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Pictures of Enlarged Heart (Ultrasound & Xray)

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So after the vet told me my girl didnt have a heart problem, I went back because I knew she did. He admitted the stethesiscope wasnt adqeuate way of diagnosing so done as I asked - ultrasound and xray. They showed she had a enlarged heart and fluid around the heart. She is now on medication for the fluid and will be getting heart meds when they get them in (soon, just got to get the liquid form for her).

This is the ultrasound:


Side view xray:


Top view xray:


Gypsey herself xoxo
 

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Well done for pursuing and getting her on the right medication.

I am positive I lost my guinea pig Bob to a heart condition but the vet wouldn't listen and wouldnt prescribe me medication. He did an xray but said he couldn't see his heart because of too much fluid in the lungs...I don't know if this was true. Bob certainly did have a lot of fluid on board and a week before he died developed "fat eye" the vet didn't even know what this was....it makes me so angry and sad thinking about it because I went back and forth to the vets for 5 months and only they day before Bob died did I get frusimide. There is more to the story but would take far too long.

How did you know Gypsy had a heart problem?

I hope Gypsy does well on the medication :)
 

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Well done for pursuing and getting her on the right medication.

I am positive I lost my guinea pig Bob to a heart condition but the vet wouldn't listen and wouldnt prescribe me medication. He did an xray but said he couldn't see his heart because of too much fluid in the lungs...I don't know if this was true. Bob certainly did have a lot of fluid on board and a week before he died developed "fat eye" the vet didn't even know what this was....it makes me so angry and sad thinking about it because I went back and forth to the vets for 5 months and only they day before Bob died did I get frusimide. There is more to the story but would take far too long.

How did you know Gypsy had a heart problem?

I hope Gypsy does well on the medication :)
Honestly it took me a while! I went to my usually good vet who done one xray and said nothing could be seen, then went to the heart specialist who was the one with the stethesiscope. He charged me £20 to say she was fine when I knew she wasnt, so took her back to him filled with info and demanded he done the above.

I'm surprised your vet didnt think anything of the fluid itself - thats one reason we know Gypsey has a heart problem because there is also abnormal fluid around the heart itself. She is on medication to sort this out now.

I honestly think Gypsey would have died soon if we werent finally getting it sorted now. She too has developed fat eye and her 'hooting' was getting more frequent.

I thought she had a heart issue after she began making a hooting noise and coughing/choking sound now and then, it would only be once a month but loud enough to wake me up at night. I panicked and thought she had a URI, went to the vets who said there was nothing wrong with her breathing or lungs, thought that would be it and maybe she had a allergic reaction to something/hay was too dusty. Then it got more frequent, and she was always laying down and sleeping heavily after running around (shes always been a laid back pig who was easy to handle etc but this was ridiculous how much sleep she seemed to need compared to her cage mate).

I went on guinealynx and got some advice, and looked at the heart page and realised she ticked quite a few of those boxes. Thats when the mission began. Honestly even my mum told me I was looking into it too much etc and that I should lisen to the specialist - but now the vet said he has to eat humble pie and is very impressed with the info I was able to find (thanks to guinealynx really).
 

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Well I am glad your vet listened.

I too took the guinealynx info with me where Bob ticked almost every box, he was a very unwell piggie. So laid back and slept a lot and hard to wake. He would even fall asleep on me for hours and not wake. The vet just tried to ignore what I was saying and got quite angry with me. Like I say more to the story and I have since left that vet surgery!

I hope gypsy does well on her medication x
 

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Great pictures of the xray and ultrasound!

So glad that you got what you wanted for your girl, who is stunning by the way! x)

Hope that the meds come in soon and i bet you will see a difference in a week :))

Sending best wishes x x x x
 

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Ah, she's so pretty! I hope the medication can get her back on track.
Wishing you and Gypsy al the best. Hope she recovers soon. Good job you realised she had a problem and made the vets look at it.

Sorry to hear about your Bob TwoPiggies :( Such a shame nothing was done when it could've been :(. How wrong of your vet to ignore you when you had all the information with you of Bob's symptoms grrrr.
 

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Char, I am absolutely thrilled that you got the diagnosis and treatment you knew Gypsey needed. I called it "mothers instinct" with my own heart pig, I sadly lost her three weeks ago but she had a good 7 months of life which I am sure she would not have had without treatment. I know other pigs can go on to have much more time, years, as you well know.

Piggies with heart issues are particularly close to my own heart and I am happy for it to be known it is the subject I am most interested in. So to read that your Gypsey does indeed have a heart problem is not a "down" point for me, I am simply delighted that this diagnosis means Gypsey gets the treatment she needs, as you have known for so long that Gypsey is a heart pig.

This is also credit to you as an owner, pushing for the tests to be run that proved what you knew. Good on you. xx
 

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Wow those pics are weird lol, i'm only used to seeing my X-ray pictures!

So pleased the vet listened to you and now Gypsey is on med's she needs.
Well done you for getting the correct diagnosis (sp?) and for getting the vet to listen to you.

Good luck Gypsey sweetheart xx
 

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Char, I am absolutely thrilled that you got the diagnosis and treatment you knew Gypsey needed. I called it "mothers instinct" with my own heart pig, I sadly lost her three weeks ago but she had a good 7 months of life which I am sure she would not have had without treatment. I know other pigs can go on to have much more time, years, as you well know.

Piggies with heart issues are particularly close to my own heart and I am happy for it to be known it is the subject I am most interested in. So to read that your Gypsey does indeed have a heart problem is not a "down" point for me, I am simply delighted that this diagnosis means Gypsey gets the treatment she needs, as you have known for so long that Gypsey is a heart pig.

This is also credit to you as an owner, pushing for the tests to be run that proved what you knew. Good on you. xx
Thanks :) I just wish I had pushed straight away rather than lisening to the vets say she was perfectly fine (and do that patranising-your-being-paranoid smirk) until she was hooting a few times a week. I feel guilty about that but I just like to think that if she stayed where she was before I got her, she would of been bred from and never diagnosed no doubt - its some consolation anyway!

I am very worried she will have less years than she could have done without this heart issue, I really am hoping once on the meds she has quite a few years to go, she is 3 right now. As silly as it sounds to some, I see the pigs as my furry children and I would hate to have her life expectancy cut short :...

Do you know what causes heart problems? And if it is related to blindeness? As she nearly fully blinde now but that could have been the cysts she had and was spayed for (been through alot bless her).
 

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I am quite sure one of my past sows Tuppy was a heart pig. I knew, deep down, and I questioned both a vet and the CCT, but because her heart sounded fine on steth, it was not deemed necessary to carry out further tests. I regret not pushing for that, but by losing her (nearly two years ago now) with her undiagnosed and me still quite sure she was a heart pig, it made it all the more important to learn about it and get any future heart pigs recognised, diagnosed, treated. Can I forgive myself for not pushing for Tuppy? I can now, I know I did what I could at that time. But it doesn't stop me wishing dearly that things went differently for her. The best way I can pay tribute and use Tuppy's life experience in the best way to honour her, is to get clued up on heart pigs so I can push my case whenever necessary. Luckily I didn't need to push too hard for my Gwenny girl, she had an audible issue, fluid around the heart (pericarditis) noted on steth, her response to the diuretic proved that there was a heart issue of some kind causing this fluid to keep returning. In turn she started medication and although it was CHF that got to her in the end, she still got a wonderful 7 months more, and that's priceless for me and for her, it's a long time in a piggies life.

I am very worried she will have less years than she could have done without this heart issue, I really am hoping once on the meds she has quite a few years to go, she is 3 right now. As silly as it sounds to some, I see the pigs as my furry children and I would hate to have her life expectancy cut short
I asked just the same question when I posted on Guinea Lynx earlier in the year, I asked about compounding heart meds and I did raise a very similar question, about being concerned if too much damage has been done already. I can't remember who but you could probably find my thread and find out, one member said her pig was diagnosed and put on heart meds for CHF. The pig is still going 6 years on. If you can't get any hope from that, well then there's not really anywhere you can get hope from. :)

What causes heart problems, possibly same as in humans, some of it may be hereditary/genetics. I'm afraid I don't know any other causes, heart problems in piggies as I understand it has been a bit of a grey area until more recent years. And whether there is a connection with the blindness, either to the cysts or the heart issue, again one I can't really give an answer for, unfortunately at this stage my knowledge is not particularly strong beyond my own experiences and the basics.

I wish you all the luck in the world for Gypsey, I do hope she responds to her meds and you get much much longer to love on her before her time comes. xx
 
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