Careful with pet store guinea pigs

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For the record, both of my current GP were from a local PS. At the time I was looking, I noticed local rehoming sites had a couple and they were far away, posts were rather old, very old ages, etc.. and wasn't aware of "gp" rescues being a thing (local rescues seem to mainly handle dogs and cats more than anything else). My boar is what I'd consider a 9.5 if it were a human dude (seriously, little is a stud in the human sense) as his eyes are bright and spaced wide, solid roman nose, perfect ears, perfect fur, etc., and female a 7 as she had a few minor issues (frayed ear tips and an U_R_I) but eyes are bright, nose bridge is narrow but suits her, ears healed but if not genetetic, than maybe some poor initial handling by whomever had her initially; seemingly smarter than the boar, very active, etc.. Using this completely arbitrary grading to baseline what you might see from gp in general, not for "show" grading or other nonsense. Basically stating no real defects and happy with them AND their temperaments.

However, while at the same PS today to get fresh bedding and hay, I went over and looked at their offerings. They have furred males and skinny females (separate cages). Not a fan of skinny pigs, so went and looked at the males. And saw one that had the colorings/markings that almost resemble a Rottweiler (lighter tan rings around the eyes contrasted by a darker color and same coloring on feet, etc.) which along with agouti pigs, I've always thought looks really neat. Asked to hold him. He was probably the age of my boar (kinda old for a PS pig if never handled). Right off the bat, he wasn't tame and almost leaped to death had I been slower. I kneeled down and putting him on the top of my leg and tried petting him. He squealed LOUDLY like he was being attacked from another pig or getting injured in a fight, JUST from petting his upper back near the shoulder blades. Then, while observing his nose bridge and eyes, I saw some oddities I couldn't quite put my finger on, like maybe there was an asymmetrical skull and eye sockets? It appeared to have a slight lazy-eye and both eye sockets were more top-mounted vs. side mounted, kinda reminding me of a catfish to a lesser degree. The eyes were not overly "bright" either. On the arbitrary scale that's being influenced on my gut feeling it might have been inbred heavily, I'd say it was a 2, despite having interesting markings. It's older age (for a PS) seemed odd to me, like I hope someone wasn't trying to use him for the coloring or something.

Just my 2 cents here, but IF you are in the market for a GP (regardless of where you get it) always be aware of oddities, deformities, odd temperaments, how it responds to being handled, etc.. That poor little guy wouldn't surprise me if it difficulties down the line. Then again, it might be one of the ones that make it to 9. Just be careful adding to your home!
 
Poor little guy! Petsmart? We have the same problems where I live as well. I am always really a bit bummed reading here of all the different little ways they have in the UK for the care of guinea pigs, rescues, etc. as my area doesn't really have many options except the pet store. Even breeders are few and far between where I am. Mine came from the pet stores here but in various ways. We do have a rescue that is separate from the pet store bred guinea pigs at Pet smart. Usually adults but young and mostly single boars when there is one from the rescue (although our first little rescue was classified a 'she' until very recently). Then I have a manager whom I've gotten to know that has called me to try to give a home to two guinea pigs that she felt needed special handling (one poor little one was not even 2 weeks old and missing fur on her head when we went to get her).

Our Petco is limited now as we had a flood here the year it opened and they didn't prepare properly so lost many animals. Since then, thankfully, they don't carry any animals but house a separate store part for a local rescue of cats and dogs. I did get one very beautiful guinea pig from another small local chain store here and lost her after trying desperately to treat her from a uri she came home with. I took her to the vets many times the weeks following bringing her home and she roller coastered between going very well again and then poorly within hours. It was heart breaking to both my daughter and myself and I know our vet did everything he could with different antibiotics, diuretics at one point, etc. I didn't know enough about guinea pigs at the time and thought she was just very docile when we got her from the store.

The other manager at petsmart is a friendly guy but admittedly knows nothing about guinea pigs. We are about 2 3/4 drive to NY city but very close to the border of PA. My husband works about 25 minutes away literally one exit before the state line. Most anything we find can be in PA more then NY for proximity. Last time I went to talk to one of the managers there for a mis sexing mistake on our second baby bought there, this manager looked at me and said, "Really? Oh um are you sure we made that mistake? Well, look, I don't know. I'm from PA, I don't know" My husband and I had to let this sink in but then we were laughing on the way back home. I said to him that I didn't know being from PA was an excuse lol. Really. I did get hold of the young girl managing the store that loves guinea pigs and is very knowledgeable and got much better results from that conversation.
 
Not a Petsmart. It's a Pet Supplies Plus and fairly close. They import from various breeders if I understand them correctly (my sow came from Chicago special order though she's just an everyday guinea pig). When I went to get my boar, he had a solid-colored golden mate that was equally impressive, though it had rosettes everywhere, but both were just in the store and I had been him-hawing awhile on getting one, and just lucked out.

A few other times I've looked, they seem to have decent looking boars around the 4-6 week age and their skinny pigs are about the same (cost nearly double though). That last visit however, had 3 boars and they had to be around the 8-10 week range. I'm assuming the one I handled hadn't been handled much, but it's possible it had mites or something (you never know). I've never seen one shriek like that from being touched in a fairly "safe" area of the back before. Usually they freeze or slack the jaw away like a sowing machine. That little guy went into full hysterics.

Yeah, until recently, I honestly didn't even know they had GP "rescues". I'm in Ohio, about an hour away from the other side of PA border, and it's all about cats/dogs here. There's apparently a GP-specific rescue about 45 miles from me, but dunno anything about it. Any other shelters seem to be around Columbus or Toledo, which is too far tbh.

Yeah, once you know HOW to sex them, I don't see how it can be an issue. Boars have a penis, sows don't. Doesn't help the boars much when everything retracts which I'm sure helped them greatly in the wild, but if people still can't figure out what foreskin is or what a "Y" looks like, etc. then.....
 
A lot of pigs from pet stores really have not been handled prior to coming home. I've certainly had at least one (Hadley, the pig in my avatar) who was terrified of being picked up and shrieked like a banshee when we brought her home. However, she settled down quickly and ended up being super friendly and will sleep on our laps as long as we let her. So I wouldn't rule out a guinea pig who is initially really frightened as being abnormal or having a difficult temperament in the long run. I have found that most of them, even the nervous ones, do just fine once you build trust with them. As for looks/breeding... I guess it's in the eye of the beholder. I have no idea where my pet store pigs originated (and probably would be sad if I knew!) I believe there are a lot of inbred guinea pigs out there, and I wouldn't exclude ones from breeders in that count (line breeding, i.e. breeding closely related animals who share a desirable familial trait, is a very common breeding technique as well, so some beautiful pigs from breeders may also have been deliberately inbred to produce those traits.) I guess like anything else, you pick a pig who you like the look/temperament of and hope there is nothing in their family tree that will cause problems down the line, since no matter where we got our pigs from (rescues, pet stores, breeders, etc.) most of us really don't know how they came to be and what issues may be in their family tree.
 
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The US is set up much like states and provinces in Europe. Each of them are still a good size with a few large cities. Ohio shares borders with where I live in NY, PA, WV and three other states on the central west. If you are near a border, it's simpler to find the closest city that's large enough to have more in services and organizations. I live in NY but on the border of PA. Even then, its' a toss up whether to drive out to NY city or as far as Pittsburgh (one about 3 hours plus travel and the other even further). Even our health provider carries only an urgent care center we can use about 45 minutes away in PA. Cincinnati is a very large city directly on the other side of the state while Cleveland is a bit closer but if you aren't around these areas by a couple hours, it's a vacation (and not a nice one for these cities when you aren't used to driving there). I have gone as far as NY city once as it's the closest but it was a nightmare.

I've googled and called many rescues showing up in NY and PA (not Ohio-on the other side of PA where I am but I remember it's the same as I've lived and worked in Ohio [Sandusky] during my earlier years). It becomes frustrating that they are so far or one is listed in the area and are not right for the guinea pigs you already have. We put some months into this. There was one even in Ithaca that came up in a rescue, only about an hour from me, but by the time I could get out there again for a first visit, she had been adopted out. They also are adopted frequently by the volunteers of the rescues themselves (something that's always a good thing), but are kept listed. I've literally run into this a couple times when watching for rescue.
 
Yeah, CJ's is about 45 miles from me. The ones in Columbus, are 1.5 hours if I drive 80 mph the entire way and going the middle of the night to avoid traffic, else it's 2-3 hour ordeal one-way. The one near Toledo is about 3-4 hours one way, and Cincinnati is 5+ hours one way.

I looked at CJ's online (before it was posted above), and it appears to be a smaller "private rescue" that I know nothing about and can't comment personally on how well/not well the place might be. Some of the dates posted linked internally are years old, so again, no comment.

It's good that some will calm over time. The main point though was that something was "off" with that particular pig in the PS. Even though it was pretty, the unnatural colorings, altered eye sockets that looked more like a catfish when looking down at the face vs. more side-oriented sockets, the eyes not being bright and one of them being askew, plus the behavior, is something that someone that's never owned one before, or someone getting one for their kid, etc. might be a bad match for a possible special needs pig. IF I'm right and someone was trying to lock colors/patterns in with it, it might have health issues too.

FWIW, both of my current ones thus far, were pretty calm and well mannered, were much younger, and had been handled. Were eating out of hand very quickly, etc. though the female still can't wheek, but she can vocalize little "beep boop" type sounds and and can purr.

Unless you want to constantly take one to a vet because it's always sick, has genetic defects, etc. it's wise to at least look them over.
 
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