Considering euthanasia and struggling with the idea

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This isn’t the update I wanted to make. This is Hams owner, who I posted about earlier this week. But this isn’t about Ham, it’s about his bar buddy Ed. Ed has always been a quiet, sweet guy. Doesn’t love being held. But always gives kisses. Chews on his bars instead of making sounds (I know, so bad for his teeth, but I could never get him to stop no matter what I tried). Especially in his old age (7), he’s been gentle and quiet. We’ve had a rough few months with him and his brothers health. In and out of the vet constantly. Every time, the dr gives us three options: euthanasia, do one test/med and hope it fixes things, or spend thousands upon thousands doing every little thing because we can never fully pinpoint his symptoms.

Ed has always been a jumper. Meaning, when I try to put him back in his enclosure he tries to leap out of my hands. He managed to earlier this week, and he landed weird. It wasn’t that high of a jump, maybe 5 inches? But like I said, he landed weird. The next day I noticed his toe was way further away from his other ones than usual. I was looking because he made a noise that sounded like pain when I picked him up for his morning meds. I don’t know if it’s broken, but I scheduled a vet appointment because I knew he needed to get looked at and maybe put on some pain meds. I feel unbelievably guilty for it. I try to hold onto him, but he is SO insistent on reaching the ground faster than I can manage to set him down. He’s my baby and it it’s killing me knowing something happened that could have been prevented.

But that’s the least of his problems right now. He was eating less after, which I attributed to pain, but it just kept escalating until last night, when he began refusing critical care too. The only thing I can get him to eat consistently is hay seed heads and carrots. I put critical care on the carrot and have been tricking him into eating it, which is helpful, but he’s not eating nearly enough to sustain himself. I’m calling the vet as soon as they open to see if they have an opening and if not I’m doing an emergency appointment. I stayed up all night monitoring him and feeding him as often as I could and as much as he’d allow. I feel awful. Having elderly guinea pigs is crushing me. I love them so much. Ed is the sweetest boy and I hate to see him not happy. We’re having more bad days than good right now. Same for Ham. It seems to me like they are declining very similarly. I think it’s sweet that it seems they’re going together. But that only makes it more painful for me. I’m trying to hold it together, but these boys are what hold me together. I’m terrified for this appointment because I know that one of these times I’ll have to make a very hard decision.
 
This isn’t the update I wanted to make. This is Hams owner, who I posted about earlier this week. But this isn’t about Ham, it’s about his bar buddy Ed. Ed has always been a quiet, sweet guy. Doesn’t love being held. But always gives kisses. Chews on his bars instead of making sounds (I know, so bad for his teeth, but I could never get him to stop no matter what I tried). Especially in his old age (7), he’s been gentle and quiet. We’ve had a rough few months with him and his brothers health. In and out of the vet constantly. Every time, the dr gives us three options: euthanasia, do one test/med and hope it fixes things, or spend thousands upon thousands doing every little thing because we can never fully pinpoint his symptoms.

Ed has always been a jumper. Meaning, when I try to put him back in his enclosure he tries to leap out of my hands. He managed to earlier this week, and he landed weird. It wasn’t that high of a jump, maybe 5 inches? But like I said, he landed weird. The next day I noticed his toe was way further away from his other ones than usual. I was looking because he made a noise that sounded like pain when I picked him up for his morning meds. I don’t know if it’s broken, but I scheduled a vet appointment because I knew he needed to get looked at and maybe put on some pain meds. I feel unbelievably guilty for it. I try to hold onto him, but he is SO insistent on reaching the ground faster than I can manage to set him down. He’s my baby and it it’s killing me knowing something happened that could have been prevented.

But that’s the least of his problems right now. He was eating less after, which I attributed to pain, but it just kept escalating until last night, when he began refusing critical care too. The only thing I can get him to eat consistently is hay seed heads and carrots. I put critical care on the carrot and have been tricking him into eating it, which is helpful, but he’s not eating nearly enough to sustain himself. I’m calling the vet as soon as they open to see if they have an opening and if not I’m doing an emergency appointment. I stayed up all night monitoring him and feeding him as often as I could and as much as he’d allow. I feel awful. Having elderly guinea pigs is crushing me. I love them so much. Ed is the sweetest boy and I hate to see him not happy. We’re having more bad days than good right now. Same for Ham. It seems to me like they are declining very similarly. I think it’s sweet that it seems they’re going together. But that only makes it more painful for me. I’m trying to hold it together, but these boys are what hold me together. I’m terrified for this appointment because I know that one of these times I’ll have to make a very hard decision.

BIG HUGS

I am very sorry. You may find that the decision has already been taken out of your hands and that Ed has already started his journey to the Rainbow Bridge with his body closing down.

At this great age at the upper end of the average life span, a natural death is often pretty quick and fairly straight forward - although it can still be rather physical. It is tough for us when we come up against the much faster metabolism of guinea pigs and when it turns against them. There is nothing you or a vet can do once a major organ packs in.
Be sad and upset but also be proud of having got your boys to such a great age.

Unless Ed is in great pain for any longer than half an hour or the dying process is not moving on, please allow him to make the journey from his familiar surroundings in his own way and time. It is a lot less stressful for him than a rush to the vets.
You may find that the stage at the very end when oxygen deprivation hits the limbs and body can be somewhat distressing for any loving owner who has never witnessed it 'running to the Rainbow Bridge' or falling over but you have to also tell yourself that the oxygen deprivation is equally affecting the brain and that your little one is pretty much out of it by then.

You can find more details and practical advice in the guide below. I am only too well aware that this is absolutely not what you want to see right now - but you can always find the strength to be there for somebody you love, even when you struggle with your own mind and mental strength. In a crunch, your love and sense of responsibility will generally win out. We are here for you to help you with emotional fallout.

A Practical and Sensitive Guide to Dying, Terminal Illness and Euthanasia in Guinea Pigs

I hope that this helps you? I am very sorry that it is such a horrible time for you; I truly wish I could have given you better news.
 
Aw I am so sorry 😞 I agree with Wiebke and it sadly seems that Ed is already making his way to the rainbow bridge. But please take heart that he has reached an amazing age and that is down to your good care of both him and Ham ❤️

Please keep him warm and comfortable while he makes his way to the rainbow bridge and leave him B if he doesn’t appear to be in any pain.

(((Hugs))) the dying process isn’t easy for us watching our beloved pets leave this world but being there for him is a one of the greatest gifts you can give x
 
This isn’t the update I wanted to make. This is Hams owner, who I posted about earlier this week. But this isn’t about Ham, it’s about his bar buddy Ed. Ed has always been a quiet, sweet guy. Doesn’t love being held. But always gives kisses. Chews on his bars instead of making sounds (I know, so bad for his teeth, but I could never get him to stop no matter what I tried). Especially in his old age (7), he’s been gentle and quiet. We’ve had a rough few months with him and his brothers health. In and out of the vet constantly. Every time, the dr gives us three options: euthanasia, do one test/med and hope it fixes things, or spend thousands upon thousands doing every little thing because we can never fully pinpoint his symptoms.

Ed has always been a jumper. Meaning, when I try to put him back in his enclosure he tries to leap out of my hands. He managed to earlier this week, and he landed weird. It wasn’t that high of a jump, maybe 5 inches? But like I said, he landed weird. The next day I noticed his toe was way further away from his other ones than usual. I was looking because he made a noise that sounded like pain when I picked him up for his morning meds. I don’t know if it’s broken, but I scheduled a vet appointment because I knew he needed to get looked at and maybe put on some pain meds. I feel unbelievably guilty for it. I try to hold onto him, but he is SO insistent on reaching the ground faster than I can manage to set him down. He’s my baby and it it’s killing me knowing something happened that could have been prevented.

But that’s the least of his problems right now. He was eating less after, which I attributed to pain, but it just kept escalating until last night, when he began refusing critical care too. The only thing I can get him to eat consistently is hay seed heads and carrots. I put critical care on the carrot and have been tricking him into eating it, which is helpful, but he’s not eating nearly enough to sustain himself. I’m calling the vet as soon as they open to see if they have an opening and if not I’m doing an emergency appointment. I stayed up all night monitoring him and feeding him as often as I could and as much as he’d allow. I feel awful. Having elderly guinea pigs is crushing me. I love them so much. Ed is the sweetest boy and I hate to see him not happy. We’re having more bad days than good right now. Same for Ham. It seems to me like they are declining very similarly. I think it’s sweet that it seems they’re going together. But that only makes it more painful for me. I’m trying to hold it together, but these boys are what hold me together. I’m terrified for this appointment because I know that one of these times I’ll have to make a very hard decision.

Hi

How is Ed and how are you today?

Thinking of you.
 
Hi

How is Ed and how are you today?

Thinking of you.
Hi! I’m sorry I didn’t update sooner. Yesterday was incredibly rough. My regular vet wasn’t there today, it was a new one who had never seen either of my boys before. I believe if it had been my regular vet, it would have gone a little differently. We did an x ray of his toe, it’s a slight dislocation. They put him on a 4 day buprenorphine for it and saw slight arthritis so he’s on gabapentin too. We did blood work too and everything was good. The biggest concern is his eating. The vet was really optimistic. I’m not so sure. He wanted me to do 3-4 syringe feedings a day, but he literally will not eat it. No matter how hard I try, he just spits it out. He’s eating some hay, and has been eating more pellets than before, but not all of them. He doesn’t want to walk around today. This is all really frustrating and has been so hard. It’s affecting my health too. I have a few health conditions and I didn’t eat all day yesterday (I also hadn’t slept the night before) because I was so focused on him and had this weird out of body experience when I finally did try to eat. I thought I was dying. I couldn’t see, I couldn’t keep my eyes open, I was in so much pain. It was really scary. I’m scared for the future. This is all so hard. But the most important thing is that my boy isn’t in pain, and with the pain meds, I’m sure he won’t be. I’m not sure why the next few days are going to look like.
 

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BIG HUGS

I am so very sorry that you have such strong reaction to the high stress situation.

Please be aware that both buprenorphine and gabapentin can knock out piggies quite a bit and also impact on the appetite.

Continue with the feeding; if possible little but more often (about every 2 hours during the day if you can). You are aiming for 40 ml at the very least or as close as you can get to over the course of 24 hours but make sure that you get time to sleep and also for your own mental hygiene.

Unfortunately, this is the kind of situation where you just have to try and push through, keep on trying and hope for the best. The good news is that what he has is a very painful thing but it is not organ failure.

Just try your best to hang in there but make sure that you look after yourself as well. If you struggle with meals, try grazing for yourself as well.

Fingers firmly crossed!
 
So very sorry that you are in this situation with your beloved boys. I have done something similar and it is so hard but remember you are doing your very best. Try to remember to look after yourself too ❤️
 
The meds might be making him feel a bit drowsy so he might not take the syringe feed super well - but he is unlikely to be in any pain which is great
Just keep persevering - it’s really promising that he is eating hay and nuggets on his own!
Take a deep breath, maybe go for a walk in the fresh air, you may find it helps to give you a bit of perspective on things.
He is comfortable and safe with you, and you are doing all you can.
You’ve got this 💪
 
Smallest of updates: I’ve found a way to force feed in a way he can’t spit out. It’s going to be really slow but I would do anything to help him feel better
 
He is still acting out of it and his last dose of meds was at around 11 this morning. I emailed the vet to see if I should give him less buprenorphine because this doesn’t feel normal. Ham is on buprenorphine and has never acted like this. He hasn’t moved pretty much at all unless prompted to. I’m going to have to wash pee out of his fur on his stomach so he doesn’t get burns because he isn’t moving out of it:(
 
Another tiny update: I’m trying to feed him but this feels impossible. I’ve been sitting here with him for 45 minutes trying to get him to eat and I’ve only got 3 mls of critical care into him because he holds it in his mouth for so long. I don’t know what to do
 
Sorry for posting so much. He’s pooping a ton but they don’t look normal. Is this okay given he just started new meds?
 

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Please never apologise for posting however many times you need to 🙏
We are here for you even though you at times must feel alone. Take each hour at a time and try not to overthink what's happening.
We can all only do our best in any situation. What critical care are you using would trying a different flavour encourage him more perhaps? 💐
 
Please never apologise for posting however many times you need to 🙏
We are here for you even though you at times must feel alone. Take each hour at a time and try not to overthink what's happening.
We can all only do our best in any situation. What critical care are you using would trying a different flavour encourage him more perhaps? 💐
I didn’t even know they made other flavors! I’ll be getting that soon!
 
I just want to thank you all for your support. I’m pretty isolated because of my physical and mental health. My only true support is my mum. She’s the only person I know I can count on. My small friend group has offered me little comfort in all of this. You all have given me the strength to keep fighting when it feels like I’ve had no one in my corner for so long. I appreciate it and my boys appreciate it because all of the advice I’ve gotten has been so so helpful. My boys are truly my rock and feeling like I’m losing them has shaken me. But now I don’t feel so alone and I can give them my full attention without all of the stress of carrying my fear and worry about them on my own. Thank you all so much.
 
Bless you ❤️ I know longer have guinea pigs but when I did, I came here for support when they were unwell as apart from my parents and husband, I didn’t get much support either. But we have all been where you are now (((hugs))) we understand x
 
I just want to thank you all for your support. I’m pretty isolated because of my physical and mental health. My only true support is my mum. She’s the only person I know I can count on. My small friend group has offered me little comfort in all of this. You all have given me the strength to keep fighting when it feels like I’ve had no one in my corner for so long. I appreciate it and my boys appreciate it because all of the advice I’ve gotten has been so so helpful. My boys are truly my rock and feeling like I’m losing them has shaken me. But now I don’t feel so alone and I can give them my full attention without all of the stress of carrying my fear and worry about them on my own. Thank you all so much.
You are so welcome ❤️
I really hope he picks up soon - we’ve been using emeraid sustain with mint for a while now with poorly pigs and they all seem to love it - I know they did an apple and banana too, not sure if they still do? X
 
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