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just a thought for our in-experienced piggie slaves (myself included) we perhaps should have a list of piggie junk foods on here things that are great as a very occasional treat but are not so good for them as a constant feed source ?
 
Big NO NO: any bars that contain seeds, nuts, dried fruit, dairy, sugar/honey and fat. Same goes for yoghurt drops and similar shop treats. If you want to buy treats, go for dried herbs or forages, but give them only in small quantities. Dried plants are higher in calcium.

Foods that should not be fed at all:
Potatoes - too starchy.
All bulb plants including the green bits of leeks and chives.
Mushrooms.
The leaves, stems and seeds of all nightshade plants like tomato and (bell) peppers.
All other pulses except mangetout or green beans , like French beans.
Some varieties of avocado can be highly poisonous to guinea pigs.
Exotic fruit can cause diarrhea and severe tummy upset, so never feed in any quantities.
Avoid highly "bloaty" cabbages like white and red cabbage as well as Brussels sprouts. Other, less bloating cabbages, can be fed every few days if introduced slowly and as part of a mix of veg, so piggies never eat them in big quantities. These are broccoli, sweetheart/pointed cabbage, savoy cabbage, the green leaves of cauliflower. If you have a piggy with a delicate digestive system, leave all cabbages out.

Foods that should be fed only very occasionally:
spinach (very high in calcium), kale, the outer leaves of brussels sprouts.

Only every few days:
Fruit like apple, pair, seedless grapes, melon, strawberries (including tops), small bits of organic banana (with skin).
Carrot and Romaine lettuce (high vitamin A content that builds up in the liver and can cause liver failure later in life).
Tomatoes
Green beans
Sweetcorn (with leaves and husks)
Parsley
Spring greens

Veg high vitamin C veg: (bell) peppers of all colours - one slice, fresh parsley and dill, broccoli. Ideally, on eof these should be part of the daily mix of veg.

This list is not comprehensive.

If anybody is interested in more information about specific foods and what they contain, look up the food chart on Guinea Lynx: http://www.guinealynx.info/chart.html
 
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Thanks for that WEIBKE. I bought some parsley the other day and forgot if I could give them it or not. I think maybe they can have a little bit in a while.
 
Oooh yes, this is a brilliant idea!

Wiebke, i just wanted to check about the broccoli as it was under your section about 'bloaty cabbages' and to only be fed in small quantities, but then you put that it was high in vitamin C and to be fed daily at the bottom. Just wanted to check as my girls often eat broccoli so i'll reduced it if it's not so good for them!

Thank you, thank you! :)
 
is it just romaine lettuce that can cause the vitamin A liver build up? or all lettuces?
 
Wiebke:

"If you have a piggy with a delicate digestive system, leave all cabbages out."

I think the same is true of cruciferous veg like broccoli and cauliflower. :)

The trade off with kale, which should be fed in moderation as you say, is that it's quite good for dental piggies as it can be used to wear down the back teeth quite well.
 
I'm a new piggy owner and I had no idea about not feeding them the stalk of the bell pepper. I fed one to them a week ago, they seem ok, but I'm a bit worried now. Will they be ok?
 
I'm a new piggy owner and I had no idea about not feeding them the stalk of the bell pepper. I fed one to them a week ago, they seem ok, but I'm a bit worried now. Will they be ok?

They'll be fine. Actually stalks etc. of fruits/veg or tops etc. are usually better for piggies than the actual fruit/veg itself. E.g. Carrot tops are a far better food than carrots which should be fed in moderation/very sparingly. Don't worry about your little piggies, I'm sure they loved the pepper stalk and will probably wolf another one down if you have one around :)
 
So cucumber and apples should be in moderation?

Bally and Maceo only seemed to like apples and carrots but I have had them on carrot leaves and trying other stuff from the list above. Although I am surprised that they didn't even taste the fresh basil I gave them...

My previous pigs all lived off a big chunk of cucumber every day with either a half carrot or apple + crunchies + hay - 2 of them died of teeth problems and one of heart failure. Could there be a link?

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So cucumber and apples should be in moderation?

Bally and Maceo only seemed to like apples and carrots but I have had them on carrot leaves and trying other stuff from the list above. Although I am surprised that they didn't even taste the fresh basil I gave them...

My previous pigs all lived off a big chunk of cucumber every day with either a half carrot or apple + crunchies + hay - 2 of them died of teeth problems and one of heart failure. Could there be a link?

?/

I kinda answered this in the other thread (about teeth anyway). The heart failure could definitely be linked to overfeeding on fresh food like carrots, apples and cucumber. The carrots and apples have a lot of sugar and the cucumber has a lot of water. Cucumber is safer but they shouldn't have big chunks. Only because of what I put in the other link - they won't eat their hay which is more important.

Cereal bars or any packaged "treats", whether it says suitable for guinea pigs or not, really are not suitable. Yes, they may be safe to eat in the fact that they're not poisonous. No, they're not suitable because it's just empty calories/high in sugar and is like giving a lot of sweets or junk food to a baby...
 
OK, now I'm really lost! ?/

Mine don't like broccoli, carrots, most kind of leaves (chards, lamb lettuce etc.), will only nibble at fruit and are not really interested, and only eat parsley, celery leaves, endives (only a little), lettuce (only two types), escarole, peppers and cucumbers. They adore the sticks that apparently are so bad for them. :...

Now I don't know what to give them apart from the same food every day! :{
 
If you look into it, virtually every food has some cons.

Just feed everything in moderation and you will be fine. You can persist introducing new veg by including it every few days, then leave it lying around a bit. Especially young piggies do well if they learn to taste a wide range of foods. I must admit that it is a bit easier with a group of rescue piggies - they eat everything with gusto and I try not to serve too much at once.

For instance, I rotate carrots, tomatoes, apples, green beans, sweetcorn, parsley and other fresh herbs and give a slice or a bit everything every few days - there is not that much apple per piggy when you divide it in 12 slices like I do! :). Mine get a slice of pepper every day. I feed quite a bit of sweetheart cabbage, sometimes other cabbages, broccoli about every second day and some lettuce. The piggies get a small slice of cucumber and a bit of celery each daily. The best herb to feed on a daily basis is fresh coriander. Just a sprig per piggy will do!
 
Gold fish (crackers)

Are you seriously telling me that?

Crackers are a BIG no-no for Guineapigs! Guineapigs diets should only consist of fresh vegetables, dried pellets like Oxbow, and unlimited supplies of hays!
 
What about sweetcorn but in grains like popcorn? Could that be good for grinding their teeth? Because I've noticed that their are some bits sometimes in cereal mixes.
 
What about sweetcorn but in grains like popcorn? Could that be good for grinding their teeth? Because I've noticed that their are some bits sometimes in cereal mixes.

Sweetcorn should again be fed in moderation because of the high sugar content. As Wiebke says, there are always downsides to everything so it's important to have a good mix and the right balance.

In contrast to sweetcorn, baby sweetcorn can be fed a little more frequently because it doesn't contain as much sugar.

In response to the question about bars and stuff above. Think of it like giving a baby sweets. Yes they can have them and I'm sure they like them but really, they can do without them and sweets aren't exactly nutritious...
 
If you look into it, virtually every food has some cons.

Just feed everything in moderation and you will be fine. You can persist introducing new veg by including it every few days, then leave it lying around a bit. Especially young piggies do well if they learn to taste a wide range of foods. I must admit that it is a bit easier with a group of rescue piggies - they eat everything with gusto and I try not to serve too much at once.

For instance, I rotate carrots, tomatoes, apples, green beans, sweetcorn, parsley and other fresh herbs and give a slice or a bit everything every few days - there is not that much apple per piggy when you divide it in 12 slices like I do! :). Mine get a slice of pepper every day. I feed quite a bit of sweetheart cabbage, sometimes other cabbages, broccoli about every second day and some lettuce. The piggies get a small slice of cucumber and a bit of celery each daily. The best herb to feed on a daily basis is fresh coriander. Just a sprig per piggy will do!

This is exactly what we're talking about now in various threads. This is fantastic, the piggies not only get a good balance of everything they need but, by rotating, you ensure that they don't get bored too easily or get used to one type of food and reject other types.

I know it's not that easy to do for everyone and, as Wiebke has sooo many gorgeous piggies, it's probably easier to make economies for so many piggies (I'm only guessing there). We only have two so what they get is a scaled-down version of this. They get veggies twice a day but it will be one veg in the morning and a different one in the evening and never the same thing more than twice a week except for pepper and grass which they get three of four, sometimes fives times a week.
 
Can I ask how long do you all keep your food? I used to keep ours in the fridge then get it out, wash it & leave it at room temperature before feeding it to my piggies, would that have been ok? If some of us only have/had two pigs, it could be rather wasteful chucking out stuff every day or two, especially if it is rotated? For example, I used to give mine a centimetre chunk of cucumber twice each day, so how long after opening the cucumber would it last for before I should have thrown it away?
 
Can I ask how long do you all keep your food? I used to keep ours in the fridge then get it out, wash it & leave it at room temperature before feeding it to my piggies, would that have been ok? If some of us only have/had two pigs, it could be rather wasteful chucking out stuff every day or two, especially if it is rotated? For example, I used to give mine a centimetre chunk of cucumber twice each day, so how long after opening the cucumber would it last for before I should have thrown it away?

In my opinion (and what I do) is anything that I personally wouldn't eat myself goes in the bin. I'm sure us humans throw away stuff that is perfectly edible though! As long as it's not mouldy I'm sure they'll be fine! We always have cucumbers in the fridge and they tend to last for a week in my experience.

I guess I'm lucky though as I have four guineas and four rabbits so nothing stays around for long!
 
Can I ask how long do you all keep your food? I used to keep ours in the fridge then get it out, wash it & leave it at room temperature before feeding it to my piggies, would that have been ok? If some of us only have/had two pigs, it could be rather wasteful chucking out stuff every day or two, especially if it is rotated? For example, I used to give mine a centimetre chunk of cucumber twice each day, so how long after opening the cucumber would it last for before I should have thrown it away?

I know the feeling. We have two piggies and it's a constant "should I shouldn't I?" towards the end of the week. For example, our two will never go through a bag of spring greens in a week. We've managed to get into a system where we only buy them things that we will also eat (which has meant instead that we've learned to eat new things like spring greens...). I have to say, we more often than not find ourselves in a situation where the fridge is empty and we feed them grass rather than waste food but we also like to try to get a variety of things that we know will keep for a week - cucumber, peppers etc. :)
 
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