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Chestnut's poorly again

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Millie's-Mummy

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My poor little man is on another 10 day course of Baytril.
Is it something i am doing wrong because he keeps getting this fluid and if it doesn't clear up then he will need a 3 week course.
 
Has the vet checked his heart?

Especially as it is so persistent?

Sending poor Chestnut my vibes!

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He said his heart was fine, could it be that he is over weight?

Chestnut sends thank you wheeks your way

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poor chestnut sending good vibes your way fingers crossed it clears up got no advise as never had this happen to boys sorry
 
Chestnut, your really worrying your mummy, please get better soon, sending healing vibes your way :)!

It's nothing your doing wrong hon, we can't stop them getting sick! Don't beat yourself up! xx
 
You're not doing anything wrong Hun - there's not much info for vets concerning piggie breathing problems if baytril doesn;t cure it. Many vets are only prepared to prescribe what is licensed for piggies (which isn;t much i.e. baytril). Some will use other unlicensed antibiotics (eg septrin) for infections but will stop at that. Others are prepared to try to diagnose the problem if it isn;t infection and try other medications that have proved effective on other animals. It's one of the reason why it's really worth ensuring you know of a cavy-savvy vet or at least one that is prepared to consider alternatives providing the right information can be given to them.


Fluid can occur in several different places - either actually within the lungs (pulmonary oedema) or in the chest cavity itself outside the lungs (Pleural effusion) and it may also occur in the pericaridal membrane around the heart

Causes can include, but are not limited to, infection, heart problems and trauma.

So first step is if baytril isn;t working, you could ask the vet to try another antibioitic (septrin azithromycin or doxycycline). However if the cause isn;t bacterial, the antibiotic will not help (except to prevent secondary infection occurring)

Heart problems don;t just show as a heart murmur/irregularity which is what vets tend to listen for. Muffin had laboured noisy breathing. She was initially treated with baytril for a respiratory infection but that didn;t work. Although there were no irregularities in her heart beat - we found a slightly large heart and fluid around it on X ray. I took in the information from Guinea Lynx and my vet agreed to start heart meds . We put her on fortekor (1mg/ml) and frusemide (2mg/ml) twice daily for 4 weeks. A follow-up X ray showed the chest area clear of fluid. We continued with the fortekor but not the frusemide and her breathing problems came back. She is now back on the combined medication twice daily and back to her old self.

Therefore an X ray may show where the fluid is located (and whether the heart is enlarged) and, depending upon the findings, it;s worth discussing with the vet whether frusemide (a diuretic) can be used to reduce the fluid within the lungs and help Chestnut breathe more easily. I have an older piggie Grommie who occassionally gets very wheezy becuase he has fluid in his chest/lungs. Having the central heating on doesn;t help him so I make sure there are plenty of bowls of water to increase the humidity around him (and put Vicks Vapour bath in the water). However when he gets especially rattly, the vet has said he can have a one off dose of fruseamide (up to 10mg/kg) and then maintained on 2mg/kg twice a day for a few days until he sounds better.

HTH

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its just the rattling sound when he breathes.
He's eating, drinking, peeing and pooping fine.
Running around like a looney lol xx
 
I'm sorry Chestnut is poorly again! Repeated respiratory infections and symptoms like this can be related to heart problems. The difficult thing is that most vets say the heart "sounds" fine, so refuse to examine any further. Some vets perform an ECG to determine heart problems; x-rays won't show all types of heart condition but can be useful for showing enlargement or fluid, as Pebbles said.

Is the rattling sound definitely coming from his chest/lungs? Have you tried an expectorant, or a secretolytic (?) med like Bisolvon?
 
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I listened to his chest and it sounds rattly.
I haven't tried any other meds
 
Be wary about using Doxycycline on guinea pigs. There seems to be a question mark as to whether it is a safe antibiotic.
 
Poor Chestnut, I hope you can get to the bottom of this, but rest assured, none of this is your fault, you are doing absolutely the best you can.
 
Hi,

sorry to hear chestnut is poorly. :(
Rowdee and Gavin send heeling wheeks his way. hug to you too, xxxxx
 
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