Do You Think This Plan Will Work?

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As I have explained elsewhere, by now we have lost almost an entire generation of guinea-pigs and Cotton, who will be 7 years old in April, is the only one left. In January, her last elderly friend Brillo died and so we found three young(er) guinea-pigs at an animal shelter and we brought them home about two weeks ago. Since the one boar, Flash, had been neutered in early December, we were advised to leave him on his own for another week if we wanted to be absolutely certain that he wouldn't produce babies anymore. So we first introduced the three ladies to each other: Cotton and the two little ones, Ginger and Oreo, who were born in July last year. We introduced them in a neutral area (bathroom on a fresh, clean blanket) and then put them in the freshly cleaned cage which has two levels. They stayed on the lower level - the tiny new ladies didn't know how to use the ramp and Cotton didn't seem to want to use it. On the first day there was a lot of bickering, but they settled down very well on the second day and on the third day, everything seemed peaceful. And then Cotton walked up the ramp to the upper level and stayed there for the rest of the week. The little ones run around a lot and are extremely chatty, maybe that was too much for her. Once she went down as far as the little balcony in the middle of the ramp, watched the two tiny ones and went back upstairs.

One week later, we introduced them all to Flash, again in the bathroom on a fresh blanket. We put them all on the upper level, but it dodn't take long for Cotton to walk down the ramp to the lower level where she stayed again for almost two days. meanwhile, we were trying to teach the others how to use the ramp by putting vegetable pieces on it and they did start looking at it and going down a few steps, but never all the way down.

After almost two nights, Cotton came back upstairs and Ginger and Oreo threatened her immeadiately, "like two tiny wolves", as my husband said (I had gone to bed) and he had to take Cotton and put her back down. She tried once more a day later, but because the situation had looked so dangerous, my husband had temporarily closed up the hole to the upper level.

Now he has almost finished building a generous extention to the cage. It was a bit on the small side, in our opinion, and if three piggies have to share one level and Cotton gets the other, it is dfeinitely too small. So the lower level will be extended (L-shaped under a shelf, my husband is amazing with building stuff) and our plan is to introduce them all to Cotton on neutral territory again today (carefully, one by one), clean the cage out very thoroughly and put them all on the large, lower level. Due to the extension, it should be new to all of them. I toold my husband we should block the upper level for the first few days so Cotton can't go up there on her own. my theory is that the younger piggies are a little too lively for her, so she withdraws, but for way too long at a time. Once she has been away for two days, the others, especially the two little girls, seem to think she doesn't belong anymore and then she can't join them, even if she wants to - and she has tried. So if we make sure they stay together for a few days, they might accept Cotton. Once we do allow her to withdraw upstairs, I would stiill watch how much time she spends up there and take her down if it seems like it is too long so she doesn't lose her position in the group. meanwhile, we want to teach the others to use the ramp. The ideal scenario would be all of them using both levels. They'd have loads of space and Cotton would still have opportunities to withdraw without really being away. Worst case-scenario is that Cotton gets too stressed and we might have to let her keep the upper level to herself. She'd still hear the others which seems to help, but couldn't really be part of the herd. Obviously, we're hoping this won't happen and our plan will work out. We have often introduced piggies to each other before and it was alwys quite easy, but they were never far apart from each other in age.

Any opinions? Additional suggestions? At thhis point I'm grateful for any input others may be able to provide.
 
Sorry can't help much! I've only bonded piggies who were similar in age. Your ideas sound good in theory you must have given a lot of thought to this. Good luck!
 
As long as Cotton still has the option to withdraw whenever she wants, she'll do fine.

I have several bereaved older sows that prefer a live-alongside option with interaction through the bars to full bonding to living in a new group - especially when they do not come out on top in the hierarchy.
It is the interaction that is preventing them from becoming depressed and withdrawn in the first place.

Please observe the group dynamics rather than the time spent together; they will give you the answers. It is liekly that Cotton has settled more into her new family by now, anyway. The dominance phase lasts around two weeks after the bonding until a group hierarchy is fully established and settled. Please take the time to read our bonding guide. you may find it helpful.
Illustrated Bonding / Dominance Behaviours And Dynamics

PS: We strongly recommend a full 6 weeks post-op wait. The little baby in my avatar is the legacy of a supposedly safe over 5 weeks post neutering op boar (not one of mine); it can really happen that late! Tegan is not the only one. Our forum recommendation follows best UK rescue practice. Despite hundreds of boars neutered in that time, I have yet to hear of a pregnancy at this late stage - and believe me, it would make the rounds like wildfire!
 
As long as Cotton still has the option to withdraw whenever she wants, she'll do fine.

I have several bereaved older sows that prefer a live-alongside option with interaction through the bars to full bonding to living in a new group - especially when they do not come out on top in the hierarchy.
It is the interaction that is preventing them from becoming depressed and withdrawn in the first place.
It seems like the decision has been made. We tried and at first it looked like it was going well. We introduced them n neutral territory, put them all into the extended part of the cage and my husband had scrubbed the entire cage thoroughly. Cotton soon went to the upper level since we had decided against blocking it up. If she needs that space to withdraw, she should have it. She came back down soon, but then hid on one of the houses in the extended part of the cage and when one of the other piggies came up and hadn't even really done anything to her, she just squeaked loudly in fear. She managed to go from one of the three parts of the little wooden house to the next, but apparently was scared of leaving it. We watched it for a while, but eventually couldn't bear Cotton's fearful shrieks anymore and my husband took her out and put her on the upper level. She was really scared of him too, which she never has been before. Once she had been up there for a few minutes, by herself, she was fine. She did wander down the ramp again, but not all the way, watched and went back upstairs. So I guess she has made her decision. She can watch them from the ramp, she can always hear them, but I think she is probably going to stay on the upper level where she seems so much more relaxed and happier. We've tried, but we can't force her.
PS: We strongly recommend a full 6 weeks post-op wait. The little baby in my avatar is the legacy of a supposedly safe over 5 weeks post neutering op boar (not one of mine); it can really happen that late! Tegan is not the only one. Our forum recommendation follows best UK rescue practice. Despite hundreds of boars neutered in that time, I have yet to hear of a pregnancy at this late stage - and believe me, it would make the rounds like wildfire!
At the animal shelter they told us that Flash had been neutered on December 6th. We let him join the ladies last weekend and at the animal shelter they said even a week earlier should be fine, but if we wanted to be safe, we could wait. But I think it's been more than 6 weeks, so we should be safe now.
 
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