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Recurrent UTI and highly stressed owner!

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Hi everyone

I'm hoping that someone might be able to give me any of their experience with dealing with UTIs.

Our rescue pig, Piglet is going through recurrent UTIs at the moment. We're onto his 5th one in two years at the moment. He's around 3.5 years old. His treatment is always the same - 0.25ml of Metacam for the first 4-5 days along with a 7 day course of 0.5ml Baytril. This time he's also on probiotics as i asked the vet for them to help protect his gut.

The occurances have been getting closer together lately. We started with a 6 month gap between the first two, then 6 months between the 2nd and third, 2 months between the 3rd and 4th, and about 5 weeks between the 4th and the current one.

He goes the same way each time - stopping completely still with a 1000 yard stare and lifting his bum to pee or poop, and then a very distinctive 'wheek...wheek...wheek' as he goes.

This current one has scared me as it is the first time that we've had blood. His urine is clear now though (three days in) but he's still a bit grumbly when he pees or poops, although not every time. We came back from holiday and he literally started wheeking the minute he saw me, although my mother in law said he's been absolutely fine up to then, but its possible that he may have had it for longer than normal without treatment.

We've been lucky to hear the first wheeks each time when we've been at home late in the evening, and our emergency vets are brilliant. They make up his antibiotics, i collect them and am generally syringing them in within 2 hours. He then goes to the normal surgery the following day for a check up.

Other than that he's his normal piggy self. Appetite is good - eating lots of hay, cucumber, dandelion and some parsley (as recommended by the vet for the bladder). He loves people and is still sociable, resting normally and washing. We've had a couple of yawns and stretches (very cute!) and he runs up and down his ramp ok, with a little jump off at the bottom out of choice.

We've had scans done about a year ago and urine test from the bladder. It came back negative for stones, crystals and sludge. The vets have never felt anything in the bladder and haven't yet scanned him again as his last scan was clear.

I've got an appointment for him within the next two weeks to see the Bristol Zoo exotic vet who visits our practice. I'm hoping that they might be able to find a permanent solution to this, but I'm at the end of my tether worrying about him! We've previously dealt with a tooth problem pig with a heart murmer that we lost despite an op and hand feeding, a pig with a blocked grease gland who developed a lump that had to be removed after a year spent draining and cleaning at home (he's now well recovered and full of the joys of spring) and now this one with recurrent UTIs. I feel cursed even though they're all worth it! :<> 8:)

The only other things i can come up with at the moment is the possibility of changing their water for low calcium bottled or using a filter to get any chalkiness out, trying cranberry juice and extra water by syringe, or homeopathy.

Our other pig is dominant and has a weird habit of bumping Piglet's bum until he pees and then licking it up(!) I'm very aware that this could have a behavioural cause but I can't seperate them as they do get on and pine badly when they're apart.

They are year round indoor and have a double level cage that I'm considering expanding as another solution to this, on vetbed with a layer of newspaper underneath and hay on top. All are changed daily for fresh. They eat Excel blackcurrent and oregano pellets, with normal farmers field hay from a local field and Excel herbage. They also have dried dandelion.

If anyone has any suggestions or things that have worked for them, or have been through this it would be great to hear from you. I just want to make him well again but it's so difficult! mallethead
 
While I'm thinking about it, i just wanted to also say that Lucas vets in Bristol and Highgrove vets who now own the practice under their group have been amazing!

I found them through this forum as my old vets had hardly any guinea pig knowledge with the exception of one vet who had worked at the zoo and has subsequently moved on.

They've got our other pig through his blocked grease gland episode and I'm hopeful that they can help get Piglet over this as well. Thanks so much to the forum for recommending them :(|):(|)
 
Hey, sorry you are having problems with your piggie. It maybe worth asking your vet about Septrin it is not licensed as a antibiotic for Guinea Pigs but is widely used and tends to clear up UTI's more successfully than Baytril. Another thing it may be talking to the vet regarding is cystease it helps line the bladder. I would definately ask as to the use of Septrin as the antibiotic of choice to treat UTI's

I hope Piglet gets well soon
 
Thanks sport_billy. They were two things i was thinking of - thanks for reminding me as I'd forgotten about them! I've heard that as paedeatric septrim is banana flavoured, it goes down better than the Baytril as well. Unfortunately I'm allergic to it so I don't have first hand experience on that one! rolleyes

Our old cat was on cystaid which cleared up his recurrent cystitis really well. He had it as a management treatment. I was told it's not licensed for GPs either, but as we're seeing the exotics vet I might be able to get some that way from someone who knows a bit more than the standard domestic vet.

Thanks again!
 
Thanks sport_billy. They were two things i was thinking of - thanks for reminding me as I'd forgotten about them! I've heard that as paedeatric septrim is banana flavoured, it goes down better than the Baytril as well. Unfortunately I'm allergic to it so I don't have first hand experience on that one! rolleyes

Our old cat was on cystaid which cleared up his recurrent cystitis really well. He had it as a management treatment. I was told it's not licensed for GPs either, but as we're seeing the exotics vet I might be able to get some that way from someone who knows a bit more than the standard domestic vet.

Thanks again!

Septrin certainly has gone down better with Putt in the past, she gets a flat face when we give her baytril :))

You can get Cystease from online as it is a supplement but as we any treatment it's always wise to discuss it with the vet, I think our dossage was 1/4 of a capsule disolved in water each day. Let us know how you get on at the vets..
 
Septrin certainly has gone down better with Putt in the past, she gets a flat face when we give her baytril :))

You can get Cystease from online as it is a supplement but as we any treatment it's always wise to discuss it with the vet, I think our dossage was 1/4 of a capsule disolved in water each day. Let us know how you get on at the vets..

Is cystease the same as cystaid? Cameo is having real problems with cystitis at the moment!
 
Is cystease the same as cystaid? Cameo is having real problems with cystitis at the moment!

I believe it is, just done a quick google. It helps line the bladder, we were told a dose of 1/4 capsule a day. Poor Cameo she's going through the mill at the moment isn't she..
 
Hi,

I know what you are going through my piggie is the same:(

I found pearl barley water to be very effective, boil some pearl barley and water for around 20mins making sure it doesn't boil dry.

cool and syringe feed to your piggie, my gp loves it and takes it readily and I have noticed a big change in his condition of his coat and he has put on weight. Also the bleeding seems to have stopped as long as he has it reguarly

worth a try:)
 
I believe it is, just done a quick google. It helps line the bladder, we were told a dose of 1/4 capsule a day. Poor Cameo she's going through the mill at the moment isn't she..

She is, we're talking to the exotics specialists at langford tomorrow to see what they think about her urinary symptoms. I'll def. try the cystaid though - it's very effective in cats...

Getting back to the OP - I've had Cameo on barley water (with a little spot of honey to help it go down!) which can apparently help. We're also steering clear of metacam as it can affect the kidneys, she's having vetergesic (opioid) jabs instead.

Nice to see a local too :)) If you have any luck with the vet from the zoo, can you let me know? I'm really struggling with my piggy at the moment!
 
If your pig hasn't had a urine test or an x-ray for a year, I would also recommend that you discuss having these tests done again with your vet. Good luck with the exotic vet, hopefully he will be able to help.
 
Thanks sport_billy. They were two things i was thinking of - thanks for reminding me as I'd forgotten about them! I've heard that as paedeatric septrim is banana flavoured, it goes down better than the Baytril as well. Unfortunately I'm allergic to it so I don't have first hand experience on that one! rolleyes

Our old cat was on cystaid which cleared up his recurrent cystitis really well. He had it as a management treatment. I was told it's not licensed for GPs either, but as we're seeing the exotics vet I might be able to get some that way from someone who knows a bit more than the standard domestic vet.

Thanks again!

Just being nosey here - who was your old vet :))
 
Hi Amanda. Old vet was Zetland. They were good in general but not small furry specialised.

Piglet seems to have started wheeking more again tonight. It seems to be when he passes a pellet. Not sure whether to call the vet again as other than that he's his usual self. Don't want to leave him though in case its a problem. Arraghh!
 
Hi Amanda. Old vet was Zetland. They were good in general but not small furry specialised.

Piglet seems to have started wheeking more again tonight. It seems to be when he passes a pellet. Not sure whether to call the vet again as other than that he's his usual self. Don't want to leave him though in case its a problem. Arraghh!

Which surgery did you go to? It's a case of getting the right vet and there's so damn many of them!

Does Piglet has some pain relief? Cameo is also vocalising when passing poos, I think it's more the straining causing pain than the actual pooing with her... she's had this for almost 3 weeks now, it's driving me mad!
 
Hi
Sorry to hear about piggy - can you tell me where Highgrove Vets are - are they in Tetbury near where Prince Charles is (near me ) as I googled it and it comes out as a vets in Portsmouth and one in Corsham - just thinking what would be nearest me in an emergency - Amandas practice is about 30 miles or so from me - & my local vets are not specialists by their own admission.

Thanks

Caroline
 
Which surgery did you go to? It's a case of getting the right vet and there's so damn many of them!

Does Piglet has some pain relief? Cameo is also vocalising when passing poos, I think it's more the straining causing pain than the actual pooing with her... she's had this for almost 3 weeks now, it's driving me mad!

Sorry, I might not have been clear there. Zetland was my old vet but Piglet isn't with them. He's being seen by Lucas vets with Highcroft on Wells Rd as the emergency and the surgery we're going to for the Bristol Zoo exotics.

He's on 0.25ml metacam daily at 6.30pm so has had his dose tonight. He's had doses Sunday night to tonight along with the metacam.

Hope Cameo starts to feel better too. Is she seeming happy enough between the squeaks? Piglet seems to be like that.
 
Hi
Sorry to hear about piggy - can you tell me where Highgrove Vets are - are they in Tetbury near where Prince Charles is (near me ) as I googled it and it comes out as a vets in Portsmouth and one in Corsham - just thinking what would be nearest me in an emergency - Amandas practice is about 30 miles or so from me - & my local vets are not specialists by their own admission.

Thanks

Caroline


Highcroft are in Bristol so not sure if they're that close? They're at www.highcroftvet.co.uk
 
Sorry, I might not have been clear there. Zetland was my old vet but Piglet isn't with them. He's being seen by Lucas vets with Highcroft on Wells Rd as the emergency and the surgery we're going to for the Bristol Zoo exotics.

He's on 0.25ml metacam daily at 6.30pm so has had his dose tonight. He's had doses Sunday night to tonight along with the metacam.

Hope Cameo starts to feel better too. Is she seeming happy enough between the squeaks? Piglet seems to be like that.

Zetland have several surgeries around Bristol - I work there ;)

As you say, they don't specialise in exotics, but there are a couple of vets who can and do treat them - it's just a case of finding who they are. They're all having a bit of a crash course in pig medicine with me and my pigs! I hear highcroft are great though, and we may well be calling them about Cameo.

She's happy enough, she's getting a bit miffed with all the syringes of gunk going down her neck, but she's started wheeking again today - it was music to my ears! This all started after I had her spayed, so I feel ultra guilty at the moment!

Do you have any cranberry juice or barley? It could be worth a try, it works in people!
 
Have her checked by a vet. If she is found that she has interstitial or chronic cystitis (which does not react to antibiotics), I would also recommend trialling cystease/cystaid, a food supplement for cats with bladder problems. My Nerys (chronic cystitis) has been symptom free for over a year now since she started on it.

I would still recommend having your piggy checked for bladder stones/sludge.

http://www.guinealynx.info/uti.html
 
Zetland have several surgeries around Bristol - I work there ;)

As you say, they don't specialise in exotics, but there are a couple of vets who can and do treat them - it's just a case of finding who they are. They're all having a bit of a crash course in pig medicine with me and my pigs! I hear highcroft are great though, and we may well be calling them about Cameo.

She's happy enough, she's getting a bit miffed with all the syringes of gunk going down her neck, but she's started wheeking again today - it was music to my ears! This all started after I had her spayed, so I feel ultra guilty at the moment!

Do you have any cranberry juice or barley? It could be worth a try, it works in people!


I've got some pearl barley but heard conflicting things about it's safety. I think I might end up phoning them just for some reassurance. Things are more worrying at night when you know help is harder to find, plus I hate leaving a sick pig to go to bed.

If you work at Zetland it's well worth seeing if you can find a vet called Clara who worked there a while back. She locumed at Lucas last year when Piglet had his scan, but I don't know where she is now. She helped us with our dental pig and ended up having to put him to sleep but she did a good job of what she could with him.
 
Have her checked by a vet. If she is found that she has interstitial or chronic cystitis (which does not react to antibiotics), I would also recommend trialling cystease/cystaid, a food supplement for cats with bladder problems. My Nerys (chronic cystitis) has been symptom free for over a year now since she started on it.

I would still recommend having your piggy checked for bladder stones/sludge.

http://www.guinealynx.info/uti.html

Whats the "dose" for cystaid?
 
Hi There,

Goodness I'm sorry about your ongoing woe's had them myself and very much know how you feel, my Patrick has had this problem for 2 years, it initially started as a simple infection, which then led to crystals and an inflamed bladder wall, he has been diagnosed with 'Chronic cystitis' also some scarring, tissues or growth found in the bladder via ultra-sound which was tested for negative cells, We don't know what it is but could possibly be scarring in the bladder - anyway's moving onto your pig.

The devil you know is always a good bet - ie metacam. I do think it's very much about weighing up Quality of life and potential kidney damage. It's no contest really it's fast, effective and help's the inflammation. Patrick previously had an injection of vetergesic which didn't really help the pain or react well with his gut I ended up syringe feeding as he wasn't passing his poo's correctly.

This Patrick without Painkiller's.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-pZG2gfSdQ[/ame]

Within 30 minutes of metacam he is much better.

I didn't find Cystease made much difference he's currently on a 4 week course of Cosquin on week 2 and he's much better, I'm also syringe additional fluids 50 - 60 mls a day. When doing this you do have to be careful not to aspirate the Guinea Pig, I lift his side lip and put the syringe in giving 0.2mls at a time. I can do 10mls in 5 minutes.

We plan on trying the Cystease again once he's finished his 4 week course of Cosquin.

I would ditch the Dandelions and Parsley - as they are high in Calcium and with some IC pigs can be a trigger. As his UTI's are re-occuring he could develop IC so Xray or Ultrasound along with urine sample is a good bet.

Has he been tested for infection? I did a urine sample at home - which was completely Sterile - I refused for it to be taken from the bladder, his bladder is sore enough. I made sure it was as sterile as possible which it was no contamination!

We found Patrick got better with Antibiotics initially but after a little they had little to no effect so he's not had any for sometime. We found both Baytril and Septrin would clear the blood but never the squeak.

I would also try reducing his pellet intake if you haven't already as this can irritate the bladder. Patrick also squeak when passing pellet's due to pressure on his bladder. I must say he is a lot better especially since I started to syringe additional fluids and I also filter his water.

I have him scanned regularly but stones are never found.

Happy to share all I know, Hope this helps!
 
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I've got some pearl barley but heard conflicting things about it's safety. I think I might end up phoning them just for some reassurance. Things are more worrying at night when you know help is harder to find, plus I hate leaving a sick pig to go to bed.

If you work at Zetland it's well worth seeing if you can find a vet called Clara who worked there a while back. She locumed at Lucas last year when Piglet had his scan, but I don't know where she is now. She helped us with our dental pig and ended up having to put him to sleep but she did a good job of what she could with him.

Clara greenwood I believe works at vets now in Clifton.
 
Hi There,

Goodness I'm sorry about your ongoing woe's had them myself and very much know how you feel, my Patrick has had this problem for 2 years, it initially started as a simple infection, which then led to crystals and an inflamed bladder wall, he has been diagnosed with 'Chronic cystitis' also some scarring, tissues or growth found in the bladder via ultra-sound which was tested for negative cells, We don't know what it is but could possibly be scarring in the bladder - anyway's moving onto your pig.

The devil you know is always a good bet - ie metacam. I do think it's very much about weighing up Quality of life and potential kidney damage. It's no contest really it's fast, effective and help's the inflammation. Patrick previously had an injection of vetergesic which didn't really help the pain or react well with his gut I ended up syringe feeding as he wasn't passing his poo's correctly.

This Patrick without Painkiller's.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-pZG2gfSdQ

Within 30 minutes of metacam he is much better.

I didn't find Cystease made much difference he's currently on a 4 week course of Cosquin on week 2 and he's much better, I'm also syringe additional fluids 50 - 60 mls a day. When doing this you do have to be careful not to aspirate the Guinea Pig, I lift his side lip and put the syringe in giving 0.2mls at a time. I can do 10mls in 5 minutes.

We plan on trying the Cystease again once he's finished his 4 week course of Cosquin.

I would ditch the Dandelions and Parsley - as they are high in Calcium and with some IC pigs can be a trigger. As his UTI's are re-occuring he could develop IC so Xray or Ultrasound along with urine sample is a good bet.

Has he been tested for infection? I did a urine sample at home - which was completely Sterile - I refused for it to be taken from the bladder, his bladder is sore enough. I made sure it was as sterile as possible which it was no contamination!

We found Patrick got better with Antibiotics initially but after a little they had little to no effect so he's not had any for sometime. We found both Baytril and Septrin would clear the blood but never the squeak.

I would also try reducing his pellet intake if you haven't already as this can irritate the bladder. Patrick also squeak when passing pellet's due to pressure on his bladder. I must say he is a lot better especially since I started to syringe additional fluids and I also filter his water.

I have him scanned regularly but stones are never found.

Happy to share all I know, Hope this helps!

Thanks flintstones - that helps a lot! :)

I watched the video of Patrick and its just like Piglet - right down to the noises and the deliberate lifting of the bum. Piglet doesn't seem to go on quite so long though and touch wood isn't passing blood at the moment.

I've just given Piglet what I call the 'diagnositic cucumber' Guaranteed to bring out the wheeks in a sore pig! I can normally see from this what the state of his pain is as the cucumber is very watery and passes through quickly. He looks bright with a good appetite but he still worries me, and at least the cucumber will help with fluids and flushing everything out. If he's still in increased pain then I'll call the emergency vet and see if anything needs to be done tonight.

I've had the vetergestic suggested to me, but both I and the vet were reluctant as it makes them drowsy and I was worried about his gut function. After reading your experience I'll stick to that opinion!

I think based on your experience and some other things I've read, this is the plan:

Try to get my exotic appt moved forward to this Monday so we can get everything underway asap.

Speak to the exotic vet about...

cystaid - could it help?

septrin for future attacks rather than baytril?

diet - where may we need to make changes?

Scanning and urine culturing - I think we may need another one of these at this stage

The possiblities that this could be stress related from our other pig

Do they need more room/exercise and is he a healthy weight (is a slightly rounded pig rolleyes)?

Cosquin - could this help for Piglet as its helping Patrick?

Extra liquid syringing? I've been reading your thread which was really helpful and I'll ask if there are any veggie juices Piglet might like as well as water.

You said you're filtering your water now - is that with a brita filter?

I'm going to print this thread and Patrick's thread out and take them along as well so the vet can see what has and can be done.

Thanks so much! And hope that Patrick is better soon!
 
I would ditch the Dandelions and Parsley - as they are high in Calcium and with some IC pigs can be a trigger. As his UTI's are re-occuring he could develop IC so Xray or Ultrasound along with urine sample is a good bet.

Happy to share all I know, Hope this helps!

That's also very useful to know - he's been having a lot of these the last few days as we thought it might help and dandelion is a significant part of his diet. I'll go to cucumber only for the next few days and see if it helps. The wheeks seem to have been worse this time around, but we've also been giving him lots of dandelions and parsley...
 
Thanks flintstones - that helps a lot! :)

Speak to the exotic vet about...

cystaid Cystease is a third of the cost and does not contain Alpha - if the vet says it's ok to try buy it from VetUK,

http://www.vetuk.co.uk/dog-and-cat-...0-feline-cystitis-glucosamine-capsules-p-1146
It's a lifelong treatment basically Glucosamine.

Cosquin - this is the first time I've used it normally it has been given to Dogs with arthritis but they then found it was very good for Cats with Crystal formation and cystitis. Proving well with Patrick - I have no adverse effects and Patrick's squeaking is much better, he's no longer on Pain killer's either. I do also think water intake is important, I would look to syringe him water being very careful. I put 0.2mls in at a time to prevent aspirating him. Feed 10 mls then a break feed another 10 mls water x3.

septrin for future attacks rather than baytril? Personally based on my experiences I would say it's possible he doesn't have an infection - urine culture would be an idea but I wouldn't allow them to withdraw it from the bladder. I find even when I don't give Antibiotics now the blood stop's after a day.

diet - where may we need to make changes? Guinea pig pellets - I Would reduce these if they are unlimited and feed leafy green leaves. Avoid acidic fruits and high Calcium (Dandelions are also a diuretic so they will be helping by flushing his bladder but should really only be an occasional treat, along with parsley perhaps twice weekly).

Scanning and urine culturing - I think we may need another one of these at this stage -Definitely (Xray or Ultra-sound, if Ultra-sounding they have to know what they are looking for, you can see sludge and stones in the Bladder when ultra-sounding. Xray will show up stones, both can be done without GA, I hold Patrick well he's ultra-sounded it's amazing what can be seen! In 6 weeks Patrick's bladder went from clear to scarred/growth unsure and inflamed bladder wall, stones can appear within a month. I would also ask the vet if they have a microscope (I imagine they do) to check for crystal in the urine.

The possiblities that this could be stress related from our other pig - Unlikely, I would presume, your pig problems are clearly in the bladder if he's squeaking when urinating and passing pellets, the vet should check for kidney stones to.

Do they need more room/exercise and is he a healthy weight (is a slightly rounded pig rolleyes)? Guinea Pig's come in all weights and Sizes my heaviest 1195 kg, lightest 924 grams.


Extra liquid syringing? I've been reading your thread which was really helpful and I'll ask if there are any veggie juices Piglet might like as well as water.
I have scraped the veg juice and just syringe water now, I did give Cranberry and Pearl Barley but I found he turned his nose up at everything in the end. I can't stress the importance of giving tiny amounts (0.2mls at a time) - Aspirating your Guinea Pig can be fatal.

You said you're filtering your water now - is that with a brita filter? Yes, £29.99 from Argos with 6 Cartilages free.

Best of luck at the vet tomorrow, unfortunately Bladder issues are a huge problem. Let us know how you get on!
 
Thanks again flintstones! I'll pass all that info on to the vet.

It's horrible that Patrick is so sore but it's nice to know we're not alone over here at the same time.

I cracked last night and phoned Highcroft. A very nice male vet had a chat with me and we decided he should come in for a check up straight away to rule out blockages in the bladder. I couldn't tell if he'd had much of a pee in the preceding 12 hours so better to be safe than sorry.

The vet had a good feel around and the good news is there are no blockages. We discussed the vetelgesic as that was the best option for pain relief. I asked him to check Piglets notes, and he's had it before when I had middle of the night issues with the pain starting back in December - that was the injection he had at the emergency vets. I decided to let him have a shot of it at the lowest dose as he's tolerated it before.

This morning he's a bit spaced out, but this is the same as our cat who had the same pain killer a few months ago for a tooth problem (we really do collect these problem animals! rolleyes)

He's not interested in his pellets, but neither is our other pig (too much bribery with the veggies yesterday i think!) I gave him some cucumber and his favourite Excel forage hay, and there was no problems getting that down him so he's eating. I think he's just a little swimmy in the head at the moment, but there appears to be no pain, so hopefully it will give him a little respite.

My boss is lovely and agreed I can take today as holiday to be here in case he has eating or pain issues, and then i can get him sorted rather than leaving him until this evening. Considering I went to sleep at 3 in the end i'm very grateful!

He's just this minute come out of his house and started eating pellets which is great!

The vet also moved our exotic appt to this Monday so I can get him seen asap.

Really hope we start getting on top of this now.
 
Hiya -

Goodness what a scare, there's no problem with a pain killer injection I would just rather give metacam daily, and it does seem more effetive the injection only last's 12-24 hrs. It's much easier, it's important he's Xrayed or ultra-sounded to rule out stones and also have his urine checked for infection.

I hope he has a better weekend, I know myself how many times I phoned the E-vet but I always had him checked for stones, it"s got to the point he does it that often that I know exactly what's going on and not to panic but I have seen him squealing in pain on occasions. It's not pleasant.

I do hope both our pig's will be on the way to recovery soon.
 
Hiya -

I do hope both our pig's will be on the way to recovery soon.

I really hope so!

We have had a breakthrough today. Piglet was very drowsy after the injection today but on the plus side - no wheeks! However, at around 4pm he was sitting on my lap and suddenly jumped onto my chest like he'd had a shock. There was no sign of pain, just surprise. I also noticed that his poops were a bit slow but put it down to the injection.

Earlier that afternoon I had a minor miracle. I was clearing up in the bedroom and looked onto the floor and saw a little white stone about a quarter size of a 5p. I picked it up and it looked suspiciously like a bladder stone to me - like a crystal. I googled some images and put it in a sample pot for the vet.

After Piglet jumped on me I wasn't happy so called them, told them about the stone and said I was bringing him in.

The confirmed he had most probably passed the stone (how, I don't know - it was huge for a male piggy urethra!) which I think happened Sunday night when he was bleeding. He didn't see a vet till Monday morning as I picked up medicine for him from the emergency vet on Sunday evening. When they then examined him there was no stone to feel, which is why no one suspected stones before now.

The vets were great tonight - he had an ultrasound that confirmed crystals in the bladder and a urine test that indicates they are calcium oxinate. They are very small crystals so he should be out of immediate danger until Monday when he has his exotics appointment. We've also now got a diagnosis and tests done ahead of the appt so I'm very pleased. He perked right up since the vets visit, and it peeing and pooping well, so I'm hoping that as we've got really good medical care that knows guinea pigs (access to about 10 vets across the group with varying levels of small furry expertise!) that we'll be able to start getting this under control.

I'm upset its stones, but at the same time relived that i know now, and also hopeful that we can keep it under control.
 
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What great new's - it's not all bad I promise. Patrick has never had stones, but his urine has almost always had crystals which has been causing all his problems.

My friend has some information re stones, which she will provide before Monday for you to discuss with your vet!

Doe's he drink a lot of water?
 
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