Advice needed on Indoor/outdoor piggies please

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Hello all, I am new to this and hope this isn't too long winded. Up until recently we had 3 piggies all living outside in separate hutches, Bebe (a six year old female) was on her own because her sister had died. Casper (18 months) and Fudge (2 years) are two males who used to live together but had to be separated after fighting.

Thinking that she was too old to live outside we moved Bebe indoors in a Ferplast Cavie cage. She seemed to be quite content until one morning she had trouble walking. We took her to the vet and discovered that she had pododermatitis. This was so extensive that we had no choice but to have her put down. Obviously everyone was heartbroken to lose her. We have kept piggies for over 10 years and weren't even aware of this problem.
The cage was cleaned daily but the vet suggested that because Bebe was old she may have sat in her own wee for periods of time when a younger piggy would have been more active.

We decided to move one of the boy piggies inside to the new cage. He has been in there for about 2 weeks now and we are checking his feet religiously. Despite the fact that the cage is still cleaned daily, lined with newspaper and hay and shredded paper put in for a bed, one of Casper's feet looks slightly swollen.
I am so concerned that this might be the start of pododermatitis that I have put him back outside in his hutch in the daytime and will be bringing him in at night. Is this the right thing to do?
I don't know if the new cage is stopping him being active enough and if he would have been better off staying outside? Is hay the correct bedding or would something else be more comfortable? The piggies were both quite vocal when they lived outside but more subdued indoors - does this suggest that they prefer it outdoors or that they were just getting used to the family noises? If Casper would be healthier back in his hutch, do I need to get him gradually used to the change in temperature?

I would love to be able to house the two boys together as keeping them individually seems awfully lonely. Is there anyway to re-introduce them to each other? I read somewhere that the scent of a female causes them to fight and wondered if, now that we have no females, they may be friendlier to each other? Thanks for taking the time to read all this :)
 
Welcome to the forum Wendyapple and for such an informative initial post.

I'm so sorry to hear about Bebe, it sounds like she had a wonderful life with you all.

OK I will try to answer some of the queries you raised, although I might add one or two of my own along the way! What size is your indoor Ferplast cage (sorry not sure of the Ferplast sizes) and how much floor time does Casper get each day? When you bring piggies indoors they do take a little while to adjust to family life and all the different noises and comings and goings, so I would say Casper's behaviour is quite normal. Our lot have been indoors since November and they still run and hide when I initially open the playroom door, but once they realise it's me they all come out to see what goodies I have to offer?

As far as bedding indoors is concerned I have swapped over to fleece and vetbed - which the pigs absolutely love. Both stay dry to the touch, all the liquid is drawn through onto the paper underneath and so their feet stay dry. If Casper's foot is looking a little sore could you try changing his bedding? Chrissie at Gorgeous Guineas also does a foot cream which I have read rave reviews on so it might be worth having a look at her site.

You say Casper appears quieter now he is indoors, it's probably a combination of being in different surroundings and also that he can't hear his little friend and hence isn't chatting. I agree it is a shame he won't live with Fudge, but just being side by side can sometimes be enough for some boars. Have you tried giving them a "buddy" bath i.e. bathing them at the same time/one after each other so that they both smell the same? You could also try having two of everything so their is less chance of squabbling, but the most important thing is space - the bigger the better. Not having any girlies around may also make a difference, it is hard to tell with boys as I have two intact brothers living together above a gang of 5 girls and a neutred boar and they get on swimmingly!

As the colder months are now upon us I wouldn't put Casper back outside until the Spring and certainly don't bath any piggy that is outside at the moment unless you plan on keeping them indoors.

I hope that has been of some help - sorry it turned in to a bit of an essay! Look forward to chatting and I hope you can sort your boys out.:)
 
I have no idea if this affects piggies but human feet can swell when subjected to temp changes so maybe that is what the problem is?

If he is happy being outdoors i would leave him out there and see if his foot changes...
Bringing him in and out every day wont be good for him...

Hope your piggies foot gets better... :)
 
Update on Casper

Thanks for the replies. The Ferplast cage has a plastic bottom and a wire top and the base is about 70cm x 50cm so I don't think it would do if for more than one piggy.

I brought Casper back indoors this afternoon and he seems quite content with us. Even though the cage has a plastic 'room' in one corner where he can hide, he has happily sat in full view of everyone nibbling on his hay.

I had given Casper a shoe box to play in but have removed that now in case it was making the already small cage too crowded and discouraging movement, though he does love running in and out of boxes when he is in the garden.

Browsing through the site I have seen lots of photos of everyone's impressive piggy homes and I think that fleece bedding might be the answer to keep his feet dry and comfortable.

Perhaps in the spring when the weather is better I will try to re-introduce the two piggies when they are able to run on the grass together.

Thanks again for your answers, I am off to 'borrow' a fleece blanket from our youngest child to cut up to line Casper's bed :)
 
I have to say i only use newpaper and hay for my lot... I have 3 piggies living in a indoor cage at the moment with access to a little run for extra space...


They get cleaned out every other day... I just make sure there is lots of hay twice a day... the cage is covered all over in a good layer of hay and half of the cage there is enough hay (loads) for them to burrow in... they dont have any problem with their feet and dont sit in wee as it goes through the hay and down to the newspaper underneath...I top up the hay every morning and afternoon which gives them a fresh layer to run about on...
I find it so much easier to clean as i just roll up the newspaper and hay, wipe the bottom of the cage and put new stuff down... Takes me about 15min!:)
I dont know how much hay you put down but maybe increase the amount and see how that goes?
 
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