Do you think the op is needed?

[Swissgreys]

Moru is clearly a real personality - I am totally in love with her fighting spirit.
Fingers crossed she continues to do well.

 

[Merab]

So pleased to hear that Moru has done so well after her op.
I’ve been thinking about you today.
You can relax now, get a good night’s sleep and love Moru back to full health

 

[Kosson]

I hope you all have a good night.

Thank you - We slept well. Now I think Moru is in more or less in pain. She does not eat much of her veg bowl... I will give her pain relief.

 

[Kosson]

Can't believe I missed this thread! What a worrying time you have had. I hope Moru makes a full recovery. You may have to syringe feed her if she doesn't eat properly after her operation. Here is the guide for you:-

Complete Syringe Feeding Guide

Yes I was really worried so much! The operation went well yesterday but I think Moru is in pain now. She does not eat as much as usual, though she ate some hay, a slice of cucumber and try to eat cut tomato (about a quarter) from time to time. I will give her pain relief and see how it goes.

 

[Kosson]

Moru is clearly a real personality - I am totally in love with her fighting spirit.
Fingers crossed she continues to do well.

Yes, really! She has a strong personality, when Kosson made sound, she gave a good grrrrrrr from the first day she came here (She was just one or two months old and Kosson 4 years old). And she is caring - she licked me to confort me when I was crying in agony after Kosson went to the rainbow bridge...

I think she is in pain right now and she does not eat much. But she makes nice crrrrr sound when I caress her. I hope the pain relief works and she recovers well soon.

 

[Kosson]

So pleased to hear that Moru has done so well after her op.
I’ve been thinking about you today.
You can relax now, get a good night’s sleep and love Moru back to full health

That is very very sweet of you. Thank you.
We slept very well (at least me and seemingly my daughter), but now Moru seems to be in pain. I will give her pain relief in 10 minutes time (I am just waiting that she relaxes - I am sure this action gives her extra stress so I don't want to do everything at once). I am again so concerned but I should not show this feelings to Moru, which is rather difficult, especially since guinea pigs can sense their mums' feelings very well.

 

[Swissgreys]

That is very very sweet of you. Thank you.
We slept very well (at least me and seemingly my daughter), but now Moru seems to be in pain. I will give her pain relief in 10 minutes time (I am just waiting that she relaxes - I am sure this action gives her extra stress so I don't want to do everything at once). I am again so concerned but I should not show this feelings to Moru, which is rather difficult, especially since guinea pigs can sense their mums' feelings very well.

Hopefully that will help.
Please bear in mind that many vets are not aware of how fast guinea pigs metabolise pain relief and tend to under prescribe. It is made even more difficult by very few medications being licenced for use in guinea pigs.
If she still seems ot be in pain after the pain relief it may be worth speaking to your vet and asking for more.
Is she taking Metacam?

 

[sport_billy]

Sending love and recovery vibes to Moru, keep up with the pain killer and if it seems it is not doing the job ring the vet to adjust the dose.

 

[Kosson]

Hopefully that will help.
Please bear in mind that many vets are not aware of how fast guinea pigs metabolise pain relief and tend to under prescribe. It is made even more difficult by very few medications being licenced for use in guinea pigs.
If she still seems ot be in pain after the pain relief it may be worth speaking to your vet and asking for more.
Is she taking Metacam?

No, she is taking Meloxidyl (Maloxicam). Apparently this medication is for dogs and the attached paper does say once per day (24h interval). But I think you are right I guess guinea pig's metabolism is much faster than that of a dog.
She took the medication around 10h40 and since 12h she looks 'normal' - eats a lots, jump to the top of the hidings, good mood.

I keep record (even vaguely) her food intake and action. I think she is eating sufficiently but I will keep watching.

 

[Kosson]

Sending love and recovery vibes to Moru, keep up with the pain killer and if it seems it is not doing the job ring the vet to adjust the dose.

Thank you for the vibes, that will definitely work! The pain killer seems to work now (took it at 10h40 and seems to work from 12h - now it is 14h40 she is very happy!) she comes out her hiding once very often and each time she nibbles some hay or pellet mix. Yes I will call the vet should the pain killer does not seem work properly and if she seems to be suffered. I feel very happy to see Moru happily nibbling.

 

[Betsy]

No, she is taking Meloxidyl (Maloxicam).

That is the same as Metacam.

 

[sport_billy]

That is good news!

 

[Merab]

After Phoebe had her op she was prescribed a daily dose of Metacam - 0.4ml.
That seemed to work well.

If she’s not eating well yet it wouldn’t hurt to top up with a syringe feed, or offer her a small dish of Critical Care in her cage.
I’ve often mixed a small piece of mashed banana in with it which goes down well.
Grated sweet potato with some oats also helps build up a post op piggy

 

[Kosson]

After Phoebe had her op she was prescribed a daily dose of Metacam - 0.4ml.
That seemed to work well.

If she’s not eating well yet it wouldn’t hurt to top up with a syringe feed, or offer her a small dish of Critical Care in her cage.
I’ve often mixed a small piece of mashed banana in with it which goes down well.
Grated sweet potato with some oats also helps build up a post op piggy

The medication that is equivalent to Metacam the vet prescribed was 'a dog metacam' I guess. I saw Wiebke saying dog metacam is stronger than cat metacam in another thread.
Like for your Phoebe, this should work for one day. Was the one for Phoebe for cat, or for dog?

Around the noon she had a great appetite and she ate some hay from time to time.

Now she is sleeping after doing some sports (meaning walk and run around home) during 1 hour and a half. She was desperate to play yesterday but the vet told us to wait until tomorrow (=today) so she really enjoyed it. I believe her moving a lot means a good sign, but still I will keep my eyes on her.

Tomorrow both the vet and the supermarket are closed so I am little nervous, but at least there are bananas should she loses appetite. Hope everything will be fine, though. Greated sweet potate with some oats sound really energy boost. I have some oats so maybe I should try mashed banana with some oats in case she does not eat much.

 

[Kosson]

I was thinking of posting a new thread but decided to stay here.

It is about weight loss. Before the operation, so yesterday morning, Moru weighted 1170g. Today she weighted 1100g.
The time I weighed Moru was different. As she did not have much appetite this morning I did not think that I can assess correctly even if I weighted her at the same timing as yesterday.
So I weighted her just before her playtime this afternoon.

The unknown object (cyst? lipoma? tumor? - I was told this is more likely a lipoma) was removed and she really had a stressful day yesterday so I guess the difference normal...?

She is generally happy, eats some hay from time to time. It took longer time but she finished her salad bowl. Some of her poo looks a little pointed but some are fine. It seems she eats her poo, too. She is not on antibiotics.

I saw somewhere that if piggy loses more than 50g we should be alerted. Is this to be alerted, or is it OK to keep eye on her, since she does eat, even maybe a little less than usual.

 

[Merab]

Don’t panic about the weight loss - it’s normal for a piggy who has been through surgery.
This is why it’s important to build her up again.

My little Micah lost 90g when he was neutered and then developed an abscess. He was only 690g to start with but is now over 800g.

With normal diet and some boosters which I told you about he began to regain weight.
Don’t worry about Moru’s weight unless she fails to regain any weight at all.
The first few days after an op can be quite stressful.
Dog Metacam is what I was prescribed too.
@Wiebke has given you excellent advice.

Keeping you in my thoughts

 

[Kosson]

Don’t panic about the weight loss - it’s normal for a piggy who has been through surgery.
This is why it’s important to build her up again.

My little Micah lost 90g when he was neutered and then developed an abscess. He was only 690g to start with but is now over 800g.

With normal diet and some boosters which I told you about he began to regain weight.
Don’t worry about Moru’s weight unless she fails to regain any weight at all.
The first few days after an op can be quite stressful.
Dog Metacam is what I was prescribed too.
@Wiebke has given you excellent advice.

Keeping you in my thoughts

Thank you Merab's, it is really assuring.

Since yesterday Moru wants lots of energy boosters, such as banana. I did not give her much, just a slice of 5mm in thickness.
But as I read your reply I think Moru asks it because she needs it. She never asked me that much.

Yes, it is really stressful, as I heard some sad story after op. I believe Moru is doing well, but we can never be certain.
On the one hand Moru was just pop corn jumping around some minutes ago, so I guess I can be a little more relaxed.

Bravo to Micah and you as a great caretaker, he gained more than 110g!

 

[Kosson]

Update 24/08/2019

Moru seemed to be very tired and somewhat in pain in the morning. She did not eat not as much as usual.
But after the pain relief, she rediscovered her appetite. Though she lost about 70g compared to just before the operation yesterday, she looks happy and eats as much as she can.
She went out of her cage to play, actually she desparately wanted to do since yesterday (!) She ran and walked around everywhere for almost 1 hour and a half.
I am glad the second day passed globally well for her. She jumps up and off top of her hideout, she does lots of pop corn jumping, sometimes it is hard to believe this is only day after tomorrow of the operation.

Sometimes she seems to touch her suture with her mouth. It looks more itchy than pain. Sometimes she makes sound like 'rrr rrr' but she is laying down and looks she is asleep. Hope this does not mean she is in some sort of pain.

Though I tend to be concerned things, I think Moru is doing well!

 

[Merab]

It does sound as if Moru is doing really after her op.
We always want our piggies to be better immediately and forget that if we have surgery it takes us time to regain weight and energy.
Keep doing what you’re doing