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Baytril Dose

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Stella&Pepper

Stella&Pepper

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Hi all

I am in a similar situation as the member with two poorly pigs from pets at home. I tried looking to adopt but couldn't find females anywhere! So went to pah on Saturday been to the vets with one today as I felt something wasn't right. Her symptoms were, eyes sunken, underweight, extremely fast breathing which never slowed, slight rattle to breathing, sneezing, slow appetite.

Took her to vet, she really didn't know anything. Gave me baytril which u have to dilute in a syringe with water?
Pig weighs 360g and pah said she was 3-4 months old. She is very skinny.
Dosage I was given was 0.07ml baytril diluted in 0.28ml water twice a day. Is this right?
 
@Pebble

I am very sorry for your problems. Baytril is very foul tasting, so you can mix the baytril with ribena instead of water if you wish to. I have tagged our medically most experienced member for you re. dosage.

Please offer her syringe feed and water; if she is very ill, you will have to do it often round the clock as you are liekly to get only little into her at first. As she is so small, you can give her probably only a small part of a syringe in one go. Let her get that down first before you give the next bit. You can mush up pellets as an emergency.
The need to breathe comes before the need to drink and thirdly the need to eat. Weigh her daily at the same time in the feeding cycle.
Here is our illustrated step-by-step guide. https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/complete-syringe-feeding-guide.115359/

Place a bowl of steaming water next to the cage in order to help ease the breathing.

We have got a piggy savvy vet locator on the top bar, as well as a good standard rescue locator.

Carefully bonded rescue boar pairs are safe; all the boar myths come sadly down to shops and breeders selling unmatched baby boars for the sake of a quick buck and cute looks. In fact boars can be bonded and rebonded at any age; the key is that their personalities mesh - and if it is done properly, they are as stable as a sow bond. Whereas with shop or breeder sows you run the risk of ending up with unplanned babies... :(
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/the-myth-about-boys.126564/
 
Sounds very low/ineffective - BUT .....What is the concentration of the original baytril you have been given please?

Actually forget the above question....... Just tell us everything that is printed on the label..........you may have been given 10% baytril instead of the normal 2.5% baytril....which would explain the much lower dose......but we need to check to be sure.
x.
 
Yipes! I hate these late night mathematics problems! But well done on picking up from other threads that your pigies may not be getting the "right amount" of meds...
So let's see what we can do to help you;.

OK - (deep breath Pebble please!) .....so working backwards - ~
Recommended Baytril Rabbit dose 10-30mg/kg.. Rat dose 5-10mg/kg
Your Piggie weighs 360g
Therefore Total Dose of active drug for your piggie at 360g weight should be either 3-10mg (rabbit) or 1.6-3.2mg (for rat)

Moving on:
Your piggie is given 0.07ml of unknown baytril concentration further diluted in 0.28ml water = 20% dilution and total volume of 0.35ml

So..........IF 2.5% baytril is being given, then this is equivalent to 25mg/ml and, taking the 1/5 dilution factor into account with the water, your piggie would be being dosed at 5mg/ml. However they ONLY received 0.35ml of that diluted meds at that concentration...therefore in total they are only recieving 1.75mg of active drug in each dose.......NOT GOOD

HOWEVER if 10% baytril is being used they are receiving 1.75mg x 4 = 7mg which is OK.

It is vital you establish with your vet whether 2.5% or 10% baytril has been prescribed and, if the former, then as you have quite rightly reslised already, your pigguie is being massively UNDERDOSED.

If you need to print out this post to explain the working to the vet then please do so. If you want a chat on the phone beforehand then please PM me.

Hope this has helped. well done for raising it!
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Edit: forgot to add...most vets dose guinea pigs according to the rabbit dose for baytril rather than the rats .
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Thanks for the replies. It is 2.5% baytril. I've measured oit what she's given me and it looks like about 1.7ml is in there. Can I give it undiluted- I've never had to mix baytril in my life!
 
Wiebke said:
@Pebble

I am very sorry for your problems. Baytril is very foul tasting, so you can mix the baytril with ribena instead of water if you wish to. I have tagged our medically most experienced member for you re. dosage.

Please offer her syringe feed and water; if she is very ill, you will have to do it often round the clock as you are liekly to get only little into her at first. As she is so small, you can give her probably only a small part of a syringe in one go. Let her get that down first before you give the next bit. You can mush up pellets as an emergency.
The need to breathe comes before the need to drink and thirdly the need to eat. Weigh her daily at the same time in the feeding cycle.
Here is our illustrated step-by-step guide. https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/complete-syringe-feeding-guide.115359/

Place a bowl of steaming water next to the cage in order to help ease the breathing.

We have got a piggy savvy vet locator on the top bar, as well as a good standard rescue locator.

Carefully bonded rescue boar pairs are safe; all the boar myths come sadly down to shops and breeders selling unmatched baby boars for the sake of a quick buck and cute looks. In fact boars can be bonded and rebonded at any age; the key is that their personalities mesh - and if it is done properly, they are as stable as a sow bond. Whereas with shop or breeder sows you run the risk of ending up with unplanned babies... :(
https://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/threads/the-myth-about-boys.126564/
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I already have 2 females that's why I couldn't get boars otherwise I would have as there were loads in rescue :)
 
Stella&Pepper said:
Thanks for the replies. It is 2.5% baytril. I've measured oit what she's given me and it looks like about 1.7ml is in there. Can I give it undiluted- I've never had to mix baytril in my life!
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Yes, you can give it undiluted; at least giving diluted is one step up from recommending to put the baytril in the water bottle. :mal:

Fingers very firmly crossed for your little girl! How is she this morning?

PS: Thanks, @Pebble for the mathematics. It looked too low to me, too, even for a youngster.
 
Shes not too bad today, she's had some grass, cucumber, a little pepper and some of her pellets so fingers crossed. She has list weight though but it was a very stressful time for her yesterday having to be dragged off to the vets by bus. I will give it undiluted from now on so it's quicker and less stressful for her too.

Thankyou all for your advise.
 
Please top her up with syringe feed; the more you can strengthen her body, the easier she can fight it off. Young guinea pigs often simply don't have the body mass and fully working immune system yet. I would also give her some extra vitamin C to boost her immune; about 1/8 of a human tablet for her size.

Having to travel to my vets by public transport, I sympathise! If you can, please take both together, so they have a snuggle buddy and "paw holder" (that is what I call the companion piggies).
 
Hi everyone

My little poorly pig is still rattling I left her on the baytril until I'd used it all up for around 9 days. I'm thinking I need to go back to the vet can someone tell me the correct dosage for baytril in ml for a 390g pig? Thanks
 
Could someone please give me the correct dosage in ML of baytril please for a 390g guinea pig so I can go armed with the info back to the vets. Unfortunately my closest exotic vet is Rotherham which is 20 miles away and I don't drive :/
 
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