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Please Help- Urgent - Fighting Boars With Injuries

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TheCavySlave

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OH MY GOD. Help someone please. Basically Duncan and Godfrey fought. They both seem shocked and Godfrey...his eyes are scratched, he sort of paws and didn't move much. I can't see them, it's night and late and mum's angry, basically. Help. I don't know what to do I'm shaking and scared and I can't go and see them. I've separated them but there's only one water bottle and...someone talk to me, please.
 
I'm so scared, he looked so sort of shocked and so did Duncan and I can't check on them until morning what can I do? I just want to talk to someone because I'm so scared for them. The scratches on his eyes didn't look too severe but what if he's hurting? I don't know what to do.
 
I'm sorry your two boys have had a fight,it is frightening .ive had three boar pairs have a locked on fight,knocked the other piggies teeth out.you have done the best thing to seperate them.check them over in the morning,any wounds clean with cooled boiled water,i would advise maybe seeing a vet if unsure,bite wounds can puncture,sometimes cause abcesses.Try to keep calm,can your mum help you to look them both over,you could put a bowl of water in the other cage,more pellets and plenty of hay in each cage.Then after this week look at your options to keep apart with divider,or get each a mate.In the immmediate period just ensure both boys are safe,get a vet to check both boys to the extent of any wounds.x
 
Thank you for your support! I'm just so scared. What if one dies? I simply can't stand the thought of a creature being in pain. They are separated and I think I hear rumbles so maybe they're okay. I hope I can get to sleep, I just want to wake up and check them over.
I'm scared.
 
Hope your okay I've never been in that situation thankfully but don't fret to much! I was like that when Noodle was coughing these past few days and it seems daft but we love our pigs lol. Just give them a good check over in the morning with your mum and put a bowl of water in the cage. i think that's just a risk you take with boars...and sows too. Hope their both okay and you aswell.
 
Oh no that must be awful for u :(
But it sounds like you've done the right thing with separating them.
&I agree with cc98 to put a bowl of water in instead of a bottle to drink out of. If he needs water at least he has access to it.

It might be worth having a look to see what damage has been done to both boys if any.
If the eyes are damaged or scratched in any way its best to see a vet-as eye problems are prone to complications if not treated asap.

If there are any wounds they may need antibiotics to stop infection &painkillers so they are more comfortable &dont lose their appetite.

Make sure they are comfortable, warm enough. Check their poop output &eating quantities.

They're probably in shock too after a full on fight-so try &keep them calm (&you;) )talk to them softly & reassure them.
Definitely dont attempt to put them back together-it won't work.

I would definitely book a vet visit first thing or if there are bad eye injuries try ringing the emergency vet for advice if u have one?

Fingers &toes all crossed for their speedy recoveries.

Hopefully u can get some decent sleep too. Xx
 
TheCavySlave said:
OH MY GOD. Help someone please. Basically Duncan and Godfrey fought. They both seem shocked and Godfrey...his eyes are scratched, he sort of paws and didn't move much. I can't see them, it's night and late and mum's angry, basically. Help. I don't know what to do I'm shaking and scared and I can't go and see them. I've separated them but there's only one water bottle and...someone talk to me, please.
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Hi! Please take a deep breath!

Good that you have split the two boys. Please have them seen by a vet as soon as you can tomorrow as the eye needs to be seen and treated promptly. Disinfect any skin scratches with saline solution (which you can make yourself by mixing 1 teaspoon of table salt into half a pint of boiled, cooled water). Have any deep bites seen by a vet; if there are any, they may need an antibiotic or at least close observation for swellings in the next few weeks (abscesses).

Use a little dish to provide water for the healthier boar until you can get another bottle. The boys won't go back together after a serious fight like that.

When you can breathe and think normally again, please have a read through our fall-out guide and discuss the different options that I have listed in great detail for the longer term with your parents. But wait until you know what is going on with the boys and the shouting has been done, so you can have a constructive discussion.
Boars: Bullying, Fighting, Fall-outs And What Next?
 
Okay so we can't seem to take them until Monday or later I believe. I'm genuinely panicking. Duncan has marks too, hard to see under his fur though. Do we take them both? I'm so scared! It's both Godfrey's eyes, one is worse than the other. I'll have to talk to mum, but I wish I knew what to do. It's really difficult to stay calm:(
 
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Okay so we can't seem to take them until Monday or later I believe. I'm genuinely panicking. Duncan has marks too, hard to see under his fur though. Do we take them both? I'm so scared! It's both Godfrey's eyes, one is worse than the other. I'll have to talk to mum, but I wish I knew what to do. It's really difficult to stay calm:(
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I'm sorry to hear this.Could they not go in earlier for a check over? xx
 
Oh I'm so sorry, I hope things get better for you soon! (HUGS) Poor little Godfrey...... :(
 
Can you post a photo of his eyes? Are they still separated? I wouldn't put them back together again, they will have to live separately now. If the lacerations are on his eyes or eyelids they could become infected, or he might even have damaged his eye , so you need to get him to a vet before Monday. There are plenty of vets open Saturday mornings now.
 
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I'll see what we can do:(
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Please get them seen before Monday. Even if its a general vets or even the pets at home ones.

His eyes being damaged/injured are the primary concern. They need to be treated as soon as possible.

Eyes are very fragile &complications can develop very quickly. Spiralling out of control quickly if not treated in time.
One of mine is having drops at the moment :(

Painkillers will probably be needed if they have had a fight as those teeth will hurt if either has been bitten :(
Some antibiotics will probably be a good idea in case of any puncture wounds that can quickly get infected.

Healing vibes being sent. X
 
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We can try, I just feel like such a terrible owner, it's all my fault.
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Please don't feel terrible; these things can blow up out of the blue. You are a caring mum.

But can you please tell your mum that the experts on The Guinea Pig Forum strongly recommend not to wait until next week with eye injuries as they can ulcerate and deteriorate very quickly, so you have a lot more trouble and cost if you wait too long. Any vet you contact will also urge you to bring any guinea pig with an eye injury in as soon as possible to prevent the infection from going deeper into the eye, which is much more difficult to treat. ;)

Have you disinfected any skin scratches like I have explained in yesterday evening's post?

Please have them both vet checked to be on the safe side, but take them in different carriers; a cardboard box will do for number #2.
 
I'm so sorry to hear this, I know how much you love your boys. I hope you can sort something out with your mum and get them to a vet before Monday.
 
Okay so they'll see the vet tomorrow, but I'd like advice about the future. Right now Duncan is in a sort of extension, run thing, and it's directly joined to the C&C cage Godfrey's in. Duncan rumbles to him through the bars, and they say hi. Is this okay? So neither will get lonely? I mean is this okay for the future, they can live like that without being lonely? It's good that they can talk through the bars without fighting, but is there any chance we can rebond them in the future, or is their relationship simply doomed forever?
 
TheCavySlave said:
Okay so they'll see the vet tomorrow, but I'd like advice about the future. Right now Duncan is in a sort of extension, run thing, and it's directly joined to the C&C cage Godfrey's in. Duncan rumbles to him through the bars, and they say hi. Is this okay? So neither will get lonely? I mean is this okay for the future, they can live like that without being lonely? It's good that they can talk through the bars without fighting, but is there any chance we can rebond them in the future, or is their relationship simply doomed forever?
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It is great that they are chatting through the bars, but in all honesty once they have had a major fall out the chances are high it could happen again if you try to put them back together.
It will be safer for everyone if they live in separate cages for now, and you can consider options for companionship once you have the time and space and get over the shock.
 
I have 2 boys in a C&C cage with a grid down the middle, they seem fine, they natter away & even lie together with the grid between them. I don't think you can ever put them together again, the next fight could be even worse. I'm glad you are taking them in tomorrow I would worry that Godfrey would lose his sight. If you waited any longer.
By the way why is your mum cross at you
 
TheCavySlave said:
Okay so they'll see the vet tomorrow, but I'd like advice about the future. Right now Duncan is in a sort of extension, run thing, and it's directly joined to the C&C cage Godfrey's in. Duncan rumbles to him through the bars, and they say hi. Is this okay? So neither will get lonely? I mean is this okay for the future, they can live like that without being lonely? It's good that they can talk through the bars without fighting, but is there any chance we can rebond them in the future, or is their relationship simply doomed forever?
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I wouldn't worry too much about lonliness if they are living right next door to each other. My boys talk through the grids, touch noses through the grids and William particularly likes to chew the grids noisely to get Angus' attention and then rumblestrut next to the grids when he comes up to see what the commotion is :lol!:
 
TheCavySlave said:
Okay so they'll see the vet tomorrow, but I'd like advice about the future. Right now Duncan is in a sort of extension, run thing, and it's directly joined to the C&C cage Godfrey's in. Duncan rumbles to him through the bars, and they say hi. Is this okay? So neither will get lonely? I mean is this okay for the future, they can live like that without being lonely? It's good that they can talk through the bars without fighting, but is there any chance we can rebond them in the future, or is their relationship simply doomed forever?
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Hi! Your boys are OK as live-alongside neighbours with interaction through the bars as long as each has a decent-sized cage. As long as they can interact but still have theoir own territory, they are still bonded even if they cannot live together. A number of members has got "can't live apart and can't live together" boar pairs.

Whether they will get back together entirely depents on whether the fight was really serious or just a scuffle in a tight space that got out of hand. In any way, you have to wait until they are completely healed and then conduct introductions in a neutral space to see whether they gel again or not. Please take the time to read the relevant guides at the top of the behaviour section with all the tips and necessary information first; it can really make the difference. You will also have to avoid creating any spaces/hideys with just one exit where a boar can get caught in and fight just to get out of a tight space.

How old are they?
 
They turned 1 in March, and my mum was just in a bad mood and she's sorry and we're off to the vets tomorrow. Godfrey has a 2 x 4 C&C and Duncan has a space probably bigger. Duncan looks sort of like "Godfrey...I need company...come here" and Godfrey sticks his nose through the bars and Duncan rumblestruts. I don't think they can live fully together again, frankly, it would be safer to keep them apart. They both seem happy and I'm really glad I have this forum for support!
 
TheCavySlave said:
They turned 1 in March, and my mum was just in a bad mood and she's sorry and we're off to the vets tomorrow. Godfrey has a 2 x 4 C&C and Duncan has a space probably bigger. Duncan looks sort of like "Godfrey...I need company...come here" and Godfrey sticks his nose through the bars and Duncan rumblestruts. I don't think they can live fully together again, frankly, it would be safer to keep them apart. They both seem happy and I'm really glad I have this forum for support!
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Good that you have all the space you need, so you do not have to scramble when you have to split your boys!
Sadly, in a few cases things can blow up at this late stage before they reach adulthood and the hormones settle down a bit more. Whether they go back together entirely depends on whether it was more of an accident than an intentional fight. If it was just an accident, then it is still up for grabs. You'll only find out when you re-introduce and see whether they will get on without confrontation and fighting, but you have at least the comfort that they are not unhappy as next door neighbours.
Just get another bottle tomorrow; that is all that is missing. :
 
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