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Boris!Off to vets for emergency visit

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Can't get through to Vedra right now, her phone's off (she's probably in surgery), but will keep trying every few mins. How's his skin/seizures?
 
Great news, at least that is improving, which is important.
Bumblefoot is one of those tricky things. I'm just hoping Vedra will be able to offer some wisdom! Do you have any of the Happy Soles ointment from Gorgeous Guineas? That's worked wonders for some pigs, may help Boris a bit more than the Bepanthen.
 
Good luck with getting through to Vedra!

Poor Boris - I wouldn't feel like moving, either! So relieved that he still has his appetite, his skin is healing and that he hasn't had any more seizures.

Healing is such an iffy process...

Sending my vibes to Boris

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
Right I got through to Vedra, she was very helpful so I hope this info helps out.

The bumblefoot is probably down to the fungal infection. The Sporanox (which she confirmed is the same as Intrafungol) is unlikely to be strong enough as the fungal infection is bad enough to have caused such the severity of the bumblefoot, so griseofulvin would probably be most effective.

In UK we get 125mg griseofulvin tablets, we would give half a tablet a day. You have to combine the powder (when you grind down the tablets) with a fatty acid, such as oil of evening primrose. You only need enough of this to combine with the powder to syringe to him, but the fatty acid will help the griseofulvin absorb into the body.
The skin on his feet/legs will be overstretched and will most likely not return to their normal size, so to a degree he'll probably always have a bit of 'swelling'/stretched skin.
 
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Right I got through to Vedra, she was very helpful so I hope this info helps out.

The bumblefoot is probably down to the fungal infection. The Sporanox (which she confirmed is the same as Intrafungol) is unlikely to be strong enough as the fungal infection is bad enough to have caused such the severity of the bumblefoot, so griseofulvin would probably be most effective.

In UK we get 125mg griseofulvin tablets, we would give half a tablet a day. You have to combine the powder (when you grind down the tablets) with a fatty acid, such as oil of evening primrose. You only need enough of this to combine with the powder to syringe to him, but the fatty acid will help the griseofulvin absorb into the body.
The skin on his feet/legs will be overstretched and will most likely not return to their normal size, so to a degree he'll probably always have a bit of 'swelling'/stretched skin.
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do you know where Bonnie could buy this love? it's so dam hard here in OZ if it's here in Melbourne i could buy and whip it up to her in overnight bag.........or go for a drive and meet her half way or something if you have a suggestion i'm sure she'd appreciate it......just trying to help x
You guys are awesome once again helping another little piggie, i'd like to say thanks on behalf of all aussie piggies for all your help xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>
 
Griseofulvin is generally prescription only, I can't find anywhere in Oz that sells it online without prescription. There is one place in the US that sells it online but it takes 10+ days for the product to arrive, so pretty useless!
 
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Could you get your vet (Chris, isn't it?) to prescibe it for Boris, Bonnie? That might be the quickest way!
 
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hope Boris has a full good day and that you guys can sort things out re the meds.

Wish I could help you too, but it's just not possible. I would if I wasn't
a - in the UK
b - 7 months preggers
c - at work

in that order...

Lots of love to Boris and Bonnie
 
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Right I got through to Vedra, she was very helpful so I hope this info helps out.

The bumblefoot is probably down to the fungal infection. The Sporanox (which she confirmed is the same as Intrafungol) is unlikely to be strong enough as the fungal infection is bad enough to have caused such the severity of the bumblefoot, so griseofulvin would probably be most effective.

In UK we get 125mg griseofulvin tablets, we would give half a tablet a day. You have to combine the powder (when you grind down the tablets) with a fatty acid, such as oil of evening primrose. You only need enough of this to combine with the powder to syringe to him, but the fatty acid will help the griseofulvin absorb into the body.
The skin on his feet/legs will be overstretched and will most likely not return to their normal size, so to a degree he'll probably always have a bit of 'swelling'/stretched skin.
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o gawd more meds,poor Boris,i can't believe his feet will always be stretched and with swelling,
so far he has a weak back,partial walking(probably slightly disabled in futre),and bad feet,i don't know how much more he can deal with,i feel horrible for him:(,thank you for getting that info Laura it has really helped x

Glynis said:
do you know where Bonnie could buy this love? it's so dam hard here in OZ if it's here in Melbourne i could buy and whip it up to her in overnight bag.........or go for a drive and meet her half way or something if you have a suggestion i'm sure she'd appreciate it......just trying to help x
You guys are awesome once again helping another little piggie, i'd like to say thanks on behalf of all aussie piggies for all your help xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>xx>>>
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Wow Glynis i wouldnt expect you to help that much you have done so much already,and yes i agree about finding things in oz,thank you OS members x

CCC4 said:
Griseofulvin is generally prescription only, I can't find anywhere in Oz that sells it online without prescription. There is one place in the US that sells it online but it takes 10+ days for the product to arrive, so pretty useless!
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whoa 10 days that is too long hmmm let me think ........

Vickyt said:
Could you get your vet (Chris, isn't it?) to prescibe it for Boris, Bonnie? That might be the quickest way!
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Well Chris prescribed the Sporanox and then we just picked it up from the chemist,but where would i get Griseofulvin? they may not even sell it here,the vets don't seem to have half the things we need and some things arent even known to them xxxxxx

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hope Boris has a full good day and that you guys can sort things out re the meds.

Wish I could help you too, but it's just not possible. I would if I wasn't
a - in the UK
b - 7 months preggers
c - at work

in that order...

Lots of love to Boris and Bonnie
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Thank you,i didnt know you were pregnant:o,Congratulations xxxxxx
 
Sorry, what a pickle!

Big hug, anyway!
Wiebke
 
dam it Bonnie i was so hoping we could find something close by..........

and hey i would do it for you and Boris x)

am off to bed now.....been a long day
but remember am here xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
and phone beside the bed x
 
hey, I reckon you should see Bondi Chris x)x)... but I've just looked at the map... Sydney looks even further then Melbourne, so I guess, that's not on? :(
 
I have used Fulcin, a human anti-fungal treatment, on pigs before now.
It is no longer on the available drugs list in the UK. It was much more efective than Griseofulvin.
Nothing to lose by asking your local pharmacist about it.
 
alcesterpigs said:
I have used Fulcin, a human anti-fungal treatment, on pigs before now.
It is no longer on the available drugs list in the UK. It was much more efective than Griseofulvin.
Nothing to lose by asking your local pharmacist about it.
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Thanks AP i will check it out and let you know,
i just went to my local coffeeeshop/fuel station and chris my vet was there,he had just performed 2 emergency C sections on dogs and was grabbing a coffee,we had a long chat and he wants to try and get a rodentologist into the area although the rarety of them is amazing,he asked me if i was interested in studying it lol,apparently his clinic is going to offer a large salary for a specialist due to the call for one:).we chatted about Boris and i told him about what vedra recommended and he doesn't think he can get a hold of itrolleyes so ill stick with AP's idea providing we can get it,thanks all x
 
Fulcin contains griseofulvin so it'll do just the same. If you can't get it there I'll see if I can get any here.

The griseofulvin/Fulcin would be instead of the Sporanox - not what you want to hear after the outrageous cost of the Sporanox!

That is great that Chris is so interested in getting rodentologists/specialists at the clinic. You would be great Bonnie, if you wanted to go down that track, you can study the Rodent Health Advisor then the G-BAR rodentology from abroad. I wonder if Chris would do those courses himself? What a great vet he would be if he did, he'd be in demand once word got out!
 
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Fulcin contains griseofulvin so it'll do just the same. If you can't get it there I'll see if I can get any here.

The griseofulvin/Fulcin would be instead of the Sporanox - not what you want to hear after the outrageous cost of the Sporanox!

That is great that Chris is so interested in getting rodentologists/specialists at the clinic. You would be great Bonnie, if you wanted to go down that track, you can study the Rodent Health Advisor then the G-BAR rodentology from abroad. I wonder if Chris would do those courses himself? What a great vet he would be if he did, he'd be in demand once word got out!
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ok well i will see if i can get either one here if they do the same thing.oh its just more money to add to Boris's mounting expenses lol,
yes chris is interested,he did say he was interested but he has 3 very young kids and wants to cut his hours down as it is lol not be in more demand,i would love to do it i truthfully thought i didnt have the brains but i might look into it xxxxxx
 
Of course you have the brains. You're here, and look at all you're doing for Boris. There's no better headstart! In any case, you can always bend my ear any time about anything you get stuck on. :)
 
Another day=Another update

hi all,
well this morning started off well with Boris he was bright and happy:)
around lunch time one of the scabs on his front foot came off and it bled quite alot,it has since closed up again but I'm relly worrying about his feet

tonight has been back to the bad again!
he is flopped and isn't interested in much,i am hand feeding all meals now as he doesnt eat if i don't,his skin is much better so i don't think thats a worry now,

I know the best med would be griseofulvin,which i can get here but its originally what Boris was on for his fungal infection,
he didnt take it well at all no matter how hard i tried and he always only got half doses for that reason ,it got to the point where he just refused it altogether so i know he won't take it.
what is the best step from here as i have to do something fairly quick the swelling is bigger again today and the sporanox and nurofen don't seem to be helping it xxxxx
 
CCC4
Good luck in your search for Fulcin, it was withdrawn from the market here in 2009.
It was a POM.
 
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