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Pancreas Tumour (Not A Happy End)

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Two days after Pimple passed away I noticed her father, Jet, was a bit off his food. He'd been fine earlier in the evening, snatching salad and munching away, but a couple of hours later he had no interest in seconds. I feared there'd been a bad bit of food so got Infacol in him, and the following day got him to the vet for metaclopromide. The vet listened to his guts and diagnosed hypermotility, tying in with the bit of bad food theory.

On the drive back (20 miles from that vet) he passed a small number of reasonably healthy poos, and that evening he seemed generally quite happy and healthy although I did syringe feed him a little to be on the safe side.

The following day he was more bright and eating better for himself, so I stopped with the syringes and just kept an eye on him. Had a box set up on the bed so I could be sure what was going in and out, and if there was a problem in the night I knew I'd wake up.

On Friday evening he was doing well enough for me to be happy to put him back in his cage with his sister, he was still not eating with the pasion of a healthy pig, but was munching quite well and his poo was OK though not brilliant. Saturday and Sunday he came out to go in his box for a few hours each day just to check, and things seemed to be going OK. Sunday night he seemed a bit off again though, so first thing Monday morning it was box time. From 7am till 2pm he passed three or four tiny poos, so it was off to a local (and much cheaper) vet for another metaclop jab. This again appeared to help, though not as much as the first time round, and in the evening when the little that was coming out of him was hard and dry and tiny I gave him some liquid paraffin, which really did free things up in a good way. I also got back on the syringe 6pm that evening.

Very early Tuesday morning he stopped being so keen on chewing the syringed food, which was a huge concern. Over the morning he seemed to slow down again, and from being very active and happy Monday morning he was now much more reluctant to move, and showing no interest at all in food. Another metaclop trip saw a stick test done on his urine, which showed blood (even though visually the urine was crystal clear). As a UTI can put them off their food, and not eating properly can cause gut problems, we went with that being the probably cause and treated as such.

Wednesday he was markedly worse, another metaclop and stick test, plus specific gravity test on his urine. The gravity was good, very dilute (I was giving plenty of dilute cranberry), but he was getting worse. I feared a stone, I've seen similar eating/ pain issues due to that in the past.

Wednesday night he took a major turn for the worse, and pretty much stopped moving at all, even when prompted to get back in his box. He had been sitting hunched for a couple of days, and that became more pronounced too.

First thing Thursday morning I rushed him in for an x ray to be sure if there was or wasn't a stone. The x ray was taken around 12pm in the end, and the finding was very strange, and very very bad.

His bladder was fine, a little clouding showing the usual level of sludge, but no stones whatsoever. However, it did show unusual clouding apparently around his intestine. This is where things went from severe to what the hell. The vet could only know what was going on by performing surgery, which she was unsure would prove useful. As I said to her, he wasn't going to survive without surgery, and with surgery there was a chance we'd find out what the problem was and have a chance of treating it. Sadly, we did find out what the problem was, and we couldn't treat it. He had a sizeable tumour on his pancreas, and the vet knew it wasn't fair to wake him up :...

Now, the pancreas being so vital for digestion (never mind a large tumour fighting for room in there) would explain so much about his digestive issues over the last few days. The vet had never seen this problem in a guinea pig before, but as she admitted, vets have little chance to perform surgery as it seems too few people fight for their animals. He started with all the symptoms of a "routine" digestive upset, this developed into "classic" UTI/ stone symptoms, and all of these were down to the real, far more sinister, cause.

It's heartbraking as of all the piggies here, he was by far the most friendly and loving to other piggies (so long as they were girls!), and still bounced around like a baby even though he was approaching 4. I know this time we had no chance of saving him, so I don't feel I can shout at vets and myself, but that doesn't make it any easier to not have him here.

I've put this post up not as a memorial (I still don't have the words), not as a request for help (we're 34 hours too late for that), but as something that may hopefully be of use to others some time.
 
So sorry to hear abour your losses. To lose one piggy is bad enough but two is heartbreaking. These little animals leave such a hole in your heart when they pass over to Rainbow Bridge and I am still try coming to terms with the loss of Farquhar a couple of months ago. Jet and Pimple will be reunited at Rainbow Bridge and will be well looked after by all the other piggies. Thoughts are with you...
 
I'm so sorry for your incredibly sad loss.

Whenever I lose one of my precious furries, it lessens the hurt just ever so slightly if I can feel that knowledge has been gained that might save another in the future.

What an incredibly sad time you and Sarah are having at the moment. Sending you both love and hugs. x
 
I'm so sorry for you loss, but take comfort in the fact that he didnt suffer to long, my thoughts are with you.run free little Jet & Pimple.xx>>>

from Boris,Smokey,Bandit and myself xxxxxxxxxxx
 
So sorry to hear abour your losses. To lose one piggy is bad enough but two is heartbreaking. These little animals leave such a hole in your heart when they pass over to Rainbow Bridge and I am still try coming to terms with the loss of Farquhar a couple of months ago. Jet and Pimple will be reunited at Rainbow Bridge and will be well looked after by all the other piggies. Thoughts are with you...

I've said before, Pimps is *so* not a brige piggie.. She's probably stealing beansprouts somewhere in China before teleporting off to find peppers! Still feels wrong to wonder round the supermarket for piggie fresh and not be getting her anything :(

And for her dad to fall ill just two days afterwards, and then not make it... I'm just lost. We went through this a while ago, Fluffs died of what appeared to be a major digestive disorder, then about a week later her father Bob went almost exactly the same way. Brilliant piggies, and too close together to be able to comprehend, never mind cope :(


I'm so sorry for your incredibly sad loss.

Whenever I lose one of my precious furries, it lessens the hurt just ever so slightly if I can feel that knowledge has been gained that might save another in the future.

This time I really don't know what positives can really be taken. I guess the main thing is never assume a routine illness is that routine, and always keep a very close eye and be prepared to act asap. Even on Wednesday evening I was going along with the UTI diagnosis (and I can't fault ths vet for that given Jet's symptoms), and had I not been determined to rule out a stone yesterday morning Jet would most likely have died last night or today and we'd have thought it was an acute infection. So maybe don't always think they're fine just because they're acting and looking healthy (he must have had this tumour for months slowly growing, and never showed any signs till the last few days), and certainly if you have any doubts at all when they fall ill, get every diagnostic means possible. It wouldn't have saved Jet, but maybe that approach might save others. And if nothing else, maybe the post (as detailed as I could be tonight) might help others understand the condition even if it doesn't offer a cure.

What an incredibly sad time you and Sarah are having at the moment. Sending you both love and hugs. x

Thanks. It's just unbelievable. Jet was always athletic and healthy (and not at all a typical tubby piggie) and it's a huge shock. For this to happen so close to Pimple... And for him to be her dad... Just... Empty.

There's still others I'm worried about, not least his twin sister Flotty. They always had some messed up over close bond even as babies, and I'm just hoping she'll cope. I took her and Snowy, his private apartment (she lives in an upper level I built into the lower cage) girlfriend to mourn him at the vets so they understand he's not coming home. Was hard to hold it together, but I fgelt it had to be done and it gave me a chance to say goodbye too. Shed (an abbreviation as his real name wouldn't go down well here!), Jet's son, is in with Flotty to try and keep her company at the moment, and so far I think she's OK. I really hope so, all I need to do now is get him to understand jumping to the upper level to see Snowy as Jet used to.
 
I'm so sorry! Two so close together!

It's the sheer feeling of being utterly poleaxed when a piggy comes down with something big, and there is nothing you or the vet CAN reasonably do!

You know that you have given your pigs all the care and love, you feel betrayed and the only one you can rail at is fate and cosmic bad luck! No wonder you're feeling disorientated with such a big gap in your life.

I hope that concentrating on Flotty's wellbeing will help you a little bit at the moment.

With a BIG hug for you

Vicky
 
This is what is so great about being part of these forums. When you share what happens to one, it will always help another.

I'm so sorry for the tragic events you have endured this week. I had a pig with a kidney tumour; we never opted for surgery, but he lived for 9 months after diagnosis. Internal tumours/growths are always a tricky thing to make a call on.

Rest well, dear Jet. xx
 
Thanks for the kind words everyone. I really do want this to be an informative thread rather than memorial, but it's impossible to be absolutely cold and clinical about it all :...

I've just seen Flotmonster at the food bowl eating - The first time in weeks! Not only was she low the last few day, but it seems nobody has wanted to eat the Excel I had - Another 10kg sack in the bin then. Moved over to Science Selective, which seems to go down better. I'd prefer to get the Waggs Optimum as it's much cheaper, but I tried in the past and they weren't too keen. At least with them not being too keen on the Excel it's encouraged them to tuck into the variety of hays I've got here, which I prefer to them living purely on pellets.

Flots and Shed seem to have really taken well to each other, every time I check they're next to or near each other, and when I throw veggies in they eat nose to nose. Flots and I have never got on, but it's damned good to see her eating and active after all this. Snowy (the definition of a Stinklepig) has been a bit low, but I'm currently hearing her swearing at Shed, he's worked out how to jump up to see her (she's in a section of the lower cage, but with no ramp as she won't go downstairs due to Flots, and Flots would go up the ramp and be seen with chunks of Snowy in her mouth...). It's really good she's having some piggie company, but hard to keep the tears back as that's just what Jet, his dad, used to do.
 
I am glad that your other piggies seem to sort themselves out the way you were wishing - but yes, the gap is there, and the memories are still far too vivid!

We know pigs are not forever, but we can't help getting far too much attached every single time, can we? For such small bundles of fur, they pack so much personality in!

Thank you for telling us about the tumor. I'd never heard anything abot it before!

Love and all the best for the rest.

Vicky
 
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