• Discussions taking place within this forum are intended for the purpose of assisting you in discussing options with your vet. Any other use of advice given here is done so at your risk, is solely your responsibility and not that of this forum or its owner. Before posting it is your responsibility you abide by this Statement

bladder stone removal

piggiemummy03x

piggiemummy03x

Adult Guinea Pig
Joined
Apr 3, 2022
Messages
1,979
Reaction score
1,036
Points
805
Location
hampshire
as some of you may know, my della has had bladder issues since day dot.. after a suspected infection started up last week and no improvement from ABs or pain meds, a scan was done yesterday with not a lot of luck as she was too sore. fast forward to today she went in for an x-ray under anaesthetic and has now come out the vets having had these nasty things removed! bless her heart no wonder she was in so much pain!😭😭

any tips after bladder stone removal surgery are greatly appreciated!

she sure is a little fighter!❤️
 

Attachments

  • IMG_7885.webp
    IMG_7885.webp
    15.5 KB · Views: 5
  • IMG_7860.webp
    IMG_7860.webp
    34.5 KB · Views: 7
All the best for a good recovery.

The sheer relief from having the stones out can often help with the recovery but it depends on how well she is dealing with the post-GA symptoms - that can vary enormously. It also depends on whether or how badly the bladder is damaged (bladder trauma).

Please be aware that there may be a little bleeding from the bladder on the first day post-op and that the poos reflect the operation/operation cocktail in the first 1-2 days post-op. It is normal that they are funny. Please contact your vet clinic (or an out of hours clinic if you can) promptly if there is a suddenly a regular drip or quite a bit acute bleeding in the days post op; that indicates bladder trauma. It is thankfully not too common and just a possible stone op complication to have at the back of your mind so you know what to do and don't panic. I have had it once or twice and both sows have survived. ;)

Make sure that you have pain relief and that you supplement with glucosamine to help with the comfort and rebuilding the beleaguered natural glucosamine coating of the bladder and whole urinary tract. For UK members we recommend Johnsons 4joints strong dog liquid - it helps as much for the urinary tract as for joints.

Please take the time to read our practical post-op care advice guide. It contains lots of practical tips; including emergency advice and further helpful links.
Tips For Post-operative Care

All the best!
 
I am so sorry this happened! How old is Della?

My Rosie’s bladder stone journey was honestly traumatising to me. In the end we removed a stone that had reached 8mm and lodged itself into Rosie’s bladder wall. Her bladder was in horrible condition, as of today she has bounced back and is feeling fantastic!

Glycosamine is a brilliant supplement; it will help coat and protect your little one’s bladder. For sure filter your water. I decided to start using bottled water, which Rosie seems to prefer. Lots of cucumber, it’s important to keep the bladder active so sludge and crystals don’t have the time to settle. Daily floor time will also keep stuff moving. Pellets I have cut out completely, besides hay they get cucumber, romaine lettuce, bell pepper and coriander.

Lots of hugs and kisses to Della, let’s hope our girls don’t have to experience this again!
 
Wiebke said:
All the best for a good recovery.

The sheer relief from having the stones out can often help with the recovery but it depends on how well she is dealing with the post-GA symptoms - that can vary enormously. It also depends on whether or how badly the bladder is damaged (bladder trauma).

Please be aware that there may be a little bleeding from the bladder on the first day post-op and that the poos reflect the operation/operation cocktail in the first 1-2 days post-op. It is normal that they are funny. Please contact your vet clinic (or an out of hours clinic if you can) promptly if there is a suddenly a regular drip or quite a bit acute bleeding in the days post op; that indicates bladder trauma. It is thankfully not too common and just a possible stone op complication to have at the back of your mind so you know what to do and don't panic. I have had it once or twice and both sows have survived. ;)

Make sure that you have pain relief and that you supplement with glucosamine to help with the comfort and rebuilding the beleaguered natural glucosamine coating of the bladder and whole urinary tract. For UK members we recommend Johnsons 4joints strong dog liquid - it helps as much for the urinary tract as for joints.

Please take the time to read our practical post-op care advice guide. It contains lots of practical tips; including emergency advice and further helpful links.
Tips For Post-operative Care

All the best!
Click to expand...
thank you i an going to stay up for the feeds again through the night. i keep seeing lots of posts on affixation, if this happens (goes down the wrong hole into lungs) is it obvious? would they cough or something? noticed dellas making funny nose noises sometimes and I'm a bit worried! shes so out of it bless her😓xx
 
RosieLily said:
I am so sorry this happened! How old is Della?

My Rosie’s bladder stone journey was honestly traumatising to me. In the end we removed a stone that had reached 8mm and lodged itself into Rosie’s bladder wall. Her bladder was in horrible condition, as of today she has bounced back and is feeling fantastic!

Glycosamine is a brilliant supplement; it will help coat and protect your little one’s bladder. For sure filter your water. I decided to start using bottled water, which Rosie seems to prefer. Lots of cucumber, it’s important to keep the bladder active so sludge and crystals don’t have the time to settle. Daily floor time will also keep stuff moving. Pellets I have cut out completely, besides hay they get cucumber, romaine lettuce, bell pepper and coriander.

Lots of hugs and kisses to Della, let’s hope our girls don’t have to experience this again!
Click to expand...
della is 3, had issues basically since we got her i believe she was 13 weeks old when she had her first flush.. since then we have filtered water, cystease supplement and only cucumber, pepper, lettuce and corriander so we are both following the same plan! x

thankyou and to your rosie too x
 
piggiemummy03x said:
thank you i an going to stay up for the feeds again through the night. i keep seeing lots of posts on affixation, if this happens (goes down the wrong hole into lungs) is it obvious? would they cough or something? noticed dellas making funny nose noises sometimes and I'm a bit worried! shes so out of it bless her😓xx
Click to expand...

Hi

Asphyxiation (choking) and aspiration (fluid getting into airways) can happen but is by far not as common as all the online posts are making you believe. Some piggies can have somewhat rough breathing on the day after the op but that usually settles down on its own without any intervention needed.

Please be aware that when you do your personal online reseach that you will inevitably get all the horror stories and the miracle cures/escapes. What you do NOT get is the vast majority of perfectly normal and unexceptional recoveries because they are just accepted and are not seen as worth posting about. You will always have to the mental correction of proportions yourself. Even on this forum we see a higher proportion of problem cases of all sorts than they really happen in the overall population because people contact us for help or support.

I would strongly recommend to not work yourself up into a panic by bingeing on worst case scenarios. Knowing when to seek help and leaving the rest be is usually much better for your own mindset than having all the bad stuff taking hold of you during the operation wait. You can never anticipate what is going to happen but it usually happens in a different way to what you expect, no matter how experienced or inexperienced you are.
Here are some very practical tips on how to deal with anxiety, including during a procedure: Pet Owners Anxiety - Practical Tips For Sufferers and For Supporters
 
Wiebke said:
Hi

Asphyxiation (choking) and aspiration (fluid getting into airways) can happen but is by far not as common as all the online posts are making you believe. Some piggies can have somewhat rough breathing on the day after the op but that usually settles down on its own without any intervention needed.

Please be aware that when you do your personal online reseach that you will inevitably get all the horror stories and the miracle cures/escapes. What you do NOT get is the vast majority of perfectly normal and unexceptional recoveries because they are just accepted and are not seen as worth posting about. You will always have to the mental correction of proportions yourself. Even on this forum we see a higher proportion of problem cases of all sorts than they really happen in the overall population because people contact us for help or support.

I would strongly recommend to not work yourself up into a panic by bingeing on worst case scenarios. Knowing when to seek help and leaving the rest be is usually much better for your own mindset than having all the bad stuff taking hold of you during the operation wait. You can never anticipate what is going to happen but it usually happens in a different way to what you expect, no matter how experienced or inexperienced you are.
Here are some very practical tips on how to deal with anxiety, including during a procedure: Pet Owners Anxiety - Practical Tips For Sufferers and For Supporters
Click to expand...
thank you, i think she may be a bit congested but I'm just worrying because I'm syringing her. its a nightmare though shes a small pig with a small mouth! I'm getting as much as i can in i know its 40ml minimum in 24 hours.

i know thank you for reminding me this! xx
 
piggiemummy03x said:
thank you, i think she may be a bit congested but I'm just worrying because I'm syringing her. its a nightmare though shes a small pig with a small mouth! I'm getting as much as i can in i know its 40ml minimum in 24 hours.

i know thank you for reminding me this! xx
Click to expand...

Never syringe more than 0.3 ml at once and wait until has gone down. Never push any water in, either, for that reason. Allow your piggy to drink water from the syringe. Is your piggy totally off food or is she still eating a bit on her own?

Instead of the lungs, too much feed or water actually often goes up the nose; which may be what yours is experiencing. This is a bit unpleasant but harmless.
 
Wow,that's a lot of stones.Poor Della,she must be feeling so much more comfortable now.My late poppy had one bladder stone removed when she was 8 and it did take her a while to recover due to her age.I was syringe feeding everyday along with giving her painkillers.She did develop another one but luckily when I took her back to the vets and my vet was giving her a good look over(cos she was squeaking in pain again),the 2nd one just pinged out onto the floor.All the best for Della x
 
Wiebke said:
Never syringe more than 0.3 ml at once and wait until has gone down. Never push any water in, either, for that reason. Allow your piggy to drink water from the syringe. Is your piggy totally off food or is she still eating a bit on her own?

Instead of the lungs, too much feed or water actually often goes up the nose; which may be what yours is experiencing. This is a bit unpleasant but harmless.
Click to expand...
yes perfect i dont ever do more than .3ml even when shes well! shes completely off food, and wont take water from syringe either. shes still very drugged i think…

ah i see, i hope shes okay bless her i hate knowing i may have caused her more issues😓x
 
piggiemummy03x said:
yes perfect i dont ever do more than .3ml even when shes well! shes completely off food, and wont take water from syringe either. shes still very drugged i think…

ah i see, i hope shes okay bless her i hate knowing i may have caused her more issues😓x
Click to expand...

Go easy and give her time to recover and sleep it off.
 
Gem789 said:
Wow,that's a lot of stones.Poor Della,she must be feeling so much more comfortable now.My late poppy had one bladder stone removed when she was 8 and it did take her a while to recover due to her age.I was syringe feeding everyday along with giving her painkillers.She did develop another one but luckily when I took her back to the vets and my vet was giving her a good look over(cos she was squeaking in pain again),the 2nd one just pinged out onto the floor.All the best for Della x
Click to expand...
i know bless her heart, shes still very drugged up😓 oh bless her, 8 is a fab age though especially for a pig with problems! i struggle getting the feeding in her, she has a tiny mouth and i worry about too much going in at once so it takes me ages to do the smallest amount😓 oh my gosh bless her!
 
piggiemummy03x said:
i still have to get the 40ml in though right? she’s only had 7ml since 8am as shes had the op, been at vets etc
Click to expand...

She will have eaten some food once coming out of recovery or she would not have been allowed home without showing her eating reflex is there. And no, you do not have to get the 40 ml in overnight; you have to get them in from the time she was coming home so please take a deep breath.
 
piggiemummy03x said:
i know bless her heart, shes still very drugged up😓 oh bless her, 8 is a fab age though especially for a pig with problems! i struggle getting the feeding in her, she has a tiny mouth and i worry about too much going in at once so it takes me ages to do the smallest amount😓 oh my gosh bless her!
Click to expand...
Just get what you can get in her for now if she's still feeling drugged up and put fresh hay and a bit of her favourite veg in the cage x
 
Wiebke said:
She will have eaten some food once coming out of recovery or she would not have been allowed home without showing her eating reflex is there. And no, you do not have to get the 40 ml in overnight; you have to get them in from the time she was coming home so please take a deep breath.
Click to expand...
oh really?! so from 3pm collect time that 40ml started? x
 
Gem789 said:
Just get what you can get in her for now if she's still feeling drugged up and put fresh hay and a bit of her favourite veg in the cage x
Click to expand...
shes definitely drugged up bless her, feels like a dead weight😓 managing 1ml each 10 mins
 
is there anyone experienced with noises that can tell me please if this sounds like congestion in her nose or potentially critical care in her lungs? freaking out, have a follow up appointment with our trusted vet this afternoon but not sure if she needs to be seen sooner - but this will be a non experienced piggie vet so I'm freaking out🥵🥵
 
piggiemummy03x said:
is there anyone experienced with noises that can tell me please if this sounds like congestion in her nose or potentially critical care in her lungs? freaking out, have a follow up appointment with our trusted vet this afternoon but not sure if she needs to be seen sooner - but this will be a non experienced piggie vet so I'm freaking out🥵🥵
Click to expand...

Hi

Please hold your ear against the nose and the lungs; that should tell you where the problem sits. It is more likely the nose. Please also be aware that most adult piggies can cope with food going down the wrong way and are able to cough some of it out without it causing a respiratory infection - it's only the newborn babies that can't.

Please be careful and do not just squirt food and water into the mouth just because you are fixating on numbers.
 
Wiebke said:
Hi

Please hold your ear against the nose and the lungs; that should tell you where the problem sits. It is more likely the nose. Please also be aware that most adult piggies can cope with food going down the wrong way and are able to cough some of it out without it causing a respiratory infection - it's only the newborn babies that can't.

Please be careful and do not just squirt food and water into the mouth just because you are fixating on numbers.
Click to expand...


confirmed they think it could be a bit of the syringe food thats caused the issue😓
 
dellas not taking her critical care well at all😓 been at the vets all day being looked after to the point of stability but i genuinely dont know what to do and so scared ill get more in her lungs if i force it😫
 
best technique to get critical care food in a pig whos not really chewing? shes already got a bit of food in the wrong pipe i dont want to cause her any more problems😭😭😭
 
I’ve merged all your threads together. Please do keep to this thread so that everything is in once place.

I’m sorry to hear that this has happened.

Is she alert but just not chewing?
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top