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okay zoe had her surgery nearly 2 months ago as you know. with zoe's soft poops, we have her in her cage with jessie with a cooling rack seperating them. zoe is eating grass, hay, pellets and mix and parsley. just wondering how long the cooling rack should stay there. jessie is a bossy paws especially when on heat and i don't want zoe stressed. so any advice would be appreciated. they have tried to get into each other but seem happy as they are. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: everytime i add something to zoe's diet 3 days later her poops go soft. have tried cauliflower, celery leaf, carrot,rocket, corriander, basil,carrot tops, will try something again when this damn heat wave ends. thanks again. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
Awwww bless 0:) Hope Zoe stays in the clear - you may just have to start giving her more hay and water than veggies that make her poo soft :-\

Is there a certain veggie/fruit that you have noticed that it only happenes when that is given to her ?
 
Does the vet ever say why he thinks Zoe's poops are still soft? It seems so long that poor Zoe has been pooping soft. I would think more of the dry stuff would help. (the hay and pellets). I feel sorry for poor little Zoe. I hope she's pooping normally soon! I'm sure she and little Jessie are missing being close! Get better soon Zoe! :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
the vet told us zoe's soft poops are due to all the terramycin injections she had before the surgery-not once did she get probiotics and i had never heard of them of probiotics either. :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: the vet also said zoe's soft poops are due to the drugs used in the surgery and because of the surgery. as you know zoe had her reproductive organs removed so her hormones are all over the place, like a piggy menopause.
have notice that celery leaves, corriander, basil, rocket, carrots, carrot tops, upset her by day 3(have to add a veg slowly over 3 days) cauilfower upset her straight away. the vet is of the opinion that it could be 6 months before zoe's tummy settles if it does at all. she may have to be on grass and hay for the rest of her life.
once this damn heat wave ends i will try something else, have just started her on timothy hay cut into small pieces mixed in with timothy pellets both from oxbow so am hoping these help her tummy too. i chop the hay so that she thinks it is mix, so far(touching wood) it is working and zoe thinks the hay is a mix. zoe and jessie are in the same box but seperated by a cooling rack. will keep you updated, oh yes, tried the bananna in the skin and over 4 days she had soft poops for one of the days. thanks for your replies and well wishes. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
aww bless her, she's such a little fighter :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
Gosh Mary you're doing such a great job with her :-* Yeah I think just try your veggies like you have been and keep her mainly on the dry stuff (pellets hay etc.) and just stick to the veggies that she's ok with O0 Well, do you think she's strong enough to stick up for herself etc.? Has the vet given you any indication on when they can go back together? I would say if he/she hasn't told you, if you think she's up to it, try it slowly and maybe get jessie out to give her her veggies, so she still gets plenty, this is what i used to do if pansy got bloat and couldn't have her veggies, i used to get mimi out on her own so she still got plenty :'( :-* :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: Aww hoping little Zoe can get her friend back soon :smitten:
And particularly if the vet has said she may never go back to having lots of veggies, you can't wait forever, but only you really know when you think they're ready :smitten: :smitten:
 
i think for now they will have to be in the same cage but with the cooling rack between them. problem with jessie is she won't eat veggies! :tickedoff: :tickedoff: she persisting with her though. the vet wanted them back together after zoe's stitches came out but then zoe got the soft poops. will try again with zoe and veggies when the weather cools down if it ever does and keep monitoring zoe's weight. problem with zoe is she is too laid back to fight or stand up for herself. she's just a cute teddy bear. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :-* :-* :-* so it is just a waiting game. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
have read alot on here about boys being impacted am i am wondering to girls get impacted too? :-\ :-\ :-\ as zoe usually once a day will have what is a soft poop just sitting there not moving, but with a gentle squeeze it comes out. when i do squeeze zoe whinges. :'( :'( :'( it is about the same consitency(sp) as toothpaste, still green in colour but this might because of the grass and timothy hay. any advice would be appreciated she is eating grass, hay, parsley, timothy hay, pellets, drinking water and is being syringed water too. thanking you :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: and zoe sends :-* :-* :-*
 
i don't think girlies can get impacted. :-\ what happens is the rectum stretches and retains the faeces i think, and the muscles are weak or something ? i've never heard of a girlie getting it O0 i don't think you actually see the poo either :-\
Poor little zoe :( sending hugs and kisses to you and her, keep up the good work, you're doing great, i don't know how you cope :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
AWWWW I do hope she is better soon , :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: Sending hugs and Cuddles :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
another update, have noticed with zoe, she is dirty at the 9.00am feed yet there is NO change in her diet! i don't know if it was a once off but today at 9.00am she was wet from urine, whether this means something is wrong or whether she just felt like laying in it don't know. ? ? ? zoe is still getting oaten hay, grass, parsley, timothy hay and oxbow pellets. now i read on another thread that grass is rich. could this be causing zoe's problem? too much grass? should i try her on some straw or something else or play it by ear? any help would be appreciated. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: we feed zoe at 9.00am, 2.00pm, 9.00pm and 2.00am she gets rougly 20 blades of grass, one small bit of parsley. it is at the 2.00pm feed we give a small amount of timothy hay and pellets mixed together in a seperate bowl. sending you hugs and cuddles :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: girls send :-* :-* :-* this morning she was really soft and this time wet! when zoe first took ill it was her urinating herself that first made us take her to the vet way back in october 2007. so again we are in concern mode! :'( :'( :'(
 
Oh precious little Zoe how you worry your mummy and daddy ::) ::) ::)
Maybe ease off the grass for a day and offer more of the hay and pellets and see if this settles her down :)
Sending mega healing wheeks and loves to this special little lady :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
hello all,
here is a copy of the email i sent my vet as here it is 9.51pm tuesday night. hoping she can offer some advice;
hello Kirsten,

just an update to let you know zoe'ws soft poops are getting worse and she has started to either urinate herself again or lay in it. i say again as her wetting herslef is what made us take her to the vet in the first place way back in october. we have decided for now to stop the timothy hay and pellets and see if that makes a differnce, if not we will stop the grass as it may be too rich for her. si far zoe is only getting grass, oaten hay, parsley, at 9.00am, 2.00pm. 9.00pm and 2.00am and at the 2.00pm she gets timothy hay and pellets. everytime she gets feed she gets a syringe of preboiled water with vitamin C in it. at present with this heat wave we are in we are scared she will get dehydrated as her poops have less shape than before. have been weighing her and she is still hovering around the 2lbs mark or 900grams. if you wish to see her please let us know. thanks for reading this.


hoping little zoe settles down soon if she does. any help would be gratefully appreciated. :'( :'( :'( thank you :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
oh gosh you are going through it you and zoe! :'( i can't really suggest anything, but just want you to know i'm here if you want a chat and thinking of you and zoe and praying that she'll really begin to make a good recovery :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: ((hugs and piggie kisses))) the only thing i can think of is, try without grass and see if it helps, it is quite rich, but very good for them :smitten:
 
all I can do is send :smitten: and {hugs} to you and zoe. I agree try easing off the grass, too much can easily cause soft poops. I would limit it to a tiny amount once a day, or a larger amount every other day. I think you're doing a really great job with her :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
Any update on Zoe? :) Hoping she's stopped the runny poos and getting wee on her stuff :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
You're doing great (hugs) :smitten:
 
okay, zoe's poops are a bit more firmer, though really smelly! xx0 she hasn't wet herself since 9.00am yesterday morning so hoping it was a one of or she laid in it. i thought of stopping the timothy hay and pellets as her poops have gotten worse since we started them. or maybe it's cause she has been on grass for 2 months. was wondering what is in critical care and whether it is worth getting some or some baby food? i am at my wits end as to what to do or what to feed her. if i cut the grass out then what do i feed her to replace it? can't just give her parsley. hoping though i doubt it whether the vet will have any ideas. she is very sore down there as she squeals everytime i clean there. :'( :'( :'( i seem to be the only one worried as zoe seems fine in herself but i know how quickily they can go down hill. any suggestions welcome. thank you for all the well wishes and replies. :smitten: :smitten:
 
aww i'm glad she hasn't wet herself again, she probably just lay in it, they do it from time to time! ::) And also glad her poos seem firmer :smitten: well good question, is she having plenty of hay? Umm Critical care has timothy grass meal, soya hulls, wheat germ, oat hulls and bran, wheat middlings, soya protein concentrate, salt, sugar, cane mollasses, yeast, vitamins and minerals in! (i'm not a phycho, i don't know it off by heart, i'm reading it off a packet!) 98) ;D it's worth a try, if you can get hold of it, it's really great stuff O0 sending hugs and kisses for your girlies :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
it would take at least 10 days for the to c&c get here as they are in queensland and i'm in south australia. been having thoughts about whether it would be kinder to let zoe go. it pains me to say it let alone write it. she doesn't appear to be suffering nor concerned but i am wondering whether she will ever get better? i know my vet said it could take up to 6 months for zoe's tummy to settle and hormones etc but it has been 2 months and there has been no improvement at all. since my last post we have had her out twice and both times soft poops one really soft and one bit firmer. can only get cricitcal care from a vet or oxbow here in south austrlaia it is not available on line. so will look into it. i am just wondering what would be best for zoe! will see how she goes and will look into the c&c and cut down on the grass and see how we go.
so today we'll NOT put oaten hay in as bedding will use straw, will put oaten hay in hay rack as usual,cut down the grass, and give her timothy hay and pellets as usual, will look into critical care and see how zoe goes. have asked the vet for probiotics but she won't give me any as she feels it is the hormones from surgery like piggy menopause. so what can i do? zoe does seem quiter but that might be due to the heat. will give it some serious thought and see what happens. thanks for all your replies and well wishes. :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
aww hunni, don't think about that yet, see how it goes for a bit longer, if she's happy, maybe it's not necissary :-* i would think the vet would suggest it if she thought it wasn't fair, i know what you mean though :smitten: :smitten: (((hugs))) :smitten: :smitten:
 
messaged maryh and she reminded me that zoe is a fighter and if she hasn't given up then we shouldn't either! so like rocky in all the movies we are going to fight and hoping in time zoe gets better. if not then as long as she is not suffering we'll make her as happy as we can! :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: thanks again! you are a wonderful lot her crazy at times but wonderful and so supportive! at present i am in tears but bless you all! :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
Aw keep your chin up Mary, fingers crossed for poor little Zoe! You're doing so well looking after her, like the vet said it could take 6 months for her to recover.

Sending you big hugs from me and the boys!
 
aww mary don't consider that now, as long as she's happy you shouldn't O0 (((massive hugs))) it's so hard when they're ill i can't imagine going through what you are for so long, you're doing amazingly and are the best mummy ever! :smitten: :smitten:
chin up, you're making her as happy and comfortable as anyone could be and i'm sure she doesn't mind too much or you'd tell O0
Huge hugs! you're doing great, no-one could ask anymore of you :smitten:
 
Hi

Hope Zoe is okay.

We give our guinea pigs gerty guinea, greens, hay on a morning, cucumber at lunch time and then at 9.00p.m. they get there suppers which is normally cucumber, lettuce not iceburg, celery and rocket.
Sophie the guinea pig also has problems and sometimes is wet, so we give her a course of baytril for 5 days as instructed by the vet, this improves.
We once had a guinea pig that did very soft droppings, and the vet said to put them onto a high fibre diet, and this improved.

Jaye
 
Gee Choloe, I just checked in and am so sorry to see Zoe is still not back to normal yet. You poor thing. My heart breaks for you and Zoe. :'( :'( I know how I felt with Ricky and he was not nearly as sick as poor little Zoe. You are very brave. The vet prescribed the critical care mix for Ricky when he wouldn't eat. It worked well for him. He seemed to like it. Did you ask the vet for it? It did make his poop green. I don't know if it will help her going mushy, but it will certainly help her get all the vitamins she needs while she's not feeling well. Can the vet tell you what to put on her little butt so it doesn't hurt so much? The poor little girl. I really wish there was something I could do. I tell you, this could really put your life on stand still until your pet gets better. It's hard to think about anything else. Have you noticed anymore urine on her? I do hope it was just something she sat in. Poor thing. Well, here's some kisses and love sent to little Zoe... :-* :smitten: :-* :smitten: :-* :smitten:
I'll check back tomorrow for an update. Love to you and Zoe!
 
here is a zoe update for you all, sorry for worrying you all just a depressed moment!as i said to maryh if zoe is fighting then so will we! won't be using C&C as it is made from timothy grass and we strongly believe this is what is upsetting zoe. as zoe has had grass at 2.00am and 9.00am and i checked her before bed at 10.00am. again at 2.00pm, and again just now and she has been clean and each time she has had grass but not the T/hay or pellets. like someone said you only have life once if i let zoe go then i don't get a second chance. zoe seems happy-though quiet, and very affectionate, love it when she tips her head to the side for a kiss. i think when it came to push to shove we just couldn't let zoe go, we have come too far with her and feel even closer to her than before if that is at all possible. i am thinking i had a depression attack this morning with zoe, plus OH has picked up a bug, he has the runs and throwing up too, then there is the concern with the cats whose surgery is tuesday, and this damn heat. :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff: i am sorry for worrying you all, as i am still recovering from a virus myself. but i could NEVER let zoe go! she just means to much to us! thanks for your well wishes and thoughts sending thank you hugs and cuddles right back at you :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: thanks for keeping me sane! :-* :-* :-* the vet said it could take up to 6 months before her tummy gets better if at all! so we're in for the long haul! :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
awwwwwwwwww Mary as i said i know how you feel you just feel downright helpless and frustrated :-\ :tickedoff: :tickedoff: :tickedoff:
Keep up the great work this little girl can and will pull thru it's just going to take all your time and love :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: and yes it's worth it, as you said seeing her turn that little face to get kisses is all the thanks in the world you could get :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
((((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))))))))))))) for you and Ian and give the pusses a big scritch and scratch behind their ears :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
awww don't worry, i've given you a few shocks over the last few days! :o ::) ;D
Yeah, thats the spirit, as long as she's enjoying her life, it's fine O0 Well try and stick off the grass and timothy hay and pellets if you think thats whats causing it, it's just what else will she have? Maybe you should try and get some pellets that are alfalfa based? :-\
It's tough whe they're ill, i'm surprised you haven't had a crzy moment before, i know i would have! You're a great mummy, so chin up, and persevere, you'll get there, she's a fighter :-* :smitten: :smitten: :smitten:
 
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