Saw this on facebook, opinions please.

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I just read through the conversation that you copied & pasted. So are you karina then? Sorry just trying to get my head round it lol
 
I dont really want to say who I am at this point. I want to see what you all think first. I promise to tell you though.

This was posted after a photo of a bunny and guinea pig together in a cage in front of a food bowl Sorry if its hard to read


Carolyn Coughlin
A lovely, if somewhat unlikely pairing. My Rex boy Bunny- Cinammon & my recent arrival Holly the Guinea have fallen in love! They both came here as extremely skittish creatures, but seem to have given each-other a new-found confidence. They're lovely to see together!
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Stacey Aw beautiful x
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Toni aww thats wonderful
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Karina Do you worry about the bunny kicking or accidentally hurting your guinea pig?
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Sarah thats lovely, they wouldnt be huddlesd together like that, if they didnt like each other. i dont think cinamon, would intentionally hurt holly. this is a lovely pic, they look great together x
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Karina I didnt say intentional I said by accident. Rabbits are a lot stonger and bigger that guinea pigs. It would be easy for the guinea pig to get injured buy a kick, jump, nip that wouldn't usually hurt another rabbit. Also the food that rabbits and guinea pig eat is different. Rabbit food had vitamins that are not good for pigs.
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Karina This is on the RSPCA website. https://www.rspca.org.uk/allaboutanimals/pets/rabbits/company/rabbitsandguineapigs
Keeping rabbits and guinea pigs together
www.rspca.org.uk
Our position on keeping rabbits and guinea pigs together.
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Sarah i think carolyn, already knows all of that hun xx
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Karina If so she wouldnt of put them together
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Sarah think owners generally know whats best practise for their own pets, everyone is aware of the rspca,s position on it. xx
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Karina Its not just the RSPCA that is against this. Its just basic common sense. Its like putting degus and chinchillas together. It would probably work for a while but why take the risk of serious injury or death? Why not pair them with their own kind?
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Karina Also the food issue isnt a risk its a fact.
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Sarah
they may well be seperate at other times, i dont know, i simply think the picture is gorgeouse, and lovely to see, 2 differant types of animals enjoying each others company. I'm sure carolyn, has guinea pig food and rabbit food, your making ...See more
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Karina I am not making incorrect assumptions based on a photo. They are eating from the same bowl of food in the photo. One of them is eating the wrong type.
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Karina I wasn't talking about them playing together for a little while and neither were you.
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Sarah oh dear karina, you seem to be annoyed. I'm not putting any further comment, i just think the picture is lovely. and i speak plainly, i dont say one thing and mean another. your after discord. and I'm not playing :?
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Karina I can see that we are not going to agree on this but I couldn't not say anything when everyone is cooing over a photo of what appears to be a guinea pig and a rabbit living together. This gives the impression that this pairing is ok and its not.
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Carolyn
Karina ...just get off my case will you! Go & annoy someone else! I've owned Rabbits & Guinea-pigs all my life without any problems, if you look carefully at the picture (which it sounds as though you have with a magnifying-glass) yo...See more
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Karina I was saying that guinea pigs and rabbits shouldn't live together. I didn't say anything about them playing together. You have just said that they don't live together. So I don't see how I am getting on your case.
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Sarah i think the picture is lovely carolyn, and its a shame people jump to conclusions really xx
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Carolyn
Go away you opinionated, ignorant person! You've made pathetic assumptions based on a lovely photograph, just to gain yourself a bit of much-needed attention & in doing so, you've made yourself look a geek! Not everything in life is text-bo...See more
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Karina Wow dont know what just happened to the last post. I just said that my posts were not directed at you Carolyn and that I am sorry if I offended you. I have seen the problems that fulltime guinea pig/rabbit pairing can cause and was probably to abrupt in my typing style. Thi
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Karina We are all here for the animals and I dont understand why you are getting personal
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Carolyn
Thanks for your valued support Sarah, & to you Karina , you were having a go at me over the weekend regarding a wheel in a Hamsters cage that I'd only just bought from another member, & that I'd posted the photo to sho...See more
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Karina I didnt have a go at you. I called you a good pet owner for using a good wheel for your hamster and not sticking with the little on that came with the cage.
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Sarah
no problem carolyn, i know you know all the ins and outs of guinea pig and rabbit keeping, i just saw the cute pic, and wanted to coo over it. it wouldnt have enterd my head, that you were keeping animals inapropriatly or feeding the incorr...See more
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Karina
I'm not attemping to humiliate you. I think that you are the one jumping to conclusions now. If someone posted a concern about one of my animals then apologised when told that the pig and rabbit didn't live together. I would thank them for t...See more
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Carolyn
Thanks Sarah, you sound just like me, an animal-lover who does their best to fulfil the emotional & dietary requirements of our pets, this Mini-Rex boy of mine (Cinnamon) truly loves spending a few hours of his day with Holly...See more
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Sarah
carolyn , you donrt need to explain to me, i am exactly the same with my pets, they all spend some amount of time interacting, and i wouldnt let them if i thought ther was any danger of them being hostile to one an other. i have seperate ou...See more
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Carolyn
Thank you so much Sarah, for those lovely words & your show of support! Cinnamon & Holly were never socialised with other animals (admittedly & by their previous owners admissions). This has made them wary of interaction & they've felt chal...See more
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Lorraine my bunnys have always paired up with a pig . i have 2 house buns and a piggy who all sleep together .
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Stacey
Ah I see this got a bit heated whilst I was cleaning up after every one in my house, Karina hun thankyou for your concerns which I'm sure they just were but as already stated Carolyn is a very experienced animal owner n has paired many furb...See more
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Carolyn
I agree Stacey, but when members choose to share photos amongst the group, it's rather off-putting if we feel the photo is going to be scrutinised, criticised & thus draw negative attention to the person who posted it. This is a fun site & ...See more
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Stacey I don't want any members to feel they can't post pics for fear of unwanted negative comments, everyone is entitled to post pics as long as its animal related, I myself have posted pics of dogs with elephants, a dog with a fox n kitten, if its cute post it, you know me by now Carolyn n know I would be one of the first in there if I thought anything was untoward with any pic or the animals in it, x
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Karina
Hi, I have already left it. Once I found out Carolyn is an experienced owner I apologised. The offence that she felt about was not intended, although reading back I see why she felt this. I was too blunt and maybe I didn't come across how I...See more
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Karina Editted due to awful spelling...
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Carolyn The whole point of this group is that we are all experienced pet-owners & animal-lovers, so any photos I choose to post are highly unlikely to negatively influence anyone elses' decision in how to raise their own animals....give them credit!
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Karina But don't inexperienced owners look to experience for guidance on whats safe and appropriate for the animals?
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Karina You know what, lets make that a rhetorical question. I can't see us getting on and no matter how loud or how many names I'm called I won't change my opinion on this. Its a shame because to a large extent we are thinking the same thing and still arguing about it. I won't be engaging in this anymore.
 
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Ok well I can (kind of) see why the (owner of the group I presume) lady got a bit touchy, she probably thinks other members might see it like she doesn't know what she's doing. But she needs to learn to accept other peoples opinions (sorry if that sounds harsh). I bet the picture was super cute though :) but it is fact that rabbits & guineas have different dietary requirements, so the lady commenting was exactly right. I think some others were being very defensive & unfair to the lady that was only expressing her thought (& facts!)
Ive had lots of rabbits & guinea pigs, & some (not all) do get on brilliantly for playtime in the run etc. My bunny Charlie has free roams around the house & garden, & when I'm cleaning out the guineas he tries to hop in there & have a munch on their food, & if I ever took a pic of this & posted it, I might be a little offended if someone assumed I wasn't fully meeting my pets needs.
However I'm sure the lady said they live together? Which is different entirely. So the lady's points were very valid.
Sorry for the long post :))
 
If I had been in that situation instead of commenting publicly on the photo I would have sent her a PM expressing my concerns and waited until I heard back from her about it. I think the reason this got so out of hand is because other members jumped in and went on the defensive.
 
I fully back you up. Rabbits and guinea pigs should always stay on seperate sides of the fence (as it were) i dont care if they were just playing, keep them appart. You did the right thing, and good on you!
 
I've been on the group & had a proper read through. The pic was cute & the owner sounds like she knows how to care for her animals properly. People take caring for animals very seriously, they're as important to them as children! So someone assuming/accusing you of not doing your best is bound to get people's backs up. However I don't think anyone meant to cause trouble just advise, but it did get heated & people probably said things they didn't mean. Also if it's true that the lady posts pics of chinchillas & guineas...well pot kettle in my opinion.
 
I'm sorry but if they were together in the picture, they were together. You had every right to point out the info and the lady (not matter how experienced) did wrong. Good for you, i back you 100% of the way.
 
Oh sorry, it was all a bit confusing. Ok, trying to put myself in that situation...in my opinion I'm thinking if I posted a pic of one of my guinea pigs & my dog together, & got lots of negative comments then I'd be pretty upset & angry people had jumped to conclusions. When I know my pets myself & my dog is mother hen to all my pets :)
I believe it does depend on the animals, I've heard that a rabbit may be territorial with another rabbit, but will accept a guinea.
I don't see what's wrong with spending a bit of time together, they're not living together.
 
I get where your comming from, but from what the OP was shown they were eating the same food (which rabbit and guineapigs shouldnt be doing, they need different diets)
Rabbits can pass bacteria to guineapigs, that are harmless to the rabbits but very dangerous to the piggies. if a rabbit got scared by a noise in the room it might kick out, and one kick can easily killl a piggy (we arnt talking an agressive kick here) also, there is little point keeping them together as they dont communicate in anywhere near the same way, and are much happier with their own kind.

Sadly i have seen some horror stories of people keeping them together and things going wrong, and with all the rescues able to propperly bond either species with their own kind, there really is no reason to do it.
 
My mum has been in a similar situation before by trying to advise someone to go down the route of getting a pair of guinea pigs instead of a guinea pig and a rabbit and it turned really nasty.

In general people don't like being told that they are doing something not the norm and in some cases you need to think about if you are going to say something to someone how you would do it.

At the end of the day you were only trying to help and advise.
 
Thanks everyone. So I guess you all know who I am, lol.
The feedback I'm getting it that while my opinions are valid I was....a bit blunt.....shall we say.
I reconise that and agree.

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I do feel sorry for another person on there though. She is only young and posted on a photo by the rabbit/guinea pig person. This one is a hamster on a tiny wheel. The girl has very nicely said that the hamster will need a bigger wheel soon. (its pretty much doubled over) The young girl has had a mouthful from carolyn and has now made several groveling apologies, almost begging for forgivness. Poor girl.
 
Seems dramatic to me but i understand both sides & why everyone was "passionate"
 
And thats sad about the girl and her hamster! Carolyn or whatever her name is seems like a bully almost
 
My very first guinea pig (when I was a little girl) was bought with a Rabbit as they were both in the same cage in the pet shop.

They lived together for a few weeks and the Rabbit ended up kicking the Guinea Pig and breaking his hip. She then pushed him out of the hutch into the run. The vet put him under to look at his hip and said it would need a pin and plate and he would have to do it with a needle! We also had to feed critical care to the guinea pig for a while until he got better. The hip had already fused so my pig lived his life with a dodgy hip with the vet saying he would be okay.

And the above things and even worse can happen so I would never put a Rabbit and a Guinea Pig together again. :...
 
This may seem a little weird, but because I don't have access to the group, I looked at this Carolyn's fb page. By the looks of things (in her public photo album), it is NOT a one off and she does keep them together. There are several pictures in which there is a bunny and one or two piggies. (e.g. 'And here's Jacob, the other one given to me by Belles owner; he's a cute'n'cheeky Lionhead who shares his hutch with 2 of my girl Guineas, who you can just see peeping out from sleeping-area!' and 'My new Lionhead X girl Belle! I collected her last week, after I spotted a plea on a website that she & her mate (Jacob) needed to find a new home asap, as their owner was moving house. Belle now happily shares a huge wooden hutch with 4 boy Guineas!' <--These are captions to some of the photos).
I back you 100% too. They should not be let in a run together, let alone housed together.

Again, sorry if this seems a little strange for me to do. Lol.
 
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Anything that dosent conform to the "thats a cute photo, its ok to have them together" has been deleted and it turns out the carolyn is admin. What a suprise. Also they state that its a non breeding group but one I of the other admin is a breeder selling babies on there. I'm thinking that this wont be the last disagrable photo/post i see on there.

Why oh why did I look anywhere guinea piggish but here?
 
I can see what you mean from what you've said, but I'd like to see it first hand and give them a peice of my mind! :))
 
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I can see what you mean from what you've said, but I'd like to see it first hand and give them a peice of my mind! :))
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There is a link to the group in the first page of this thread. Dont expect anyone on there be nice though. Except me of course. Ha x
 
for some reason it doesn't seem to be working otherwise i'd already be ove rthere now defending you :))
 
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