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Squeaking a little when weeing

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Today he hasn't squeaked at all and he has done two wees since ive come home from work. mallethead So i shall speak to Mark the vet tomorrow and see what he says and then go from there.

Hopefully i will bring back good news in a few days :)
 
I phoned the vets today and Mark suggested a xray just to be sure. I'm so scared and worried, he is booked in for Monday and Joey is able to go with him too. I'm thinking of having the day off work 'sick' or going in late.

He hasn't squeaked today and he has done lots of wee and a huge one on the floor! He's even drinking more and spent quite a long time at the water bottle earlier. :)

I feel sick at the thought of Monday and i told the vet that i was worried about him having GA if stones are present as he sometimes has snuffly breathing. They will be doing a xray with a 'sniff of gas, to relax him' thats what Mark said on the phone. I'm just hoping that it isnt stones and if it is i will be praying that Gizmo will be able to take the anaesthetic, i feel like crying just thinking about it. :(
 
Joey&Gizmo said:
I phoned the vets today and Mark suggested a xray just to be sure. I'm so scared and worried, he is booked in for Monday and Joey is able to go with him too. I'm thinking of having the day off work 'sick' or going in late.

He hasn't squeaked today and he has done lots of wee and a huge one on the floor! He's even drinking more and spent quite a long time at the water bottle earlier. :)

I feel sick at the thought of Monday and i told the vet that i was worried about him having GA if stones are present as he sometimes has snuffly breathing. They will be doing a xray with a 'sniff of gas, to relax him' thats what Mark said on the phone. I'm just hoping that it isnt stones and if it is i will be praying that Gizmo will be able to take the anaesthetic, i feel like crying just thinking about it. :(
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I am still convinced that gizmo has a bad infection. An xray however will at least put your mind At Rest. If he does have stones, worry about it then. I know it is easy for me to say but please do try and not worry yourself in to a stuper otherwise you will make yourself ill. Sending you lots of hugs xx
 
Aww thank you Claire, logically thinking i was telling myself that it was just a bad infection, as if he did have stones wouldnt he be squeaking all the time and have blood in his urine and not respond to the antibiotics etc?

I cant help but worry, but i do know that at least the xray will tell me for sure. x x
 
Oh, big hugs to all of you (gentle ones for Gizmo) from all of us. He'll be in good hands with Mark.
 
I'm not surprised you're worried, it's understandable, but at least you'll know and can go from there. You may well find that he's completely clear - I really hope so x
 
Ive got him the cow & gate juice so will see how that goes down later on!

He did one wee this morning with squeaking before i went to work and i noticed that it was quite white/yellow and was sludgy, as it felt quite gritty but it dried powdery. :( Then just now he done a wee and all clear no squeaking. Does anyone know if sludgy urine means stones or could it also be infection?

I'm just glad that he has kept his weight on and he weighs 1200g, he is also loving his food as always. :)

I hoping he has the all clear and I'm having a 'sick' day off work on Monday. rolleyes
 
Thanks, ive just been looking on guinea lynx at the reference section with stories about stones and almost all of them say that the pigs had bloody urine, so I'm hoping that if that is the case he may just have a bad infection. The waiting is the worst bit! :(
 
Just another update on how Gizmo is doing.

He has been on the metacam for over a week now and we went back to the vets on Tuesday. The vet had another feel of Gizmo's bladder and he said that it all feels good.

But he is still squeaking when he does small wees, not big wees if that makes sense. So the vet said to continue the metacam and gave me more septrin and said to give him both for 3 days and see how he gets on. He does seem much better and ive not heard him squeak. The vet said the squeaking during the small wees is caused by the bladder being inflamed and making it feel like he needs to wee, but as there is no wee it hurts when he pushes.

Also the vet said that to see the benefits of the metacam he must be on it continuously for one month so he is staying on that and he said its good for his arthritis.
The vet thinks that its more likely to be cystitis as their wasnt any stones on his xray. He also suggested that i give him vit c humans drinks 20ml a day as this can help heal the bladder after uti's etc.

I'm still a little confused on if i should keep him on the septrin, as the vet said give it to him for 3 days see how he is and then only use it when needed. I think i should ring them tomorrow and hope that Mark is on duty. As logically wouldnt it be best to keep him on it for a week and then see what he is like after its stopped? As the vet said in a ideal world they could have done a biopsy of his bladder but because of his poor chest its a no no as it would be too risky and they may not even find anything.

He is fine in himself, still cheeky and he has gained 75g which the vet was very pleased about. :)

Anyone got any advice?
 
I am pleased to hear that Gizmo has improved :) I don't really have any advise but if you are still uncertain about anything, I agree that you should discuss these concerns with Mark.
All I can say is that with Eliza, my vet always asked me to take a urine sample in just before the Septrin ran out so if there was still blood present, he could prescribe her another course of antibiotics without having to stop the treatment and then start it again. I think I may have mentioned it before but Eliza was on the Septrin continuosly for 4 weeks until her infection cleared up xx
 
Thanks Claire. He has done loads of wees today and no squeaking at all. Maybe the metacam is working. :) He wasnt in today so I will ring Mark on monday now. I havent given him anymore septrin as the 3 days was yesterday but i do have 15mls left of it so if he starts squeaking again i will start it back up.

He dosent have any blood etc in his urine. mallethead

x x
 
Another update.

Its been a month now since Gizmo had his xray and started the metacam. But he does still squeak once or twice a day when weeing. I have tested his urine and all is normal, no grittiness or smelly urine. He has put on weight and stayed at a steady weight and he is very happy in himself eating,drinking and popcorning, he also poops fine.

I really dont know what to do next? Any suggestions? As we have tried the septrin and metacam together and he is still the same. Ive read about Interstitial Cystitis and i am thinking he may have this. Here is the link from guinea lynx about the condition.
http://www.guinealynx.info/records/viewtopic.php?t=21

Also on guinea lynx they have no updated there bladder stone page which is helpful as it now includes xrays of stones and sludge in the bladder.
 
Claire W said:
I'm sorry that Gizmo is still squeaking :( I'm afraid I really do not know what to suggest other than speaking to your vet again xx
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He just wanted me to keep him on the metacam, as his arthritis was very bad and he seems to think that could be the reason.

Maybe i should get another xray done? Maybe stones have formed now, i just dont know. As i thought that if it was stones then he would be bleeding and be in alot of pain? As the vet said one or two squeaks is good improvement but if he starts leaking or getting worse to take him back as that could be an indicator of stones, when blood etc is present and on his 'bad' days to give the septrin and metacam.

mallethead
 
Claire W said:
I *think* there would be blood in the urine if there were stones present xx
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Thats what the vet told me! So i am thinking either he has a very stubborn uti, cystitis or that Interstitial Cystitis thats is on guinea lynx, which said that there is no treatment or cure, just use metacam for pain relief. Or his arthritis! So many things to choose from. :))

I'm just glad that he is very happy and his weight has stayed the same.

I suppose only time will tell as he went from squeaking with every wee to every other and now once or twice a day.

Thanks for being there and offering advice i really do appreciate it. :(|)
 
Sorry to hear he's still having trouble. Still squeaking here too...

We're now trying Potter's Tabritis tablets for Charlie's arthritis. Not sure if they'll do any good but anything is worth a try. You can get them in Boots. Half a tablet once a day mixed with a bit of water.

x

PS. Charlie didn't have visible blood in his urine when he had his stones
 
Sorry Gizmo is still suffering. I really feel for you, as I've been there myself x

I've probably mentioned it earlier on this thread but if I were you I'd consider trying Feline Cystease S. They're supplements given to cats with stubborn cystitis. My Vet recommended this for my guinea pig and I've also heard of others having a great deal of success giving it to guinea pigs with stubborn cystitis symptoms & I.C. (only after stones have been ruled out).

http://www.vetuk.co.uk/digestive-su...cystitis-glucosamine-sprinkle-capsules-p-1146

It's definitely worth asking your Vet about this. There's also a similar product on the market, called Cystaid, but you'll find Cystease is significantly cheaper.

So far I haven't needed to use this type of treatment for my own pig but wouldn't hesitate to try it if his symptoms flare up again.
 
Thanks Sarah and Missy.

He is on the metacam for his arthritis and does seem better on it than without it.

Ive been away for a few days and my mum has been looking after them both and she swears that he HASNT squeaked at all, but when i sat near their cage watching them he done a wee and squeaked. mallethead I will give the vets a ring on Monday and ask about the Feline Cystease S. Gizmo dosent have any blood is his urine either and all tests were normal. I just wish he was back to normal as this has been going on since Easter! :(

What medication is Charlie on Sarah?

:)
 
It's more a case of what medication isn't he on!

In the morning he has Metacam, Septrin (he's had blood in his wee for the past few days so back on antibiotics) and Uriflow.

When I get back from work he has Cystopurin.

In the evening he has half of a Potters Tabritis tablet.

Later in the evening he has another dose of Septrin and Uriflow.

He also has 1-2 pills of calcarea carbonica in his water bottle per week (homeopathic remedy suggested by vet).

All water is mixed with Cow&Gate juice. He drinks a lot more by himself now so have cut down syringing fluids and to be honest it hasn't really made any difference.

He still squeaks sometimes when weeing and is very small these days (just over 800g), but he seems happy enough, eats everything he's given and squeaks for more. So unless he shows signs of getting worse, I'm happy for him to carry on as he is.

Has all been going on since Easter here too! And I daren't add up all the money I've spent....!

Sarah x
 
I also gave Yossi a course of Cystopurin, every day for almost 2 weeks. I know many people give human cystitis remedies to their pigs but I held off for ages as I wasn't sure I wanted to use a human treatment at first, but gave it a try when all else failed and the squeaking persisted.

I'd heard of a Rodentologist recommending human preparations (for a longer than usual course) in the treatment of stubborn cystitis/IC - see Laura's post passing on this advice, in the link below. (Sadly the poorly pig in this particular thread didn't recover but it sounds like it was a very long-running and complicated problem and it's difficult to know what exactly was wrong with him - there may have been several other factors so please don't assume his problems are the same as Gizmo's. The Rodentologist quoted has a very high success rate treating this type of problem which I find very encouraging!)

I have to say Yossi's symptoms did improve after the Cystopurin but of course I'll never know if it was directly as a result of the Cystopurin, as Yossi was also on other meds at the time (Septrin & Metacam). I would try it again though, if necessary, combined with the Cystease next time. I've heard that potassium citrate Cystitis preparations are better to use than the sodium citrate ones but not exactly sure why.

http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=41809&page=2

Btw if anyone is on the look out for the Cow & Gate pure baby juice concentrate Sarah mentions, I've found a summer fruits version in Morrison's (in addition to the blackcurrant & apple version widely available elsewhere). I'm also using these juices at the moment and have found them invaluable in trying to get Yossi to drink.
 
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My goodness Sarah Charlie is on alot of medication. Have you seen any improvement at all? As the vet advised me that i wouldnt see an improvement until Gizmo had been on the metacam for at least one month. But he is still the same after just over a month. The vet also said that aslong as he isnt deteriorating or stops eating or loses weight to continue to use the metacam and give the septrin when needed as he doesn't have any blood in his urine.

What is Cystopurin and where can i get it from? Also what is the dose?

Ive written down the name of the cat medication as I'm going to speak to the vet tomorrow and hopefully he will give me further advise too.

Thank you both for sharing your information and advise. :)
 
Joey&Gizmo said:
What is Cystopurin and where can i get it from? Also what is the dose?

Ive written down the name of the cat medication as I'm going to speak to the vet tomorrow and hopefully he will give me further advise too.
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Cystopurin is just a human cystitis preparation. You can buy it in chemists but I find it's cheaper in supermarkets:

http://www.boots.com/en/Cystopurin-... Base-_---_-Cystopurin 3g Granules 6 Sachets

I'm not really sure what Vets would generally tend to think about giving something like Cystopurin to guineas. I gave it to Yossi without asking my Vet first (just as it was inbetween visits and I trusted the Rodentologist's recommendation) but I did tell the Vet on our next visit and she didn't really say much, just that it's hard to know what had made the difference as he was trying several different treatments. She certainly wasn't shocked or horrified or anything!

As far as dosage goes, I just mixed it up as per instructed for 'human' strength and gave as much as he would take, aiming for one sachet over 2 days if at all possible. It's a hell of a lot of fluids but I followed what Laura's post said, just using Cystopurin instead of Cystemme (which I couldn't find). Yossi doesn't drink for himself anyway, so pretty much all fluid he had over this period of time (12 days, I think) was this Cystopurin drink.

Good luck speaking to the Vet. If he's unfamiliar with "Cystease" it'd be worth mentioning that it contains the same ingredient as "Cystaid", as this is extremely widely used. Let us know how you get on x
 
I will let you know what the vet says. :)

Thanks for adding the info about the Cystopurin, i shall see if i can purchase some from the supermarket tomorrow means they are shut now.
 
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