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My Guinea died

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KingBoris&HisFollowers said:
i may be wrong in saying this but she just lost her guinea pig and definantly needs time to greive,it doesnt sound like the OP is just letting it go,everybody needs time,you dont sound very supportive to the OP for what she has been through,this is a difficult time for them and you should be more sympathetic
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I'm sorry that I sound like that. However, if it was me, I would need time, but those people would not have been payed or have left my house.... it is hard. But we have to think about how many other animals could go through this. I am very upset for Babs, I know that may not show, but I know that this is horrific, absoloutely horrendous and horrible - but I stand by that something has to be done. I'm here for you if you need me to post an ad or anything, Babs. I just think more action should be taken now, rather than they think they are getting away with it, and got the money.
 
I am not letting them away with anything and I am certainly not moving on, I can barely see through my eyes from crying and trying to think straight is proving very difficult. Everything happened so quickly, one minute I was looking forward to the return of my 2 piggies then I was told one was dead and a story that was so unbelievable that I even managed to nearly convince myself that they were telling the truth, my head went in a spin and my whole thought process went into overdrive, I had people telling me this and that (here at home) and people trying to tell me what to do, I got so confused that I posted here and even when posting I was nearly convinced that one of my pigs was female and I was just too thick to not realise it after 2.5 years. I am all over the place trying to console a 6 year old and deal with my own feelings and try work out what I do next, I have numerous phone calls this morning and sent lots of emails and I am hitting a brick wall, I have no evidence that my pig was male and yes another thing to blame myself for, I should have had proof. I am sorry if I am not sounding compassionate towards other smallies and I don't want these people to do what they did to my pig to other animals but unfortunately I have to be a little selfish right this moment and try to sort my own feelings out before worrying about other people and their animals, in time I will certainly delve into this much deeper but for the moment (today, tomorrow) I have to deal with a very emotional household and a very upset guinea that is still with us. It's just so hard imagining what happened to Bart and if he was killed, if he did die accidentally, if he was in fact a girl and did die giving birth and whether he is buried or flung somewhere been chomped on by wild animals. I know I have no one else to blame only myself and it has taught me a valuable lesson however believe when I say I have not 'Just moved on'.
 
I can't imagine how you are feeling right now - I just want to say that I am thinking of you & your family at this awful time xx
 
Babs30 said:
I am not letting them away with anything and I am certainly not moving on, I can barely see through my eyes from crying and trying to think straight is proving very difficult. Everything happened so quickly, one minute I was looking forward to the return of my 2 piggies then I was told one was dead and a story that was so unbelievable that I even managed to nearly convince myself that they were telling the truth, my head went in a spin and my whole thought process went into overdrive, I had people telling me this and that (here at home) and people trying to tell me what to do, I got so confused that I posted here and even when posting I was nearly convinced that one of my pigs was female and I was just too thick to not realise it after 2.5 years. I am all over the place trying to console a 6 year old and deal with my own feelings and try work out what I do next, I have numerous phone calls this morning and sent lots of emails and I am hitting a brick wall, I have no evidence that my pig was male and yes another thing to blame myself for, I should have had proof. I am sorry if I am not sounding compassionate towards other smallies and I don't want these people to do what they did to my pig to other animals but unfortunately I have to be a little selfish right this moment and try to sort my own feelings out before worrying about other people and their animals, in time I will certainly delve into this much deeper but for the moment (today, tomorrow) I have to deal with a very emotional household and a very upset guinea that is still with us. It's just so hard imagining what happened to Bart and if he was killed, if he did die accidentally, if he was in fact a girl and did die giving birth and whether he is buried or flung somewhere been chomped on by wild animals. I know I have no one else to blame only myself and it has taught me a valuable lesson however believe when I say I have not 'Just moved on'.
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you have every right to be upset,you dont have to fix all this today,as long as you do it then you have helped animals,you sound like you have alot to deal with right now any noone is judging you,take all the time you need,Big hugs to you and the family xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
Babs30 said:
I am not letting them away with anything and I am certainly not moving on, I can barely see through my eyes from crying and trying to think straight is proving very difficult. Everything happened so quickly, one minute I was looking forward to the return of my 2 piggies then I was told one was dead and a story that was so unbelievable that I even managed to nearly convince myself that they were telling the truth, my head went in a spin and my whole thought process went into overdrive, I had people telling me this and that (here at home) and people trying to tell me what to do, I got so confused that I posted here and even when posting I was nearly convinced that one of my pigs was female and I was just too thick to not realise it after 2.5 years. I am all over the place trying to console a 6 year old and deal with my own feelings and try work out what I do next, I have numerous phone calls this morning and sent lots of emails and I am hitting a brick wall, I have no evidence that my pig was male and yes another thing to blame myself for, I should have had proof. I am sorry if I am not sounding compassionate towards other smallies and I don't want these people to do what they did to my pig to other animals but unfortunately I have to be a little selfish right this moment and try to sort my own feelings out before worrying about other people and their animals, in time I will certainly delve into this much deeper but for the moment (today, tomorrow) I have to deal with a very emotional household and a very upset guinea that is still with us. It's just so hard imagining what happened to Bart and if he was killed, if he did die accidentally, if he was in fact a girl and did die giving birth and whether he is buried or flung somewhere been chomped on by wild animals. I know I have no one else to blame only myself and it has taught me a valuable lesson however believe when I say I have not 'Just moved on'.
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Hi Babs

I agree wholeheartedly with what others have said regarding getting answers, but you must do this in your own time. As you say, you have more important things to worry about right now.

When we lost Scampy we had a million things going on in our brain as to whether we did anything wrong etc., and the same when Blaze and Oscar died but it's only once you can get your head in order that you can think more rationally.

Just please, as and when you find out anything further, let us know as this story has upset a lot of people on here and we'd all like to find out exactly what happened to poor Bart. :(

Martin
 
You are already doing things, so don't push yourself too hard! Give yourself time to clear your head and be there for your son and Snowy. You can't find solutions, if you are in a state.

And don't blame yourself too badly - conmen have to be convincing at first, or they couldn't work! You just had cosmical bad luck!

Why don't you go out in the garden or into the countryside and pick flowers for Bart and create a little memorial place for him? Let your son help you. While you may be crying again, it is something creative and soothing and may help you settle down a bit.
 
I am so so sorry that this has happened to you and that you have know answers. I am lost for words and really do not know what to say :( These people are so evil for what they have done to you. Please do not blame yourself as I believe you were just too trusting which I am guilty of doing myself. (((hugs))) to you and to Snowy xxxxxxxx
 
I have received an email from the lady who minded them, here it is :



I understand completely, there is every possibility that we made a mistake in sexing Bart. When I felt Bart down I definitely did feel a suspicious lump in the lower abdomen of him that felt around the size of a baby guinea pig. We didn't accuse the vet of being wrong, there's every possibility that we were wrong - it was just very odd and the way he was lying and everything was what you'd have expected from a guinea pig trying to give birth.

Chris has stated that he is not willing to head out to the fields at the moment to go and dig Bart up as it has rained since and everything and he is also quite busy. I myself am working 9 til 9 for the next 2 days and by that point Bart will have well and truly started to decompose (which he will have already) so I hope you can understand where we're coming from.




We're not trying to offend you, and really do wish there had been more that we could have done. We were genuinely upset when we found Bart and the most we can do at this point is to say that the offer of a baby rabbit when they're ready still stands...



(What do I do now)?
 
Decomposition will not be so far advanced in such a short time that he would be unrecognisable. I wonder if Bart had bloat.
Ask if you can exhume the body yourself but you would need to do this sooner than later, time is of the essence.
 
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It sounds to me like they are starting to feel very guilty about the situation. If there is a glimpse that they are telling the truth, to me, they had know right to bury Bart after they told you that he would be returned to you. As for the baby rabbit, I think that is your decision completely on if you take the offer up but it sounds like a guilt trip to me. You should keep on pestering to se the body as at least that way, you will have some sort of closure that he actually has died and they are not just keeping him for their own benefit (((hugs))) xx
 
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I don't think I'll be accepting a rabbit, I am nearly 99.9% sure that guineas and rabbits can't be kept together ? aren't rabbits really strong ? anyway I've sent off another email to her so lets see what comes back if anything. I've a feeling this is going to be a unresolved issue, will I ever know the truth ? I've checked snowy continuously and he's eaten his food today and had some drinks and eaten all his veggies, I think he has mites rolleyesrolleyes this is all I need now, it's hard to tell with the scabs on his back, I'll pop him up to the vet in the morning to have an overhaul done.
 
At least it's good to see them climbing down from saaying that he died in childbirth! It must be ONE big relief in this sea of pain!
 
if he's got mites then the scab on his back could be self-inflicted, I've known piggies who live alone look like they've been fighting and it's not, it's just the mites drive them mad! Not saying he hasn't been fighting or whatever, just thought I should mention it. Hope he's ok.

Rabbits and guineas generally are not recommended as living partners as you're right, a mis-placed kick from a rabbit could harm a guinea. I've known it to work but general advice is not to

Sophie
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I'm so very sorry to hear all you have been through. Its hard enough trying to cope with the loss of a pet without having so many doubts about how he passed over to the bridge. I cant imagine how you must be feeling and I hope you find the strength to cope with your loss..
 
If they would have been honest in the first place, they wouldn't be in this pickle. Yep I agree with marty and the others who say do things in your time. It has been such an upsetting time for you. I think at this stage just tell her that you just want the truth and won't be offended. But it is the not knowing that is the hardest thing.

Best of luck!
 
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If they would have been honest in the first place, they wouldn't be in this pickle. Yep I agree with marty and the others who say do things in your time. It has been such an upsetting time for you. I think at this stage just tell her that you just want the truth and won't be offended. But it is the not knowing that is the hardest thing.

Best of luck!
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I agree fully with that!
 
Babs30 said:
I don't think I'll be accepting a rabbit, I am nearly 99.9% sure that guineas and rabbits can't be kept together ? aren't rabbits really strong ? anyway I've sent off another email to her so lets see what comes back if anything. I've a feeling this is going to be a unresolved issue, will I ever know the truth ? I've checked snowy continuously and he's eaten his food today and had some drinks and eaten all his veggies, I think he has mites rolleyesrolleyes this is all I need now, it's hard to tell with the scabs on his back, I'll pop him up to the vet in the morning to have an overhaul done.
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I wasn't suggesting that you house the rabbit with Snowy as I am aware that they should not be housed together. I meant 2 seperate cages :) Sorry, but I didn't want people thinking I was suggesting a guinea pig and a rabbit living together :) I really do hope you get some answers xx
 
Hi Babs, just wanted to post lots of hugs to you.... it must be just hurrendous to have these evil people telling you lies making you doubt your own mind when you have lost your lovely guinea pig (in my house our pets are our family) so it must be awful for you right now.

You sound like you have a lot on your shoulders too with a 6 year old as well and snowy the grieving piggy too - and all after a holiday which is supposed to be a break!

It might be best for your own sanity to take a bit of time out as you must be worn out with sleepless nights/restless mind/grieving for poor Bart.

Lots of hugs and good vibes winging their way to you x
 
Claire W said:
I wasn't suggesting that you house the rabbit with Snowy as I am aware that they should not be housed together. I meant 2 seperate cages :) Sorry, but I didn't want people thinking I was suggesting a guinea pig and a rabbit living together :) I really do hope you get some answers xx
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nope didn't think you were suggesting this, my area for animals is quite small ( I should have wrote that) so anything we'd get would have to get along as they would be quite close to each other.
 
Hugs, good luck to you in what ever you decide, losing a piggy is terrible. Many things have been said but only you will know what feels right for you, some times a moment to pause and breath reveals a clearer picture... sometimes it is easier just to let go, as hard as that may seem.

Hugs x
 
I would reply to that email asking to come around and them to show you where he is or to see their house. Ask to meet up with them at their house and discuss what has happened (question them more afterwards). Although unlikely... Bart could be alive. It bothers me that they probably breed a lot of animals as a lot of people that live on farms do. They are horrible people that don't deserve any animals.
 
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