new male alpha to go in with two alpha females, help for advice! :)

[wenton5]

Hello all, I have this lovely new piggie who is going to be neutered soon, I want to after his neuter put him in with my two sows, but they are ALL alphas. I have done quite a bit of research on the net and through guinealynx, cavy spirit and therea's website and barmy4 boars. Anyone have any insight? If it doesnt work out I can put him in with a new sow but I have read it is best to have three piggies together since one of my girls is getting older. I am also concerned how much he will bug him and how much he will get rejected since, like I said they are all very very alpha.
Thank you, Lara, Miss More Mores, Skunky boos and Romeo Choo Choo Anderson.
p.s. yes, I have a big cage.

sqeek!

 

[meganhannaford]

Hello all, I have this lovely new piggie who is going to be neutered soon, I want to after his neuter put him in with my two sows, but they are ALL alphas. I have done quite a bit of research on the net and through guinealynx, cavy spirit and therea's website and barmy4 boars. Anyone have any insight? If it doesnt work out I can put him in with a new sow but I have read it is best to have three piggies together since one of my girls is getting older. I am also concerned how much he will bug him and how much he will get rejected since, like I said they are all very very alpha.
Thank you, Lara, Miss More Mores, Skunky boos and Romeo Choo Choo Anderson.
p.s. yes, I have a big cage.

sqeek!

SORRY i cannot help you but would like to say welcome to the forum would love to see pictures

 

[wenton5]

Thank you! I will get pics soon!

The gang

 

[Pepperdog]

I introduced (twice) a neutered male into my trio of girls which is slightly different to your situation but two of my girls are rather bossy and sure of themselves so I worried about how the intoduction would go. It wasnt easy but on both occasions the acceptance happened within 30 mins. I am lucky to have a submissive third female which helped matters by defusing some of the tension and she is by no means a push over either so realisticly I have 3 very confident females in the trio, plus girls tend to actually take to a male easier than another female just because they are male.

Have a read through my thread here that I posted during the second introduction http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=90660 which also has the first introduction and helpful behaviour links to read and know what is normal and what is not. I deliberately posted the thread as a guide to how a male and female bonding can go, of course each set up is different as are the individual pigs but after riding out a lot of noise and the odd scuffle in the second bonding all 4 live as a happy little herd.

 

[Wiebke]

You can never tell whether things will work out or not - the crucial point is the initial acceptance which happens (or not) in the first 15-30 minutes. I have had one borderline bonding between a dominant sow and a very dominant "husboar", but it wasn't quick or easy and it took all my experience as the aggression level was very high.

I later rebonded that sow with her new best friend (another 3 year old high ranking cataract sow) at a rescue, so the girls could choose their own new (submissive) husboar themselves; they are still very happily together.

If you are not at all sure whether it will work out, I would strongly recommend to try "boar dating" your boy at a good rescue with another character compatible boar of his liking provided that you can keep the boars either in another room, across the room or - if you are short on space - above the girls' cage. That is a much less risky and expensive alternative. As the bonding happens under expert supervision at the rescue, you own risks are minimised - it is worth travelling a bit for that when you compare it with the risks and costs of a neutering operation.
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[wenton5]

I read that if the boars could smell my sows they would fight more.