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Blood in urine and from nipple

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I know I thought one of them was bleeding before and it turned out to be red pepper colouring, but this time I'm sure. This morning there was a pool of bloody wee under the sofa, I checked them both over and found nothing, but a little later I went to cuddle Milo and the towel he was curled up on displayed a bloody patch. I saw some on his nipple and wiped it away with my thumb but a moment later a droplet of blood was forming on the tip of his nipple. That's when I realised that there is a swelling behind his nipple that feels like it's full of blood or puss. Then while we were cuddling he weed red wee on me, so now there's no doubt that there is blood in his urine too.

Milo appears to be fine in himself, he is eating and drinking normally, and running round chewing things he shouldn't, which must be a good sign, but I've resigned myself to taking him to the vets tomorrow. I've had bad experiences with vets here and don't trust them, but this one has been recommended to me. It's certainly impressive that they treat such a wide range of animals and that they have a 24 hour number. I've just phoned and the woman was very helpful, asked whether he had been exposed to any toxins or whether there was any physical injury, and confirmed that I can take him in whenever.

Any guidance please? How urgent is it? Should I miss work to take him tomorrow morning instead of waiting until the afternoon? I don't want to cause myself problems at work by being over-dramatic but Milo comes first above all else.

What is it likely to be? What sort of drugs could they give him and what shouldn't they give him? Might they want to keep him in?

As I said, he seems fine in himself, but he's so tiny and can't tell me what's wrong! He's approaching 5 years old and apparently completely healthy. This started only this morning, but there was another incident of bloody urine about a month ago. It was a one-off and I couldn't identify which of them it had come from.
 
Sorry Milo is unwell, I would see the vet with this too. If they're not really specialist guinea pig vets then have a look at this http://www.guinealynx.info/medications.html where you can find a list of both safe & dangerous medication for pigs. No harm in printing it out & taking it along with you.

As he is happy & ok, personally I would think it's ok to leave until after work but you know him best & if you are worried, his symptoms get worse, he stops eating or looks in pain then take him sooner.

All the best to Milo :)
 
Thanks shiny, I now have that printed and in my handbag :) I've had jobs in the past where I could just have said "My baby is ill, do you mind if I come in late after I take him to the vets?". Unfortunately, I can't do that in this job. I'll keep my eye on him and see how he is in the morning.
 
We're back from the vets. Milo has mastitis and two bladder stones. I have enrofloxacina 10% (Baytril?) of which I have to give him 2 drops every 12 hours, a probiotic called Proenteric 0.2ml once per day and 0.1ml of vitamin C once a day. We have an appointment to go back in a week to see how he's doing. Does that all sound about right? Anything I should be aware of? The vet said to cut out parsley and tomatoes which are among their favourite foods, but we can substitute with coriander and red pepper.
 
Sorry to her Milo is poorly.

I hav no experience of mastitis, hoping Someone one with experience may be along to offer advice, it is swelling of the nipples isn't it? I would presume that is what the Baytril is for.

How did the vet diagnose badder stones? This can only be confirmed 100% via an x-ray. Urinary tract infections can also lead to blood in the wee, hopefully If this is the case the antibiotics will clear it up. If it doesn't an X-ray will be needed to diagnose stones and an operation to remove them would be necessary. Has the vet gave you any painkiller such as metacam?

The vet is getting you to change to a diet which will be lower in calcium, as there is thought to be a link between calcium intake and stones.
Here is a link to a sortable food chart so you can get an idea on foods high in calcium http://www.guinealynx.info/chart.html#chart you can sort it by calcium

All our girls are on low calcium diets, so cucumber, celery, carrot, pepper, coriander, lettuce with occasional parsley, cabbages etc...

Lots of healing vibes to your little one
 
Thanks for the link -that's really useful. Yes, he had an x-ray so I've seen the two little stones myself. The vet said that hopefully the vitamin C will dissolve them and avoid an operation. No painkiller, no, just antibi, probi and vitC. She said his stomach has a lot of gas as well, hence the probiotic.

He has the mastitis in just one breast which has a puss-like lump and bleeds from the nipple.

Thank you for your kind wishes. We just attempted the first dose of Baytril and he took it like a trooper!
 
Poor Milo :( so glad you saw the vet & got diagnosis. If he's gas-prone watch out for too much cucumber, can be a problem I understand. We had a guinea with stones but they were in the kidney so couldn't be removed. Sometimes bladder stones can be passed or if they're bad, sometimes removed. Keep an eye out for Milo showing signs of pain (sitting hunched up, coat fluffed out, not eating) & weigh him weekly at least as rapid weight loss can suggest something is going on. I hope the mastitis clears up soon too.

Good to hear that Milo is eating & happy anyway :)
 
What is that in his stomach? I see the stone in his bladder but there is another stone like looking thing up in his stomach area? Odd. I hope your piggie does ok. He could maybe do with a low dose of pain relief/anti inflammatory such as metacam as i would imagine bladder stones arent particulary comfortable. You may also wish to consider this food also. Its helpful in guinea pigs with urinary problems: http://www.supremepetfoods.com/zones/vet-zone/furry-thinking-april-2012/

Hope he can get sorted.

x
 
Ok, here's the update. We went back to the vets on Monday for a follow-up. The x-ray shows the stones very much closer together, smaller and making their way out. They're in his appendixes (appendices?) apparently. However, on Tuesday the vet phoned and asked us to go in again on Wednesday to see "the specialist". After an hour long appointment which included x-rays, ultrasound, prodding, poking and squeezing, the vet said he doesn't think it's mastitis in his nipple, but a tumour. It was measured to control its progress. He's been on Metacam as well as everything else for the past week, and tomorrow I have to take Milo before work and leave him at the vets for the day. They will compare his nipple area with last week to see whether it's responding to the antibiotis or not and if it still looks like a tumour he will have a biopsy. I don't know what it means but today his nipple is seeping a clear fluid rather than blood.

Anyway I feel sick I'm so nervous about tomorrow, as much about leaving him there for the day as anything else. I have to work though, so taking him before work with permission to arrive late and picking him up again later is the only option that doesn't risk my job.

Please wish us luck, and if anyone has anything informative or reassuring to add, it would be appreciated. Thanks.
 
Poor Milo & poor you too, it's such a worry when we have to leave our guineas I know.

It is definitely in his interest to have a proper diagnosis of this potential tumor so the day at the vets sounds like a good plan. Do you have some of his favourite food you can take with him? I always take hay, mix & veggies if I have to leave my guineas at the vets.

I'm sure I read about mammary tumours on guinealynx so it might be worth searching their medical forum to see if there is anybody else who has been through the same thing.

Sending you all my best wishes for you & Milo for tomorrow xx
 
Thanks shiny. I've just looked at Guinealynx and you're right, the photos here look just like what Milo has. The lump is very localised right behind his nipple, so hopefully it shouldn't be too difficult to remove it if necessary... But oh, my baby! :0
 
When the vet said biopsy I thought they were just going to take a sample for testing, but it turns out they're actually operating today to remove the tumour !! Oh my poor boy! I've had to come to work and leave him there. I hope to god he'll be ok....
 
Hope everything goes ok for you and Milo. Waiting is the hardest part of these things x
 
How has Milo got on today? Hope you are both ok :)
 
Milo has had a full mastectomy on his right breast. The vet says the amount of inflammation is cause for concern and we need the biopsy results, which will take about a week. He was very dazed and drowsy when I collected him and they said he probably wouldn't eat today, but he was chomping on his hay before we left the vets and when we got home, he and Archie demolished a corn on the cob between them in record time! He was famished poor boy! Then he remembered he was feelng sorry for himself and retreated into his fluffy igloo. I have to spray the sewn area twice a day to clean it and he's on Motrillium or something every eight hours to keep his stomach working, as well as all the other medications.

I'm still stuck to the ceiling, waiting for the wine to kick in and bring me down again. But it's just wonderful to have my baby home!
 
Glad he is back home & eating with his friend :). Keep a close eye on him as his surgery pain relief will wear off at some point & then he might feel a bit more sorry for himself. A guinea in pain tends not to eat well. Did they give you pain relief medication for him at home?

Hoping for good results from what they removed, gentle hugs to Milo x
 
He's on Metacam. I've just given him all his morning medicines plus a spray of his wound with antiseptic and now he's chomping on his breakfast! x)
 
I am glad he seems to be feeling well. I hope his piggie parent is feeling better too xx
Get well soon Milo. x
Zee, Leo, Fudge and Truffle send their love too.
 
The vet just phoned with the results of the biopsy. She said the tumour is malignant but not very aggressive. We're going back tomorrow for a check-up. There's a good chance they got it all out, isn't there?
 
They would have gone for a good margin around it I'm sure but best talk to your vet about it tomorrow. Hope Milo is doing well xx
 
He and Archie are currently on an expedition to find things to chew under my bed..... He's alert, bright, cheeky, eating well, pooing well.... He's being cuddlier than usual, but then he's had to get used to me giving him medicine up to five times a day! He's dropped to three times at the moment: Baytril twice a day then Vitamin C and probiotics about an hour after his evening dose.
 
Hope he continues to do well, lots of healing vibes his way x
 
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