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Dental Blodwen - dental and ringworm

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Just in case anyone wanted to see a photo of nasty ringworm... this is poor new piggy Blodwen's neck. That is really obvious ringworm which I spotted as soon as I met her last night and was confirmed by the vet this morning. She has Surolan topical treatment which I hope is enough but its just 1 bad lesion and she's away from the source of infection now... she'll be a regular at the vet for a while so if things dont improve I'll ask for a systemic medicine treatment...

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That looks sore and nasty! I suspect that all the others that the breeder has has ringworm too then. Poor things.
 
I suspect the woman has treated her pretty and valuable piggies then shoved the uglies in a cage together in the shed and advertised them for rehoming pretending they are just unwanted pets... if Blodwen makes it through the next couple of weeks we then have a whole dental spurs issue to address! Lovely vet Alessandro sounded confident he can fix her though... if we can get her eating or syringe feeding properly...
 
:( Sending love to her and vibes
 
Just thought its such a blatant ringworm pic it might be helpful for anyone getting a new pig with a dodgy background... if I'd been there as well as piggy daddy then Blodwen wouldnt have come home with us as I wouldnt risk infecting the herd... but once she was sat on my sofa and I saw her neck and started shouting hysterically about infection control risks there wasn't much to be done except suck up the vet bills and spray the F10 and quarantine her and change my clothes 5 times a day!
 
Just thought its such a blatant ringworm pic it might be helpful for anyone getting a new pig with a dodgy background... if I'd been there as well as piggy daddy then Blodwen wouldnt have come home with us as I wouldnt risk infecting the herd... but once she was sat on my sofa and I saw her neck and started shouting hysterically about infection control risks there wasn't much to be done except suck up the vet bills and spray the F10 and quarantine her and change my clothes 5 times a day!
Yes thank you for that really helpful :) Have bookmarked it
 
A future dental query, but the question is how far in the future... so Blod is new and scared and is in isolation with ringworm. At Her first vet check we found out she has a slightly misaligned jaw and 3 back tooth spurs. The vet says this shouldnt stop her eating...yet...but it needs fixing in the next 6 months or so. Quite impressed our lovely vet spotted this on a first inspection of a terrified pig. The question is when best to get this dealt with? It will mean GA as we are 120 miles from the experts so well recommended in Northampton and neither Blod nor me travel well in the car. She isnt eating much hay or pellets but I can't tell if that's fear because she's new, or her teeth. She slurps down critical care and grapes and beansprouts and cucumber but she doesnt seem too good with hard food like carrots and pellets and hay. But I can't really tell how much hay she eats when we're not watching. She has very good poops, lots and lots of them. She's off back to the vet next week to check on the ringworm but should I get the dental soon (though will she die of stress under GA?) or wait a while until she's settled but risk a big set back with recovery and bonding with the herd, and the teeth getting worse? Any opinions welcome on double vet bill bonus illness ringworm and dental Bloddy pig!
 
I wish you and Bloddy pig all the best for whatever you decide. I would discuss the situation with your vet next week. GA is very different these days to how it used to be, although there's a risk it's very slight in experienced hands. Your vet sound likes he/she knows what he is doing and I would be inclined not to have the added stress of a long trip.
As for the double vets bill you have my sympathy. I've just paid off a whacking great credit card bill and emptied my savings account/vet fund after a stone operation and 6 piggies going down with parasites/worms, when it rains it sure does pour!
 
eeks there's never a right or wrong in these kind of scenarios. What was your vets current view? Does she need to be in better health or gain some weight first? The longer it's left might make it harder to correct but then you don't want to rush ahead if she will be healthier and better able to face it in a few weeks
 
Only piggy daddy saw the vet with Blod last time and it was all in a panic 12 hours after she arrived, so next time I'll go myself and have a more full and frank conversation (my background is veterinary research, although large animal parasitology and pharmacology not piggy teeth- so I'm a bit more familiar with the terminology of veterinary drugs and acceptable risks, and general medical terms) but I just wanted a few piggy experienced opinions on the options so I can make some realistic evaluations!
 
I can't help you on the best way forward with Blod but I can send her lots of healing vibes and get better soon wishes for that ringworm to clear up. I hope Piggy Daddy has lots of old jumpers too.
 
A future dental query, but the question is how far in the future... so Blod is new and scared and is in isolation with ringworm. At Her first vet check we found out she has a slightly misaligned jaw and 3 back tooth spurs. The vet says this shouldnt stop her eating...yet...but it needs fixing in the next 6 months or so. Quite impressed our lovely vet spotted this on a first inspection of a terrified pig. The question is when best to get this dealt with? It will mean GA as we are 120 miles from the experts so well recommended in Northampton and neither Blod nor me travel well in the car. She isnt eating much hay or pellets but I can't tell if that's fear because she's new, or her teeth. She slurps down critical care and grapes and beansprouts and cucumber but she doesnt seem too good with hard food like carrots and pellets and hay. But I can't really tell how much hay she eats when we're not watching. She has very good poops, lots and lots of them. She's off back to the vet next week to check on the ringworm but should I get the dental soon (though will she die of stress under GA?) or wait a while until she's settled but risk a big set back with recovery and bonding with the herd, and the teeth getting worse? Any opinions welcome on double vet bill bonus illness ringworm and dental Bloddy pig!
Can blod manage fresh grass hand picked? This should help with teeth for the time being. I cant really add much, never had a dental pig really, but my old boar who broke his front top teeth managed grass really well
 
I can’t really offer any advise other than to have a frank and honest discussion with your vet but her not eating much hay worries me. But when my late Enoch had a dental, my vet just used gas to sedate him rather than a full GA so it may be worth asking your vet if a full GA is needed
 
I can’t really offer any advise other than to have a frank and honest discussion with your vet but her not eating much hay worries me. But when my late Enoch had a dental, my vet just used gas to sedate him rather than a full GA so it may be worth asking your vet if a full GA is needed
I would feed grass, built up slowly until hay is possible for her to eat
 
A future dental query, but the question is how far in the future... so Blod is new and scared and is in isolation with ringworm. At Her first vet check we found out she has a slightly misaligned jaw and 3 back tooth spurs. The vet says this shouldnt stop her eating...yet...but it needs fixing in the next 6 months or so. Quite impressed our lovely vet spotted this on a first inspection of a terrified pig. The question is when best to get this dealt with? It will mean GA as we are 120 miles from the experts so well recommended in Northampton and neither Blod nor me travel well in the car. She isnt eating much hay or pellets but I can't tell if that's fear because she's new, or her teeth. She slurps down critical care and grapes and beansprouts and cucumber but she doesnt seem too good with hard food like carrots and pellets and hay. But I can't really tell how much hay she eats when we're not watching. She has very good poops, lots and lots of them. She's off back to the vet next week to check on the ringworm but should I get the dental soon (though will she die of stress under GA?) or wait a while until she's settled but risk a big set back with recovery and bonding with the herd, and the teeth getting worse? Any opinions welcome on double vet bill bonus illness ringworm and dental Bloddy pig!
I can only speak from experience and I do have a lot, having run a guinea pig dental sanctuary for 7 years. I know you've already ruled out a visit to Simon Maddock in Northampton, but I really urge you to reconsider. The fact that your vet has identified a slightly misaligned jaw and back teeth spurs, but is saying that it needs fixing within the next 6 months, sends out warning signals, big time! A slightly misaligned jaw, suggests that the guinea pig has dental issues that need attending to NOW! In fact any dental problem, needs immediate attention!

I appreciate that Northampton isn't just round the corner, but by visiting Simon, you stand a very good chance of getting a complete cure for Blodwen. Only a fortnight ago, a very poorly piggy arrived here at TEAS. He couldn't eat anything for himself and was generally in very poor condition and looked very close to death. He saw Simon the next day, who identified very elongated teeth, found a huge clump of hair and food that had got stuck in his mouth, which was immediately removed and little Casper was eating by the time he left the practice. Casper had a follow up appointment on Monday and his teeth are almost perfect now. He will have a further check up in a month, but if all still going well, he will be able to return home. Casper had obviously had a very poor start in life (he's a very young piggy) with an inappropriate diet, but by jumping in quickly, he's now almost back to normal.

Simon has worked wonders, with so many dental piggies, from all around the UK. He does moreguinea pig dentals in a week, than most vets do in their whole career. Simon not only files the teeth without the need for GA, but he shapes them correctly, ensuring that the guinea pig has a set of teeth that will work, before they leave the practice. He's perfected his skill over more than 10 years of treating guinea pigs with dental issues and disease.
 
So day 8 here with Blodwen and I think her ringworm looks a lot better. I think I overdid the Surolan topical antifungal a bit as her whole neck face and back fur is greasy and spiky now and I've almost finished the bottle in a week rather than 2 but its really hard to accurately drip medicated gunk onto a 1cm sore patch on the neck of a squirming long haired piggy and I didnt want to miss a bit!
We have a vets appointment on monday evening to see how she's doing but a couple of questions that hopefully other ringworm victims may be able to answer:
1) do I bath her when she gets the all clear seeing as she's gunked up with surolan on her back and neck and has critical care feed caked into her chin and chest fur? Like maybe in anti-dandruff shampoo? Some forum posts mention this but I'm not sure if it will irritate her skin. We have normal Johnson's small animal shampoo also.
2) how long after getting the all clear can she meet her new herd? I definitely dont want to infect the others but she's really sad and scared living alone in quarantine
Any thoughts welcome, obviously we will consult the vet but they might not have as much experience as GPF members with what is supposed to happen at home once the ringworm lesions are gone!
 
I’m not sure if I can help there but I was wondering how long she has left until the introduction?
 
I’m not sure if I can help there but I was wondering how long she has left until the introduction?
Normally a quarantine is around 14 days but with a fungal problem like ringworm or a medical problem that can be passed on to other piggies it all depends on what the vet says really. With Ringworm you have to be absolutely certain that there are no spores left whatsoever or it can start up again.
 
I really wanted an oral antifungal and rang up and spoke to the vet but they said they've seen bad side effects with smaller piggies who arent eating much taking oral antifungals so try the surolan first. We have an appintment with the head vet monday so I'll ask again then. She's just so sad on her own, and her lovely lilac floof fur is caked with antifungal lotion with critical care feed smeared in it!
 
Oh, poor little thing. She will be so happy when she can meet her new friends. Hope the vet gives her the all clear. ❤️
 
Apart from the ringworm lesion looking better she just looks such a mess compared to when she arrived! I dont usually see the point to bathing piggies routinely (only one of ours has ever had a bath) but I just want to shampoo her and fluff her up and see her looking and acting like a normal piggy...
 
You could wash her after she gets the all clear, I don’t see why not, and like said above, I’d wait two weeks after you get the all clear just to make sure it doesn’t return. The last thing you need is a ringworm infestation on your whole herd, especially after just treating for mites!
 
Yes we planned to wait a while after the all clear and I'll check with the vet again before introducing her... but she's so sad I'd like to put a timescale and action plan in place so I feel a bit more in control, it was like, new pig yay! Sick pig aaargh! All in one evening... so scary.... hopefully she'll get well and have a nice bath and join the herd by Christmas at the latest!
 
Poor little Blod - and she can’t understand it’s for her own good.
Hopefully the ringworm will soon be completely clear and she will be able to bond with the herd
 
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