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Hi everyone.

Any adviche much appreciated:

I had 3 single boars that did not get along and could not be bonded (tried different combinations but no luck) so i decided to neuter them and get a girl companion for each of my beautiful boys. I currenly have 6 single pigs which i want to put in 3 pairs. Its been 7 weeks since my boys were 'done' and I'm ready to start pairing them. Based on their personalities i have a good idea of who could be good with who but I'm just not sure where to start. Can boy and girl not like each other and end up in a fight? Is there a chance they wont get along? How do i start the process and what if one or two pairs turn out to be a great match and third pair dont work out? Have you pleas got some tips on starting the bonding ? I have read a lot about puttong a pair together but there isnt much info about one boy plus one girl bonding.

Thank you in advance
 
A boy plus a girl is normally no problem. In eleven years of owning guinea pigs I just once had a bonding between a boy and a girl with little problems, but it went well later on. So the chances that it won’t work are very little.

Normally the first few hours there is quite a lot of action, as most boys get a bit over excited, when they meet girls.
 
I’ve only bonded a boar with a pair of sows once.
Absolutely no problems at all.
Titus just got very excited and spent the first hour trying to mate.
They settled into a very happy trio.
Hope all your bonding goes well.
Keep us posted and post pictures too please
 
Hi everyone.

Any adviche much appreciated:

I had 3 single boars that did not get along and could not be bonded (tried different combinations but no luck) so i decided to neuter them and get a girl companion for each of my beautiful boys. I currenly have 6 single pigs which i want to put in 3 pairs. Its been 7 weeks since my boys were 'done' and I'm ready to start pairing them. Based on their personalities i have a good idea of who could be good with who but I'm just not sure where to start. Can boy and girl not like each other and end up in a fight? Is there a chance they wont get along? How do i start the process and what if one or two pairs turn out to be a great match and third pair dont work out? Have you pleas got some tips on starting the bonding ? I have read a lot about puttong a pair together but there isnt much info about one boy plus one girl bonding.

Thank you in advance

Hi! Your boys are lucky to have found such a caring owner!

Guinea pigs are a lot like humans when it comes to pairing up - the chemistry between them needs to be right; so yes, acceptance can fail and there can be tussles or even bloody fights. However, acceptance in young sub-adult piggies is generally very high as they have their instincts and their body chemistry urging them to pair up. It is getting more difficult the older sows past their ideal child bearing age are (sadly they never have a menopause) while boars tend to mellow with age.

Since it is the sows that accept the boars, I would recommend to start with the most dominant sow; then bond your most dominant boy with one of the more submissive sows, so you get the two trickiest bonds settled first and have the option to make another attempt with a different partner. Take the time to only conduct one bonding at any time and always provide new and clean fleece or towels for each new bonding combination. It pays to not rush it and to get every pair right, starting with the two most difficult piggies to pair up, so you have got the most options for them.
Here is our very detailed bonding guide: Bonding: Illustrated Dominance Behaviours And Dynamics

Allow the boy and sow time together in a divided bonding pen to get to know each other, ideally overnight. The more you can take the extraneous stress factors out, the better. Make sure that there is something to eat in the middle (hay or grass) and that you can refill, as well as acouple of water bottles. No hideys!

Brace yourself that a highly sexed hormonal boy can completely go overboard and lose the on-switch for his brain for a day or two and just mount a sow whichever way. The bonding can still come off as acceptance has happened, but you may need to give the piggies a breather in between. Unlike boar bondings, you can put cross gender bondings on hold once acceptance and the worst of the hierarchy sort-out have happened and a bond has been established.
Here is a classic example of a failed bonding where a rampant boar is overlooking all warning signs from more dominant sows. I knew that neither party is aggressive, so I have allowed the bonding to progress as far as tussle with no injuries for the sake of making an instructive video:
(PS: Barri now lives with 3 other sows and is taking life a lot easier these days while Hyfryd has still not accepted even a submissive boar after her bad past, but the sows live next to a pair of bonded neutered boars. )


Neutering is not going to change much in the way a boy is behaving; they are still going through the teenage months and react just like full boars. A lot of testosterone is produced in the urine, so conduct any bondings in a room you can open a window or outdoors in the cooler hours of the day. It can be a stinky pee fest from both sides - the boars making the girls as 'theirs' and the sows target peeing to keep the boys away from their relevant parts if the are not in season and if they have not submitted to a boar's mounting right at the beginning (they only will if they are also submitting leadership to him); a dominant sow will keep a submissive boy at bay. Things can get rather lively and vocal, and you have to sit through that, even minor tussles when a sow tries to protect her bum from a rampant boy. If he doesn't accept when the limit is reached, that is when a bonding can fail.
This guide here can give you a bit of an idea of just how dramatic it can get, especially when a sow comes into season spontaneously and during the first few seasons in a new bond - the drama actually serves to cement the bond.
It is important that you have no hideys at all until things have calmed down. Just peg a sheet or blanket over the bonding pen or cage and at the worst put a temporary divider back if that becomes necessary.
When Sows Experience A Strong Season (videos)
Sow dominance behaviour also applies to mixed gender groups: Dominance Behaviours In Guinea Pigs

I hope that that helps you?
 
Wow, your boars are so lucky.
If you read the bonding guides they really are helpfu. However, even I , who do bondings for the rescue and also my own piggy bondings, get a bit anxious. And that’s no bad thing as not all sows will get on with all neutered boars. And the boars can become real sex pests (but not all do!). So it’s good to be vigilant.
My advice would be to prepare fully in advance, take it slowly and just focus on getting one stable pair at a time rather than trying to get them all done in the one day.
What sort of set up are you going to have for all these lucky newly weds? They must have taken over your house.
 
They will be absolutely fine, it is completely natural for opposite sex pairs to live together so they usually get on very well, no need to sort out dominance either as it's always the male. So pop them together and the male will soon be trying to mate continuously but eventually the sow will make it clear he has to stop and then everything calms down and they just live happily ever after♡♡
 
They will be absolutely fine, it is completely natural for opposite sex pairs to live together so they usually get on very well, no need to sort out dominance either as it's always the male. So pop them together and the male will soon be trying to mate continuously but eventually the sow will make it clear he has to stop and then everything calms down and they just live happily ever after♡♡

I have had several neutered boar /sow pairs and groups and in only one has the boar been the top pig. My personal experience and my experience through the rescue as also seen several instances where bondings have failed where the sows have rejected the neutered boar on offer. I accept that this is less frequent than acceptances and successful bondings but it would not be prudent to suggest it will all be plain sailing.
 
In my experience of well in excess of half a century of bondings, whether a boar comes on top or not depends on the individual kudos.
I have had at least 5 'husboars' who needed to come top (some of which had the natural charisma and leadership quality to run a large group successfully) and who I had to build group of sows around and not around a dominant sow - or find a suitable successor! Several have been very submissive and have grown into master diplomats. The status and outlook of a husboar can also change throughout his life according to group dynamics and growth of confidence.

What does NOT work in my experience is a dominant sow and a dominant boar together. Hence my recommendation on how to proceed and have the biggest chance at creating a long term harmonious bond. Ultimately, it is mutual liking and the balance of personalities that determines how loving a bond is going to be - and that is something that you can never fully anticipate. What looks great on paper can go badly wrong in reality whereas two oddballs can bond over that become a rather formidable pair. ;)

Fear-aggression is also an aspect that many people are not aware of but that is often at the heart when it comes to a fight or a bonding fail; that is why you can't rush a bonding and better take your time in the run up where you have your piggies you want to bond live alongside each other if that is an option.
 
@VickiA and @Wiebke thanks Theo is very relieved to hear that, he has no plans to dominate any ladies when we try bond our three in 4 weeks time- he thinks ladies in season are terrifying and he is very happy to hide from them until they decide which of them is boss- which changes every 2 weeks at the moment depending who has the strongest season :)
But he's clearly a natural subordinate peacemaker type, which hopefully will work great with a pair of bossy ladies who act like rabid hyenas every 15 days... couldnt imagine trying to pair a dominant male with my girls!
Best of luck @Domzalm1 that's a lot of personalities to pair off! Its like Love Island for piggies, wish it was on TV :)
 
@VickiA and @Wiebke thanks Theo is very relieved to hear that, he has no plans to dominate any ladies when we try bond our three in 4 weeks time- he thinks ladies in season are terrifying and he is very happy to hide from them until they decide which of them is boss- which changes every 2 weeks at the moment depending who has the strongest season :)
But he's clearly a natural subordinate peacemaker type, which hopefully will work great with a pair of bossy ladies who act like rabid hyenas every 15 days... couldnt imagine trying to pair a dominant male with my girls!
Best of luck @Domzalm1 that's a lot of personalities to pair off! Its like Love Island for piggies, wish it was on TV :)

Theo sounds a bit like my Ralph. Ralph is happy to rumble & patrol his ladies but then steps back & lets them get on with the business of hierarchy. Definitely the best way!
 
Theo sounds a bit like my Ralph. Ralph is happy to rumble & patrol his ladies but then steps back & lets them get on with the business of hierarchy. Definitely the best way!
Theo hasnt even dared rumble for the last 36 hours as the girls seem to come into season about 12 hours apart! Fortunately he has had a nice new carrot house to destroy (he's a nervous nibbler) and everything is calming down now. Poor boy hates any sort of conflict (I think his previous owners used to shout at each other and him) so even though the girls love a good ear pulling battle chase scene it makes him a bit upset! They are both making it up to him now though with chirping and kisses :)
 
Hi! Your boys are lucky to have found such a caring owner!

Guinea pigs are a lot like humans when it comes to pairing up - the chemistry between them needs to be right; so yes, acceptance can fail and there can be tussles or even bloody fights. However, acceptance in young sub-adult piggies is generally very high as they have their instincts and their body chemistry urging them to pair up. It is getting more difficult the older sows past their ideal child bearing age are (sadly they never have a menopause) while boars tend to mellow with age.

Since it is the sows that accept the boars, I would recommend to start with the most dominant sow; then bond your most dominant boy with one of the more submissive sows, so you get the two trickiest bonds settled first and have the option to make another attempt with a different partner. Take the time to only conduct one bonding at any time and always provide new and clean fleece or towels for each new bonding combination. It pays to not rush it and to get every pair right, starting with the two most difficult piggies to pair up, so you have got the most options for them.
Here is our very detailed bonding guide: Bonding: Illustrated Dominance Behaviours And Dynamics

Allow the boy and sow time together in a divided bonding pen to get to know each other, ideally overnight. The more you can take the extraneous stress factors out, the better. Make sure that there is something to eat in the middle (hay or grass) and that you can refill, as well as acouple of water bottles. No hideys!

Brace yourself that a highly sexed hormonal boy can completely go overboard and lose the on-switch for his brain for a day or two and just mount a sow whichever way. The bonding can still come off as acceptance has happened, but you may need to give the piggies a breather in between. Unlike boar bondings, you can put cross gender bondings on hold once acceptance and the worst of the hierarchy sort-out have happened and a bond has been established.
Here is a classic example of a failed bonding where a rampant boar is overlooking all warning signs from more dominant sows. I knew that neither party is aggressive, so I have allowed the bonding to progress as far as tussle with no injuries for the sake of making an instructive video:
(PS: Barri now lives with 3 other sows and is taking life a lot easier these days while Hyfryd has still not accepted even a submissive boar after her bad past, but the sows live next to a pair of bonded neutered boars. )


Neutering is not going to change much in the way a boy is behaving; they are still going through the teenage months and react just like full boars. A lot of testosterone is produced in the urine, so conduct any bondings in a room you can open a window or outdoors in the cooler hours of the day. It can be a stinky pee fest from both sides - the boars making the girls as 'theirs' and the sows target peeing to keep the boys away from their relevant parts if the are not in season and if they have not submitted to a boar's mounting right at the beginning (they only will if they are also submitting leadership to him); a dominant sow will keep a submissive boy at bay. Things can get rather lively and vocal, and you have to sit through that, even minor tussles when a sow tries to protect her bum from a rampant boy. If he doesn't accept when the limit is reached, that is when a bonding can fail.
This guide here can give you a bit of an idea of just how dramatic it can get, especially when a sow comes into season spontaneously and during the first few seasons in a new bond - the drama actually serves to cement the bond.
It is important that you have no hideys at all until things have calmed down. Just peg a sheet or blanket over the bonding pen or cage and at the worst put a temporary divider back if that becomes necessary.
When Sows Experience A Strong Season (videos)
Sow dominance behaviour also applies to mixed gender groups: Dominance Behaviours In Guinea Pigs

I hope that that helps you?

Thank you so much. The video is very helpfull as well as all linked posts. Exciting times ahead xx
 
Wow, your boars are so lucky.
If you read the bonding guides they really are helpfu. However, even I , who do bondings for the rescue and also my own piggy bondings, get a bit anxious. And that’s no bad thing as not all sows will get on with all neutered boars. And the boars can become real sex pests (but not all do!). So it’s good to be vigilant.
My advice would be to prepare fully in advance, take it slowly and just focus on getting one stable pair at a time rather than trying to get them all done in the one day.
What sort of set up are you going to have for all these lucky newly weds? They must have taken over your house.

Thank you. Yes its a little crazy with all separate pigs. I'm looking forward to having them in pairs. 2 will be downstairs- c&c2×4 opened on one side so they can go for a wonder as and when they like , 2 upstairs in piggy room on floor also 2x4c&c opened on one side and another 2 will have 2x5 c&c with additional level 2x2 but wont be 'free range' they are taking over lol
 
I have had several neutered boar /sow pairs and groups and in only one has the boar been the top pig. My personal experience and my experience through the rescue as also seen several instances where bondings have failed where the sows have rejected the neutered boar on offer. I accept that this is less frequent than acceptances and successful bondings but it would not be prudent to suggest it will all be plain sailing.

Yes of course I completely forgot the boar will be neutered lol. Neutered boars are usually seen as just another sow lol. Please forget my advice I used to breed Guinea Pigs a long time ago and of course it's a different matter if the male is neutered so I have no experience there sorry
 
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