. The "screaming" is called agonal breathing, it is the brains last ditch attempt to get oxygen to the brain when the body is almost completely shut down. Rest assured while it looks awful, they are completely unaware at this point, and well past the point of return. This process is also totally normal. I've lost a good number of piggies and all the ones who weren't ancient or weak enough to just close their eyes and slip away almost instantly, go through this exact shutting down process.

I went through the same thing when I lost the last of my original 16 piggies, seeing her pass was awful, I did not know at the time it was normal and she was unaware, I took a 3 year break from keeping pigs after this. I've since held almost every single one of my current ones as they've passed and while it's never got easier to witness, it has become obvious over time that they're no longer "in there" while it's happening.

I hope that is of some comfort, please don't feel guilty. You really did everything you could.
Thank you, that does make me feel so much better. The screaming
I'm so sorry for your loss. The "screaming" is called agonal breathing, it is the brains last ditch attempt to get oxygen to the brain when the body is almost completely shut down. Rest assured while it looks awful, they are completely unaware at this point, and well past the point of return. This process is also totally normal. I've lost a good number of piggies and all the ones who weren't ancient or weak enough to just close their eyes and slip away almost instantly, go through this exact shutting down process.

I went through the same thing when I lost the last of my original 16 piggies, seeing her pass was awful, I did not know at the time it was normal and she was unaware, I took a 3 year break from keeping pigs after this. I've since held almost every single one of my current ones as they've passed and while it's never got easier to witness, it has become obvious over time that they're no longer "in there" while it's happening.

I hope that is of some comfort, please don't feel guilty. You really did everything you could.
Thank you, knowing about the breathing makes me feel so much better. That part was pretty terrifying when you don’t know what’s happening, I’m so happy he wasn’t in pain or aware by then!
I’m happy that despite being very cold and having multiple seizures he went down with a fight, that was exactly his personality! Fiesty, fiesty!

I had 3 piggies at home who needed me, it was hard to take care of them initially but in the end they are healing my heart!
 
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