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Hi:)p i have adopted peanut off petcrazey today to be housed with ralphie (neutered) and his 2 ladies ive introduced them on neuteral ground and all seemed good until ralphie tried to mount her and she nipped him not hard but it pxxxed him off and ever since he has been teeth cattering at her to the point where he was getting wound up so now ive had to divide the cage,
am i doing something wrong?or is this normal has ive never introduced a female to a male and 2 female group before i was 100% sure every thing would be ok
 
Wish I could help I'm useless I've only ever introduced a neutered boar to a lady/ladies and I should clarify everything went fine.

I'm sure it's just teething troubles and someone will be along soon with helpful information hun.
 
another thing he was doing is turning round and wiping his bum all over her sides what does this mean is it a dominance thing?/ is this a good thing?
 
I think I'd leave them to sort it out for themselves as long as they're not causing each other any physical harm. The problem with splitting them up is that each time you put them back together they'll start all over again.

I'm sure it wont take them long to calm down :)

Teresa x
 
Sounds like he was scent marking her and she isn't appreciating his attention and told him where to go and he got a strop on (got offended and annoyed) about it. So long as they aren't fighting I'd let them sort it out.
 
i thought about doing this but ralphie was chattering really loud and puffing his hair up a was like aaawwwww god just wait a bit longer and i left them for around half an hour then he would settle down then start again:...:...:... it was has loud as when boars are getting a bit pxxxed off with each other and you need to separate...god what do i do,,they can still see smell and talk to each other via the mesh but i have plans for there hutch there in by adding and upper leavel and want them all to live in it happly:(
 
Modwyn said:
Sounds like he was scent marking her and she isn't appreciating his attention and told him where to go and he got a strop on (got offended and annoyed) about it. So long as they aren't fighting I'd let them sort it out.
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you know funny you should say that when he tried to mount her and she nipped him his face looked like thunder :)) as if to say dont you give me the lip woman:(|):(|):(|)
 
ive never had this trouble claire, maybe try giving her a bath ? whenever i introduce a new female to my neutered males they always seem to sense its a new girl and do all the normal boy things, they do normally settle down though:) you can always bring her back if its going to be a problem :)
 
A very few girls do not like boars.

a) You can either leave them all together and sort it out amongst them, provided there are no bloody fights

or, as you have separated

b) You could leave them mesh to mesh to get to know each other slowly and then try again when Peanut is coming into season and may be more amenable to Ralphie's advances.

Sometimes it can be better taking the softly softly approach and taking things very slowly. The change in environment combined with the confrontation with a male piggy can just have been a bit too much for Peanut.

When I rehomed Fflur, I put her with my most submissive sow for a day or two next to the others so she could settle in gradually, and did the introductions on neutral ground only when I was sure that Fflur was well and ready for the rest of the tribe and wasn't afraid of meeting them anymore.
 
He was definitely scent marking.

I would give it 24 hoursw for them all to get used to each other through the mesh and try again.

Big space, neutral, LOTS of veggies (if she's used to them), and see how it goes.

I expect she's feeling very scared simply from being rehomed and all the strange stress that goes with that. Maybe tomorrow after a sleep and getting used to the smell of them all she will feel more tolerant to his advances?

Good luck Claire! I hope it works out for them all.
 
It is difficult in a few cases, there are times when the neutered boar is dominant and "male" enough to get aggressive when the sow doesn't accept his 'advances'. It sounds like he is very dominant and she is simply standing her ground. It is good that she isn't fighting back, but it's a risk leaving him with her when he's clearly so riled by the way she's not doing everything she's told!

There are a few things you could try:

1) Let them live side by side with the divider between them for a week or two, until they can live beside each other without getting wound up.
2) Keep them separate for a couple of cage cleans, but put them in each others cages the day before cleaning out so they get used to each others scent.
3) Try putting a soft toy/teddy in the cage with them. If he has an urge and she won't oblige him, he might recognise that he can go take it out (harmlessly) on the teddy instead. Pandora was the same as Peanut, refused to let Harrison have his way, so Harry just kept going to the poor teddy instead of getting wound up with her.

Also, lots of food. Big handful of hay for them to eat, some veggies too - try and help them find a mutual love. It serves more as a distraction, of course, but still maybe worth a try.
 
petcrazy said:
ive never had this trouble claire, maybe try giving her a bath ? whenever i introduce a new female to my neutered males they always seem to sense its a new girl and do all the normal boy things, they do normally settle down though:) you can always bring her back if its going to be a problem :)
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no way i wont bring her back in totallyx)x)x) i am going to work my hardest with them and try again with them 2moz and keep trying and trying until they bond I'm just hoping it is teething problems:... but regardless i will keep her and if it wont work with her and ralphie i will pair her up with a sow and keep her toorolleyes
 
ok Claire :)
glad you like her:)
you've been given some good advice by the others, fingers crossed that it works out and doesn't cause you too much stress, it was lovely meeting you today :)
 
ok Claire :)
glad you like her:)
you've been given some good advice by the others, fingers crossed that it works out and doesn't cause you too much stress, it was lovely meeting you today :)
 
Laura-CCC4 said:
It is difficult in a few cases, there are times when the neutered boar is dominant and "male" enough to get aggressive when the sow doesn't accept his 'advances'. It sounds like he is very dominant and she is simply standing her ground. It is good that she isn't fighting back, but it's a risk leaving him with her when he's clearly so riled by the way she's not doing everything she's told!

There are a few things you could try:

1) Let them live side by side with the divider between them for a week or two, until they can live beside each other without getting wound up.
2) Keep them separate for a couple of cage cleans, but put them in each others cages the day before cleaning out so they get used to each others scent.
3) Try putting a soft toy/teddy in the cage with them. If he has an urge and she won't oblige him, he might recognise that he can go take it out (harmlessly) on the teddy instead. Pandora was the same as Peanut, refused to let Harrison have his way, so Harry just kept going to the poor teddy instead of getting wound up with her.

Also, lots of food. Big handful of hay for them to eat, some veggies too - try and help them find a mutual love. It serves more as a distraction, of course, but still maybe worth a try.
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thanx laura:) some usefull advice, ralphie does already have 2 females that live with him do you think a teddy will still be needed?
they have the mesh stopping peanut and ralphie getting together and they dont seem to be bothered no teeth chattering etc,hoping this is a good sign.
the sows seemed to get on with peanut and peanut was sitting with them and ralphie eatting some grass i brought in when he tried to mount peanut she let him at first then nipped him and he stood there like dumb struck then this is when the teeth chattering started even the other sows who have been with him for 3 mths moved out of the way and when he calmed down they were all round him sniffing him as if to say whats up are you ok calm down...:)
 
petcrazy said:
ok Claire :)
glad you like her:)
you've been given some good advice by the others, fingers crossed that it works out and doesn't cause you too much stress, it was lovely meeting you today :)
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it was lovely meeting you,keep up the good work you really do a great job and have a great set up x
 
It might be easier to bond them when she's in season. Although they don't always make that obvious. Supposedly you can tell by looking at their bits, but someone who knows sows better than I do would have to tell you that.
 
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