Advice on bonding for guinea after loss

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Hi all,

This is kinda a continuation of another thread and thank you for those who have already commented and supported. We lost our beautiful Tony Sunday morning. He was 8 months old and got poorly very suddenly.

It's been hard and I keep thinking "what if" though it has been helpful reading other people's experiences so thank you for sharing. I woke up at 4 panicking this morning and came to spend an hour sitting next to Chocolate's cage to keep each other company.

Chocolate seems ok so far, they had fallen out so were neighboars and while he was behaving a little different Saturday when Tony fell ill, since Tony passed, Chocolate is so far eating, drinking popcorning and toileting as normal.

We were thinking next steps for Chocolate as we don't want him to become depressed. Our thinking was neutering so he could have a bonded pair of sow friends, and I booked it for next Thursday but I'm now very nervous and not sure I want him to have an operation. And I also worry about the time frame of if this takes 8-10 weeks before he potentially has a friend. There is a rescue near us that can bond single males, and I'm wondering if this might get him a new friend sooner without having an op. I am nervous that they want to take him for 2 weeks while the do this and asked if it's possible over a couple of days.

I appreciate any and all advice and experiences for this sort of thing. We've asked how bonding works if it fails because I'm not sure about having 2 split cages again 🙈
 

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I’m sorry for your loss

There are pros and cons for both a single boar and being neutered to have a sow so it really comes down to which you are happier with

Yes bonding with single male will get him a friend quicker.
Bonding a teenage boar can be a bit trickier due to the hormones, not impossible, but trickier. Taking a lot of time to get the bonding right is worth it. As it’s being done at a rescue though, the risk is lessened due to the fact they will make sure the match is suitable.
While the wait to be safe post neutering is a long one, it can be worth it as boar/sow pairs don’t tend to fall out after bonding.

So they do residential bonding which is great. I know it’s difficult to have him away for so long but it will mean that you get back a properly bonded pair.
It takes two weeks for newly bonded piggies to finalise all the fine details of the new bond. A bonding can initially appear to be ok but if they fail to finalise those fine details, then it can fall apart at the last moments.

If those two weeks are done at the rescue, you can be sure the bond is a successful one.
(The change in environment from the rescue back to your home will cause them to have a period of dominance again but they will be so settled that the change shouldn’t cause much disruption)

Finding him a new friend could be done within a couple of days (assuming he bonds with one of the first ones he is tried with) but the sooner you bring them home, the more of the bonding you will be having happen at your house and the less security you will have that the bonding is a fully successful one until those two weeks are up.

As he is going to be bonded at a rescue, they won’t send him home with a piggy with whom he is not properly bonded. (As above, though this is why being gone for two weeks will give you the full reassurance that their bond is stable before they come home). You don’t have to worry about a split cage scenario particularly if they are fully bonded before you bring them home.
Should the worst happen and they fall out down the line, then the rescue would support you in taking the piggy back and trying another.
If he doesn’t match with the first piggy, they will try others until a match is found.
You have much more support and security with rescue bonding.
 
Hi

This guide here explains the difference between quick bonding and slow bonding: Rescues (Adoption and Dating), Shops, Breeders or Online? - What to consider when getting guinea pigs

Personally, if you have the option to slow bond, please go for it. It means fully bonded and stress tested instead of just taking first acceptance hurdle but no guarantee whether the bond will stand the distance as to leadership contest and territorial group establishment. A bond, especially with teenagers at the most difficult age for bonding could fail at any stage of the bonding process.
You are better off having the rescue do all the hard work instead of spending the first weeks after a speed date fretting at home as to whether the bond will keep. See the slow bonding as your boy going on a dating holiday and hopefully coming home with a new bestie. ;)

Keep the neutering as a plan B in case any bonding with up to three candidates at the rescue is not coming off. The waiting time for the bonding is 6 weeks post-op.
 
We're looking at Lancashire guinea pig rescue. There's another one Yorkshire way that's 2 hours drive if that's not too far for Chocolate to travel
 
Currently looking at Avalon guinea pig rescue or Bunny Jackpot Foundation if anyone has had any dealings with them. What's the furthest that would be ok for Chocolate to travel?
 
Have you looked at rescues Staffordshire way I'm not sure where in Manchester you are but think they would be closer for you? 🤔
 
Hello 😊

I wanted to give an update. We sent Chocolate to be neutered today, but while the vet put him under anesthesia, she became concerned with his chest, didn't proceed with the op and brought him round. She did a chest X-ray and was concerned with one of his lungs, so he's come home with 2 weeks of antibiotics and we've been told that it's best if we don't try to neuter him again. So we're going to try bonding him with a boar after he's finished his antibiotics.

We've changed his bedding from megazorb to fleece liners and he seems to be happy with them! We did it because we didn't want it to stick to his wound, but might as well use them still as they're super cute!

We also got a lovely engraved photo frame "Life's better with guinea pigs" and put Tony's picture in it 💙 gone but not forgotten.
 
Sending healing vibes to Chocolate 💙

Good luck with finding him a friend.
 
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