Are we doing everything right?

bodgerandbadger

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We recently got a pair of lovely guinea pigs from a private seller. They were just under 5 weeks old at the time of selling, but the home seemed a bit busy so I thought it would be best to take them there and then. We have this hutch https://www.amazon.co.uk/FeelGoodUK...ig+hutch&qid=1573762653&s=pet-supplies&sr=1-4 and use dust-extracted bedding to line.
We give them hay every day, PetsAtHome pellets and some greens (broccoli, parsley, grass). We have a hay tunnel with three entrances, a cardboard tube and a cosy. We've brought them inside for the winter. We change the water daily but the bottle leaks a lot, even when I do my best to create a vacuum inside the bottle (it's plastic, we might get a new one).

They have been skittish since day one, so we have tried to let them settle in a bit. Within a week they were comfortable with eating grass out of our hands. However, when we took them out and put them onto the floor in a play pen to do a full clean after one week, they became more frightened again. I've taken them out since into the play pen to let them run around, but they still stay in the cardboard tunnel that I use to transport them into the play pen with, even when I leave the room for a long time.
I've managed to hold one (Bodger) and stroke it whilst it eats grass, but the other (Badger) was very squirmy and didn't sit in my lap. Badger can run upstairs up the ramp, but Bodger hasn't been able to. They are about 6 and a half weeks now. I've noticed them chew on metal parts of the cage and the end of the bottle.

Are we doing everything right so far? Is there anything anyone would recommend? Handling more or the same?

Thanks in advance!
 
Welcome to the forum. We’d love to see some pictures of your piggies!
The fact that they will take food from your hands is great! It shows they are starting to trust you!

It is normal for baby piggies to be skittish and it can take them time to settle. They are prey animals so it is normal for them to not be comfortable with being handled. You say they became frightened again after going in the playpen - again, the change of environment would have been unsettling initially so, it is normal for them to be unsure.

Regarding the food, I attach a link below for the recommended daily veg intake. Please don’t feed broccoli or parsley too often - once a week at most. Feeding broccoli too much or too often can cause bloating and parsley is too high in calcium to be fed daily. Coriander is a better herb for daily feeding.

It can also take them a long time to learn how to use ramps. Guinea pigs aren’t natural climbers, they are ground roaming creatures and many are scared of heights. It is important to make sure the ramp isn’t too steep and that if has sides to help them feel more secure.

I have had a look at the hutch you have posted. 120cm x 60cm meets the minimum cage size requirement but bigger is always better.
If your piggies are boys then the hutch will be too small for them and lack of space an lead to fall outs particularly when they hit their teenage months (4-14 months of age). Two boys need at least a 140/150cm x 60cm cage or hutch. While they are inside, would it be possible to attach a permanent playpen to the front of the hutch to give them a little more room?

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Welcome to the forum.
You are well on the way to being a wonderful piggy slave.
@Piggies&buns has given you the links to some excellent guides.
These will be very helpful to you.
Please do carry on asking questions here - there’s always someone with an answer.

I love the names of your piggies and look forward to pictures
 
Thanks so much for your replies, appreciate it a lot.

Yes, we were concerned about the size of the hutch too, although it's sold as a rabbit hutch... We're going to move them up to the spare room and put the pen around them and leave their hutch open. Annoyingly, the hutch has a large gap underneath, so can't attach a pen to the front of it. Hopefully this will work though and they will make use of the space in their own time.

Good to know re: food too, thanks. I thought that was the case with some veggies, but another site said it was ok to give the ones that I listed daily.

I've just gone over to them with some hay and they've been coming out definitely thinking it's more exciting and then scurrying away when they realise the truth!

Should we try and stroke/handle each day? Or leave a couple more weeks?

Thanks again
 
Sounds like a good plan regarding giving them larger living space! The hutch definitely isn’t big enough for rabbits despite being sold as such 🙁.

Let them guide you regarding handling, do what they are comfortable with ie don’t chase them around to touch them etc. It is always great to start with them taking food from you, it builds trust.
 
This is what I did with my piggies' 2-floor hutch. You can put bricks down one of the doors of the hutch at the bottom as a step for them going to the attached run. I closed off the bottom with bricks as well so they won't go under the hutch (it's just easier for me not cleaning guinea pig poo and pee under the hutch as well haha).

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Sounds like a good plan regarding giving them larger living space! The hutch definitely isn’t big enough for rabbits despite being sold as such 🙁.

Let them guide you regarding handling, do what they are comfortable with ie don’t chase them around to touch them etc. It is always great to start with them taking food from you, it builds trust.

Thanks, that's really helpful about the handling. And yes, we're looking forward to the bigger area! My partner is a bit gutted he didn't come across this before as he loves DIY... Better now than not at all!
 
This is what I did with my piggies' 2-floor hutch. You can put bricks down one of the doors of the hutch at the bottom as a step for them going to the attached run. I closed off the bottom with bricks as well so they won't go under the hutch (it's just easier for me not cleaning guinea pig poo and pee under the hutch as well haha).

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This is amazing! Thanks for sharing. Great work and looks so tidy! I notice you have newspaper under the fleece. Are you using anything else to absorb?
 
This is amazing! Thanks for sharing. Great work and looks so tidy! I notice you have newspaper under the fleece. Are you using anything else to absorb?
That photo was taken right after the big clean so it was still tidy. 😂 There's a big plastic under the newspaper. The fleece liner, I bought it from Ziggy's Piggies and has an absorbent layer in the middle that really does a very good job of absorbing (and retaining) the pee. I don't put puppy pads under the liner coz the pee never gets through the bottom. I change the fleece liner every week, apart from the ones on the 2nd floor of the hutch which are changed every day or two. My piggies sleep in the 2nd floor so most pee and poo are there.
 
Been meaning to post these for a while! Here they are in their new guinea pig room (formerly the study).

They get very nervous when we have to move them elsewhere to clean the cage and replace the fleece. It's like starting all over again. We haven't managed to hold them and just about weighed one with him running over the scales. They run away from us when we try to pick them up, but do eat food out of our hands.

They're nearly 9 weeks now, but I'm wondering if they were sold younger than what was stated as they still seem so small? So adorable to look at nonetheless, even if we can't hold them!
 

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Love that set up
Lucky piggies.
They do take time to overcome nervousness - as prey animals their default position is “You’re going to eat me”
Time and patience will work eventually
 
Aw hello and welcome
Bodger and Badger are gorgeous
Patience and veggie hand fed treats, try a little grass or dandelion leaf are the way to their hearts
Talk to them when you are around them, predatory animals are dreadly silent!
 
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