Bonding Two Herds

Annie Robbins

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Hey everyone,

My fiance and I have moved in together. He has two female pigs that are around 1 year old. I have three female guinea pigs, two are around 1 year old, and the youngest is around 5 months old. Any suggestions on bonding the two herds together?

Currently, the cage has a separator, so they can sniff and see each other. The dominate one of his herd and the dominate one of my herd keeps blowing air and chattering at each other.

I have successfully bonded guinea pigs before in the past, but I have never bonded two herds together.
 
Hey everyone,

My fiance and I have moved in together. He has two female pigs that are around 1 year old. I have three female guinea pigs, two are around 1 year old, and the youngest is around 5 months old. Any suggestions on bonding the two herds together?

Currently, the cage has a separator, so they can sniff and see each other. The dominate one of his herd and the dominate one of my herd keeps blowing air and chattering at each other.

I have successfully bonded guinea pigs before in the past, but I have never bonded two herds together.

Hi! Bonding herds can work or fail; it all depends on whether the sows involved - especially the two top sows - can come to an agreement about which of them is going to the be the new First Lady. That is not always the case. Personally, I would not bond if there are hostilities between the two groups - it is bound to fail!
See it as an opportunity, but don't be gutted if it doesn't come off and you have to keep them as next door neighbours.

This guide here looks at bonding behaviours and various dynamics during bonding; you may find it very helpful. It covers the whole period from the preparation until the end of the dominance phase which takes typically 2 weeks.
Bonding: Illustrated Dominance Behaviours And Dynamics
 
Thank you guys. Do you think it would be good to give everyone a bonding bath. Then only introduce the two dominate females together. Then once the dust has settled, add in the other pigs?
 
Thank you guys. Do you think it would be good to give everyone a bonding bath. Then only introduce the two dominate females together. Then once the dust has settled, add in the other pigs?

Hi! Bonding baths are unfortunately still touted wildly as the ultimate magic wand measure when it comes to bonding. It has not borne out in our members' experience, apart from adding an extra stress factor and delaying the bonding the process a little. But it doesn't contribute in any way to a positive outcome.

When the chips are down, piggies get on or not; this is entirely down to their personalities and not something you can influence or change. Having a show-down between the two leaders won't make them become friends irrespective of whether they are alone or with their groups; they only do that if they want to.

You won't become best friends with a workmate you can't stand just because your boss sticks you together in a sauna first thing and then expects you to happily share a tent during a team building trip. Why should piggies if we don't?

If over 50 bondings - and believe me, I've tried all the usual tricks myself at some point or other - have taught me one thing, then it is to not underestimate guinea pig social instincts and personalities. We humans may have our dreams, but piggies have very much their own ideas. Group leadership is as high as they can climb in their career ladder. Why should two equally sized and aged ladies happily stand back for the other just because you, like so many love the idea of a big group?

If you want a larger group, then it is much better to build it carefully around one dominant piggy (whether that is a sow or a neutered boar) and only gradually add submissive and younger sows, ideally with a group background, that cannot challenge the existing hierarchy. Getting two dominant piggies to cohabit only ever works if they decide that they want to be best friends; and in the longer term if the weaker of the two concedes and doesn't bide her time to strike back at the first hint of weakness or becomes a victim of bullying.
I have stuck it out on some occasions but have made the experience that latent issues have a tendency to rear their head again and again and cause tensions in a group. it takes experience and very careful reading of body language to jugdge whether a bonding is only going right up to the line, but not across it or if it is likely to blow up and end in a full-on fight or a leng term grudge match.
 
Personally I don't think baths are helpful. Some piggies find them stressful, so if their stress levels have already been raised it is not a good starting point for bonding. Bonding herds can be done but it can be very tricky and take a lot of time, space and nerve(on your part) The two top sows may find it difficult to decide who is going to be alpha which may involve a lot of scuffles and chasing, so they need a lot of space in order to escape from each other. Everyone else also has to find their place in the new herd.

I recently bonded two herds of 4 sows and 5 sows together into one herd of 9. it was a little nerve wracking at times as neither of the 2 top sows wanted to give way, they had a lot of scuffles and rolling around (over a period of a several days) but did not seriously harm each other. To begin with they had an area of approx 70 square feet for the first week so there was room for everyone to avoid trouble, they now have half this area to live in. It is just over two weeks now and they have all settled down, although the displaced top sow is still, for now, quick to run from the ultimate alpha when she looks at her but there is no more chasing. If I wasn't very use to bonding piggies I think I may have given up with this bonding and stuck to 2 smaller groups. It can be difficult to advise others as you sometimes need experience to know when to step in or not.
 
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