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So confused about what to do neuter or baby boar

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Hi,
I have booked in my lonely boar to be neutered on the advice of a few people and a vet but a breeder has now said it’s unnecessary and he could be bonded with a baby boar - is that true? Am I doing something unnecessary ?
 
Hello, it depends on what kind of companion you want for your boar. If you’d like him to be with a sow then the neutering is the route to go. If you’re happy to have him bonded with a male then neutering is not necessary. :)
 
I don’t mind I just want him happy. Is it easy to bond with a baby boar?
Very easy :)
Ive always taken my existing boar out of his cage and put them in a neutral area with a big plate of veggies, some hay and let them get to know one another. For a baby they tend to just want company of another piggy. The older piggie will probably try and mount the baby to show whose boss but that’s normal.

otherwise you can take your boar to a rescue and if They do boar dating they may be able to pair your boy up with another male that is compatible.
 
He'll likely take to the baby and the baby will no doubt love him too...
but when baby hits his teenage years after a few months all bets are off. The bond may survive smoothly, you may end up with two pigs who don't like each other much or it may be all out fighting and you have to split them both and then decide whether to start again with more piggies or just keep them as neighbours.

In your situation I opted for neutering a 3 to 4 year old boar (we didn't really know) and paired him with a girl. He was delighted but she was less impressed. His second wife was a complete love match though and they made a lovely well-bonded pair. I've had all my boars from rescue (blue cross) and they neuter nearly all their boars as standard before they go to their new homes. George my avatar pig has been happy to know 5 different ladies in his life and although one of them didn't like him at all he's certainly got some memories ☺️

Both options are viable - if the op goes smoothly you'll wonder what you were worried about. If you are anywhere near a piggy rescue give them a call and ask about boar dating, but also see where they get their boars neutered. If that vet is an option you can bet they'll have had quite a bit of practice!
 
Thank you - I have chosen this vet as they are very experienced with neutering - that’s what I am worried about - the fighting. I will not have room long term for two cages - I had pigs in the past and no issues but these two were horrific and then one died very young. I am concerned that will be fine for a few months and then it will be a nightmare
 
My sow Flora was bullied at her previous home by the top sow there and prevented from eating. She came to live here with George and gained weight. George is the top pig although you might not notice it. When Louise went in with them I hoped there would be no trouble but Flora straight off bullied Louise - and for absolutely no reason as Louise immediately collapses if challenged by so much as a passing breeze! The only experience Flora had was bully or be bullied so it was a hard ride at first but luckily no nipping or hair pulling - in fact nothing more than a hard stare or a nose bump. If your boy has had to fight before he might think he has to fight again with a new boy. Who knows what goes on in their heads? I think history counts...

George was a third brother who was apparently bullied by the other two. I thought he must have been the smallest but Blue Cross said he was the biggest but also very timid. One day he was cornered and had to fight, and he hurt the attackers so they had to be split - indeed they should probably have been split long before it came to that. They wanted him to be neutered and homed with sows just in case a different boar brought it all back. Until Louise arrived he was the most timid pig I ever had but he's such a gent with the girls and loves nothing more than standing round the bowl together taking turns to get a pellet 💕
 
Boars absolutely can be bonded at any age - I have a boar pair myself - and more boar pairs make it together
than not. Any bond comes down to compatibility so finding the right piggy to become with is incredibly important. Nobody can say with certainty though that when the baby becomes a hormonal teen that things won’t change.

How old is the piggy you already have?
Do you have any other piggies?

A Comprehensive Guide to Guinea Pig Boars
Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated social behaviours and bonding dynamics
Boars: Teenage, Bullying, Fighting, Fall-outs And What Next?
 
Hello. I bonded a boar who was still a teenager with a baby. It was absolutely fine. The baby just wanted to be with someone. Now the baby is nearly 1 they are really happy. I’m not out of the woods yet as they can still have hormonal spikes until about 16 months. But alls well at the moment. I would be worried about the operation so don’t think I’d neuter. But it’s a personal choice. Good luck. Hope you can find a buddy for your piggy soon.

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Boars absolutely can be bonded at any age - I have a boar pair myself - and more boar pairs make it together
than not. Any bond comes down to compatibility so finding the right piggy to become with is incredibly important. Nobody can say with certainty though that when the baby becomes a hormonal teen that things won’t change.

How old is the piggy you already have?
Do you have any other piggies?

A Comprehensive Guide to Guinea Pig Boars
Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated social behaviours and bonding dynamics
Boars: Teenage, Bullying, Fighting, Fall-outs And What Next?
14 months
 
At that age he is just coming towards the end of his teens. His hormones will still be in play just not as much as at the height (around 6 months).
If you would rather try a boar friend then it’s safest to go to a rescue centre and have them help you find a compatible boar for him - he can choose his own friend. It could take trying a few different boars before he finds one he likes - he may find an older boar he gets on well with.

Neutering is of course a very good option. Neutered boar/sow bonds do still come down to compatibility, but they tend to be more stable for the long term
 
Boars absolutely can be bonded at any age - I have a boar pair myself - and more boar pairs make it together
than not. Any bond comes down to compatibility so finding the right piggy to become with is incredibly important. Nobody can say with certainty though that when the baby becomes a hormonal teen that things won’t change.

How old is the piggy you already have?
Do you have any other piggies?

A Comprehensive Guide to Guinea Pig Boars
Bonding and Interaction: Illustrated social behaviours and bonding dynamics
Boars: Teenage, Bullying, Fighting, Fall-outs And What Next?
14 months - perhaps if I get a bigger cage first / just so upset as I really don’t know what’s best
 
Don’t be upset - we can support you.

If you have two boars you need a lot of space - a cage measuring 180x60cm (6ft x 2ft) or a 5x2 c&c is recommended.

Personally if I had a young single boar, then I’d neuter him now. You may still find that he bonds with a boar and is perfectly happy but if you try him with a couple of boars and none work out then you’ve got the option (once he is six weeks post neuter) of trying with sows.
I do have a boar pair myself. They are 3 and a half years old and it’s always on my mind as to what I’m going to do when one passes and I’m left with a single, older, unneutered boar. Older boars can successfully be neutered but of course it’s more of a concern the older they get.
 
Don’t be upset - we can support you.

If you have two boars you need a lot of space - a cage measuring 180x60cm (6ft x 2ft) or a 5x2 c&c is recommended.

Personally if I had a young single boar, then I’d neuter him now. You may still find that he bonds with a boar and is perfectly happy but if you try him with a couple of boars and none work out then you’ve got the option (once he is six weeks post neuter) of trying with sows.
I do have a boar pair myself. They are 3 and a half years old and it’s always on my mind as to what I’m going to do when one passes and I’m left with a single, older, unneutered boar. Older boars can successfully be neutered but of course it’s more of a concern the older they get.
He did fight with his friend as the other one seemed dominant but he retaliated so I am concerned about him doing that. I am getting a larger cage. Would you go ahead or postpone it until I have a larger cage? What are your thoughts on a baby ?
 
Boar pairs do certainly need more room to keep the peace so I'd get the bigger cage first as introducing an established pair into a new home will trigger hierarchy behaviours all over again - but any pig group benefits from as much space as we can possibly give them (but of course I would say that!) It sounds from your other postings that you've had a traumatic time but as long as you're aiming to pair him with someone you're doing the right thing! Both of your choices are 'right' but I understand that you're trying to do the best for him and what you think he wants. I suspect my George, with the benefit of hindsight, would say he was very happy to trade his nuts for lady companions. You'd have a long wait though, even after the op there would be 6 weeks until he was definitely sterile.

From a 'guinea-pigitarian' point of view it's much easier to rehome the rescued sows and pair up sow babies with mums, sisters etc so the poor boars can get a bit left out and be lonely for longer. There are some forum members with multiple pairs of boars and singleton boar neighbours and it warms the heart that these guys have a dedicated group of boar lovers to cheer their corner so they can be living their best lives. I bet rescues are delighted when someone comes in asking for boars. There's a lot of love to go round.

If you have a long-ish wait for your neutering op you could always try and get him boar-dated in the meantime. If it works out you can cancel the op, if it doesn't you have a fall back position. And he'll get to meet a few more piggies along the way (albeit briefly) which might give you more of an idea about how he'll react to new males. Lockdown is over and the numbers of animals given up to rescues is already increasing...

If you go in for a pet-shop baby double-check the sex yourself. And then check it again!
 
Boar pairs do certainly need more room to keep the peace so I'd get the bigger cage first as introducing an established pair into a new home will trigger hierarchy behaviours all over again - but any pig group benefits from as much space as we can possibly give them (but of course I would say that!) It sounds from your other postings that you've had a traumatic time but as long as you're aiming to pair him with someone you're doing the right thing! Both of your choices are 'right' but I understand that you're trying to do the best for him and what you think he wants. I suspect my George, with the benefit of hindsight, would say he was very happy to trade his nuts for lady companions. You'd have a long wait though, even after the op there would be 6 weeks until he was definitely sterile.

From a 'guinea-pigitarian' point of view it's much easier to rehome the rescued sows and pair up sow babies with mums, sisters etc so the poor boars can get a bit left out and be lonely for longer. There are some forum members with multiple pairs of boars and singleton boar neighbours and it warms the heart that these guys have a dedicated group of boar lovers to cheer their corner so they can be living their best lives. I bet rescues are delighted when someone comes in asking for boars. There's a lot of love to go round.

If you have a long-ish wait for your neutering op you could always try and get him boar-dated in the meantime. If it works out you can cancel the op, if it doesn't you have a fall back position. And he'll get to meet a few more piggies along the way (albeit briefly) which might give you more of an idea about how he'll react to new males. Lockdown is over and the numbers of animals given up to rescues is already increasing...

If you go in for a pet-shop baby double-check the sex yourself. And then check it again!
It’s today but I think the cage may be the right thing first and I have a poorly child with symptoms that could be either cold or Covid so not sure a vet will want to see me anyway. Sign him up for boar dating and then rearrange the op if it doesn’t work. I had a pair of boars before and they were brilliant none of this issue
 
You definitely need to make sure your cage is big enough before you bring home another boar. You don’t want to change boar territories once they are settled as that can really unsettle things

I love boar pairs and my plan would be to only have boar pairs but if I had young boars again I would seriously consider neutering as youngsters so I had options If one ended up alone
 
You definitely need to make sure your cage is big enough before you bring home another boar. You don’t want to change boar territories once they are settled as that can really unsettle things

I love boar pairs and my plan would be to only have boar pairs but if I had young boars again I would seriously consider neutering as youngsters so I had options If one ended up alone
I love boar pairs too
 
I can’t add anything but want to assure you of my support.
You love your boy and want the best for him.
You will know in your heart what is the best decision.
Pause - breathe and reflect.
 
I can’t add anything but want to assure you of my support.
You love your boy and want the best for him.
You will know in your heart what is the best decision.
Pause - breathe and reflect.
In my heart I knew it was the right decision (he’s lonely) but I cried a lot before I could do it. Post op - he’s very quiet- not eating and drinking - he is on strong pain relief so a bit spaced out - I will be giving him some water and more pain relief in a few minutes. Very sad for him but I guess this is what happens and then he will be fine xx thank you to everyone for their support
 
How is he doing today?

If he's not eating anything at all you will need to start syringe-feeding him either 'recovery' food like Critical Care which comes as a powder and you mix it into a slurry, or just soaked pellets that have been mushed up. Sometimes they will only eat veggies to begin with (grass is very tempting for them if you can get some that hasn't been peed on). I hope he's picked up a bit overnight. If they have an opioid painkiller that can put them off their food until it wears off. You've both been very brave 💕
 
It does take a few days to recover from an op.
As @Free Ranger has said you may well need to syringe feed him for a while.
I also place a small dish of Critical Care with a bit of mashed banana added in the cage so he can help himself.
Raw oats, grated carrot and grated sweet potato are also good for recovering piggies- at least my lot think so.

My boy Micah was neutered as a 3 month old and after a slightly rocky start recovered well. He is now a very happy husboar with 2 wives.
 
Where do I get critical care recovery food from? He smells of wee too. I have been syringe feeding (squished pellets) and water but he took a bit of hay tonight. No squeaking but to be expected . He has to have pain relief for a week they say. I can get grass from the garden too. Thank you Free Ranger, I feel cruel and am looking forward to him having his new friends or friend x Trying to think about that now - getting new cage ready so can start either adoption or getting a female in six weeks.
 
Where do I get critical care recovery food from? He smells of wee too. I have been syringe feeding (squished pellets) and water but he took a bit of hay tonight. No squeaking but to be expected . He has to have pain relief for a week they say. I can get grass from the garden too. Thank you Free Ranger, I feel cruel and am looking forward to him having his new friends or friend x Trying to think about that now - getting new cage ready so can start either adoption or getting a female in six weeks.

Mushed pellets are fine to syringe feed. You can get critical care from Amazon, sometimes pet shops have it or the vets might keep some for sale

This guide may also help you
Tips For Post-operative Care
 
You could try phoning round any local vets to see what they stock in the short term... they'll probably have to 'register' piggy but they can just sell it over the counter because it's not medicine. We got 'Recovery' from our vet.

We've tried Science Selective Recovery, Oxbow Critical Care (Green packet, aniseed flavour) and Oxbow Crit Care 'Fine Grind' (Brown packet, papaya flavour). The fine grind was the most popular for us (and smoothest to syringe), the Recovery was second - another member vouches for Emeraid (Herbivore or Sustain) as her piggy's preference. It depends on what you can get hold of easily. My pigs hated the green packet CC but others go for it. You can mix any VitC or probiotic that you might be giving into the slurry mix. Don't syringe plain water/liquid - it is too easy to inhale and cause lung problems on top of everything else (and it is so easily done 😔) If you are worried about liquid try offering cucumber - even if it's just the middle bit smooshed up with fingers.

What antibiotic and pain relief did you get - and what dose?
 
Oh sorry, he had his check up today and healing nicely but he’s lost a lot of weight as I suspected. He’s depressed and feeling lonely they think. He’s on a packet from vet and I have also bought some watery food (cucumber/ watermelon) to make sure he gets some liquid although they say he’s not dehydrated but his poo is quite dry. He took some normal mushed food tonight (twice actually) so that was good. Going to start the vet food in the morning and come home from work at lunch to give him his lunch time dose.
I am planning of setting up his new cage and getting his friend earlier but having them in two cages initially so they can hear each other - talk but not be together. Is that a bad idea?
 
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