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Coco - some possible health issues? Please help! (LONG)

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Hi everyone, I'm here asking for some help for my poor piggie Coco whom I rescued from some rather abusive and neglecting owners about a little less than a month ago after they listed him on Craigslist. Coco was subject to no exercise time and was locked in a tiny cage (those awful ones from the pet store) with little to no interaction, given food with bits that have artificial coloring and kept on that cedar bedding/wood shaving bedding. His nails were also all out of control COMPLETELY and wound around in rings you would have thought belonged on a spiral notebook! :( I was told he is 2, but I have had the continual feeling that he is likely older...

He's always been a quiet piggie, and he has since adoption gotten much better and is so sweet and friendly. Now that he's sick it's just breaking my heart and I can't even sleep when I see him rub his poor piggie nose and at some points I thought I was going to lose him.

Anyway, more to the point: Coco recently caught a URI from a baby guinea pig named Peanut whom I rescued from a friend who had purchased him from a pet store (though Peanut was fine before the day my friend decided to give him up to me). Peanut is now quarantined and completely recovered after a two week round of antibiotics.

But, as for Coco, I had taken him to the vet and he was put on Doxycycline, since he's a three pound piggie (approx 1.36 kg), my vet had prescribed 1.5cc every twelve hours for him, and so far, he's been doing well. At first it was up and down, but his eye that was originally red and extremely watery has completely gone back to being pure white and clear, there is no more eye crust, and the level of sneezing and nose crust is going down as well! But Coco has shown some other problems and now I am seeking help because I just don't know what to do. I've been crying over it endlessly because I just want him to get better.

Though he has been improving on the Doxycycline (he has been on it since Saturday night, which makes this about five or four or so days now, technically four), he still has a bit of the sniffles, though his breathing is wheeze-free. But, for some reason he is eating less even though I have him on probiotics and Vitamin C. He usually is a very voracious eater, whereas now he will eat maybe only a 1/4 of the hay I dish out, and only a handful of pellets. Oddly he seems to not be rapidly losing weight or anything, but I can't help but worry... I did make him a salad yesterday consisting of some dark leafy greens and his favorite bell peppers and cucumbers, which encouraged him to eat a bit more, but he still doesn't have his full appetite back and for some reason, he has now stopped drinking water. I also noticed that his droppings although correct in consistency have turned a lighter brown color (kind of like a dark mocha if you will). He shows no signs of painful pooing or peeing, of which he does both fine, but to a lesser extent (probably due to the fact that he eats and drinks less now)... Coco is decently active and reacts well to his surroundings, oinks fine, but I was wondering if it's supposed to take this long to clear up a URI? His sneezes have become rarer but he still has teensy white mucus when he sneezes and I feel so bad about it all.

I've tried to do my very best with syringe feeding some mashed pellets and some vitamin c, and water as well but he's suddenly begun putting up a fuss about taking his medicine and being fed from the syringe, even though he really doesn't seem lethargic in addition to that.

And what's worse, my boyfriend noticed yesterday that his feet were strangely swollen on his bottom pads while I haven't been well and in and out of the hospital with pneumonia while trying to juggle Coco's health as well... Initially, when I adopted Coco his feet were a tiny bit red and when I brought that up to my vet, he said that it didn't seem too concerning, and "not to worry about it". But how can I not now? :{ I've been reading up on so many academic journals and pages about bumblefoot and URIs and the fatality of all of it and if it has to do with heart problems and so much other stuff! I just feel so torn up about it because I feel bad for not initially following my gut. He is walking fine and runs around during floor time no problem, as well as in and around his CC cage, which I clean twice a week at the LEAST and I can guarantee you he has been living in a good environment!

The soles of Coco's feet on his back legs are red on the ankles and all of his paws are quite puffy and a bit dry, but I see no intensive swelling. They do feel a bit warm, and though he doesn't seem too irritated when I poke at the top of his back legs, he pulls away and hides when I touch his front paws and gears up as if to nip me, though the sweet little thing would never ever do that anyway. He doesn't bite at it and his fur on all his paws is still perfectly fine. Is it bumblefoot? I'm at such a loss...

I'm taking Coco in to see another (supposedly cavy familiar and experienced) vet this Friday, and the appointment alone costs a $58, no treatment included. While money isn't my main concern at all, I am a student based in the US and I'm paying my own tuition, rent and grocery bills, and if things start piling up, I will feel absolutely horrible for not being able to give Coco the care he needs... :(

What can I do to help him and alleviate his pain in the meantime? Please, please help us!

Here are some photos of Coco:

(Here is from the front, a few good pictures of him and his eyes and how he is, just taken now) ... He looks so normal to me, how could anyone even suspect... :(

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Originally his sick eye
His normal eye

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One of his back feet
Other back foot
Front paw
Last paw
 
If it helps any at all as well, I hope I'm right about his seemingly improved state (somewhat....).... his eye was originally like this:
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Thank you so much to anyone who is willing to help or give some advice; I'm REALLY in need of it. :(
 
Coco is currently munching down on some more fresh new hay I just put out for him, as well as some more cucumbers and some kale and romaine lettuce...
His appetite seems better and I just gave him his dosage of doxycycline. His poos are back to their normal color, but now they're half the size of what they usually would be... Bad thing after bad thing... I hope he's okay... :/
 
hi there. where are you located in the US? guinealynx.com has a list of reccomended vets in the states. it's frustrating being in the US myself, at not having the best cavy savvy vets that our other UK members have access to. Maybe he is drinking less water because you increased his veggie intake? i know cucumbers and lettuce can be very moist and can make it seem like he is drinking less becaue he gets his water from the vegs. just a thought. his eye definitely looks better, not nearly as red. his feet are a little concerning though. i don't have experience with bumblefoot myself; but from pictures of it from guinealynx it doesn't look the same. http://www.guinealynx.info/pododermatitis.html are those whiteish spots on his feet his actual coloring? if not that is concerning. also have you been weighing him? another thought would be maybe his teeth need looked at, since he isn't eating as much. sorry this post is kind of scattered; just bouncing ideas off you. he is gorgeous, and i hope you get to the bottom of it. and well done for saving him from his original home, sounds awful!
 
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Thank you for replying; I'm located in Western Massachusetts in the Amherst area. I go to university around here and it's been frustrating as ever trying to get a hold of competent cavy savvy vets.

Coco's droppings actually suddenly look normal again after I sat and made sure he ate a teensy bit more veggies and pellets. Perhaps a bit soft? I gave him some probiotics a bit ago. He seems a bit better but his nose is still congested and his breathing sounds stuffy when he sniffs (almost like chutting but muted). . . It's so on and off; sometimes he looks as good a new and sometimes he just seems godawful and suffering. He's laying down right next to me right now and snuggling into his fleece.

The white colorings on Coco's feet have been like that since I have gotten him, and I'm fairly angry with the other vet I saw who said it was probably nothing. I should definitely not have trusted them--something definitely seems wrong... I just hope that if this is perhaps some early stage of bumblefoot I can get into contact with members who can maybe point me in the right direction as to what I can help Coco with other than some more obvious antibiotics he is sure to be loaded up on at the vets. :(
 
I am sorry he has been so poorly. It does look like the antibitoics are working as his eye looks better. If he is stuffy in his nose, you could ask your vet about Bisolvon (if it is available in the US) as it will help clear the mucus. If he had fluid on his chest I would also recommend diuretics but I think you have said it is not on his chest, is something to ask the vet about though. As for heart, yes URI's can be a sign of a heart condition but it is usually recurring ones, I would hang fire on worrying about that for now unless it keeps coming back. My late Nigel came to me on Doxycycline having had recurring URIs for months and he was diagnosed as a heart pig and yes he did have bumbelfoot as his circulation was compromised.

I am not 100% that this looks like Bumblefoot, but see what your vet thinks and they will be able to recommend a product in the US.

Last year I fostered a little pig for a few weeks who was extremely poorly and had bumblefoot and I was recommended this product:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0025YOJXS/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

He was only with us a short while as he had to be PTS due to other health issues but it did help in the time I was using it. It may be available in the US.

I hope all that helps, as for his poos, if they are still not right I would get some probiotic as it will help whilst he is on antibiotics. He needs to have it at least an hour apart from the antibiotics though.
 
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The other thing aswell is that if his nose is stuffy he will be choosing to breathe rather than eat, so if you could get the Bisolovon it would help.

Also, you could try steam therpay with a product like this:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Betterware-...&qid=1385024072&sr=8-3&keywords=steam+inhaler

Fill it with boling water, add 2 drops of Olbas oil and hold it over his nose in 5 second bursts. He may hate it but it has helped my own pigs in the past.
 
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Hi there, firstly I wouldn't be it's all concerned about the foot, it simply looks like a pigmentation issue.

As far as the UTI goes, Doxycycline is one of the tetracycline family of antibiotics, and side effects are numerous, (they even include breathing difficulties)

It could simply be that Coco is having a reaction to the drug, you have to bear in mind that all antibiotics, will in some way affect the tummy's friendly bacteria, hence the change in Poo colour , and it could possibly account for the loss of appetite,

Coco's eyes,! I have a pig called Percy, that I rescued from the R.S.P.C.A, they had successfully treated quite a severe respiratory infection( URI ) but it left him with chronic weepy eyes, That was over 3 years ago and he still has chronic weepy eyes

As long as cocoa is eating some food, and not losing weight, I would not stress him out by trying any other treatments,

As far as his breathing issues are concerned, I have had a great deal of success with paediatric sudafed surup, 0.1ml would usually ease the breathing substantially for up to 12 hours
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/ear-nose-and-throat/medicines/sudafed-childrens-syrup.html

Also has already stated Olabas oil will also help
 
Thank you all for the helpful replies! I will be taking them into mind. I'm still a little anxious.

I took Coco to the vet this past Friday and he checked him up and said Coco was completely healthy and fine, but oddly the second we got home Coco started this habit of puffing up and sitting in the corner looking rather miserly unless we take him out and play with him or pet him. He was never that active a pig in the first place, but now he seems especially less active... I'm not sure either, but in my opinion (some people said this is normal) he has suddenly begun breathing a bit faster and spends much of his time trying to pass poos in the corner, and his poos have gotten considerably smaller (2x smaller than his normal banana-shaped poos)... :(

The vet said his molars were fine, his teeth and his fur and everything seemed in order including his lungs and heart, just to keep him on the vitamin c and probiotics and antibiotics for another week as scheduled. He told me all of this in an exam that lasted about fifteen minutes and I don't know -- I couldn't help but feel a little cheated. Nothing he told me was something I wasn't aware of and I ended up having to dish out 60 dollars for this (hate to say it, but) lousy exam. He was apparently the only cavvy savy vet in this area too... Supposedly... :/ I took numerous bus rides out just to get to him.

It's this constant fight of ups and downs and I'm so worried about my little piggie... He eats much less now and has been losing weight and when I brought that up to my vet he said it might just be all a side effect of being on the Doxycycline and said not to worry about it. I have been syringe feeding him, but it does not seem as though it seems to be helping much. Coco will only eat and drink very small amounts on his own and has gotten extremely fussy with eating and drinking through the syringe. He is still reactive to his surroundings if we do something, but he doesn't move around much anymore.

I guess the only good news now is that my vet also said, as you all confirmed, not to worry about his feet; pigmentation problems were probably just due to the neglect of his previous owners from whom I rescued him.

Sigh... What do I do? ...

P.S. Does anyone have any experiencing with their guinea pigs suddenly becoming picky with their hay? Coco will now only eat the firmer stalks of his hay bunch rather than the soft leaves, which I know is typically the opposite... what's happening? :(
 
I'm almost positive now that he's been bloated, even during the vet trip when the vet told me he probably was not. I had just given him 0.5ml of olive oil to see if it'd help and he seems a tiny bit better. When I went to pick him up, I heard gurgling and a distinct popping noise coming from his belly. :/ so much for a reliable vet.
 
That's good news about his feet. Am sorry you had a disappointing visit to the vets, we build our hopes up that they will be able to solve everything and then we don't get what we want from the appointment. It does sound to me like he is reacting to the Doxy. If he is bloated is there a more local vet you could go to about this? the olive oil was a good idea though and should help but he will likely need gut stimulants too and some kind of pain relief.

Is he still snotty or has that cleared now?

If his tummy is uncomfortable he won't want to eat. It's possible he is picking the hay that he knows will help him, when my Millie is bloated she eats nothing but hay and is selective over which bits she chooses.
 
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I'm basically at my last wits right now. Coco is refusing to eat except maybe one or two pieces of hay and no longer wheeks as loud as he used to. His breathing is still out of control fast and now he just seems to occasionally drink a few mouthfuls of water on his own (I try syringe feeding him food but he fights and screams and it just makes me feel awful). He just sits in the corner and puffs up if I leave him alone and if I cuddle with him, he just snuggles up and sleeps with me longer than he used to.

All his snot and crust is gone now, but his belly does feel like a huge balloon and he is not passing feces and now not urinating much. What am I supposed to do? I'm on the verge of tears because I don't want to lose Coco because he's more than "just a pig" to me... :(

He isn't done with his doxy until next Saturday... The olive oil doesn't seem to be helping him anymore. I tried everything, and now he won't even touch his favorite treats and only ate half a cucumber slice. The vet that I had previously went to was the only clinic that accepted guinea pigs and I don't feel as though I can even rely on him anymore what with his awful, stupid misdiagnosis last time.

What do I do.... Sigh...
 
I just weighed Coco and he is now down to a little under 2 pounds. He used to be 3.
I just.. sigh...
 
I am sorry he is so poorly but this is now an emergency and he needs to see a vet today as soon as possible. Will the local vet not even see a guinea pig in an emergency? I find that appalling if so, even if they specialise in other animals surely it is their responsibility to help a suffering animal. If they won't see him then I am afraid he needs to go back to the other vet. His whole system is shutting down and he needs veterinary help to get things moving again and if that is not possible help him on his way. A puffed up pig is a very poorly one I am afraid. Please see a vet as soon as you can.
 
hi vii, where are you located? you said it cost 60 dollars, so it sounds like you are in the US? guinealynx.com has a vet list on there that features US practices. good luck, and i'm sorry Coco is so unwell. let us know how it goes.
 
The vet is on vacation... go figure. And I asked the VCA animal hospital if they'd take guinea pigs despite the fact that they don't and mentioned that Coco's life could be in danger. They said they just "didn't have a doctor" and couldn't do anything. Are you joking...? He's home with me now and back to eating on the syringe again, with some fuss but less than before. He moves a tiny bit now but still, not much. His droppings are normal colored now, but have gotten slightly mucousy... :/ I'm calling in with the vet tomorrow. I really need Coco to see a good vet and he really needs help... Coco also keeps whimpering/whining it seems like and all he likes to do when I give him floor time is run a bit around, then find a dark corner and or run back to my lap and lay next to me.

He is still puffy and sitting in the corner or hiding in his hidey house. I just gave him some pedialyte and his antibiotics and for once since a VERY long time, he is munching on some hay. I'm very worried because he was symptomless for a good half week, and when I woke up this morning his nose was the crustiest thing I had ever seen. :(

Coco has to go see a vet, so I will look in on those resources. Thank you.
 
The nearest guinea pig vet to me now is "known for giving medications lethal to cavys" in Pittsfield. :|
 
This really is an emergency, is there anyone who can take you further afield? If not I would go to the one in Pittsfield but take a list of medications that are lethal to guinea pigs with you. I would expect there to be a link on Guinealynx.

I am appalled at your other vet for saying they just don't have someone to look at him, this is a life or death situation and it is in their oath to help a sick animal. Some vets here aren't specialised in pigs but they would still treat one in an emergency.
 
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