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Dry Skin Now Or Still Fungal?

Eriathwen

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We've had fungal issues on and off with Brambles ears since 2 weeks after we got her, so coming up to 2 years now. I am starting to question if it's actually still ringworm/fungal anymore at all given how weird her ears actually are due to her head tilt.

Basically, we've tried Surolan, Intrafungal (not sure of spelling) Canestan cream and Daktarin oral gel (ok'd by a vet) all the while cleaning her housing with f10.

Now, I'm starting to wonder if it's purely dry skin? The hair is not coming away, this is about as scurfy as it gets lately and she is not itchy at all, ive tried coconut oil to moisturise but that seemed to irritate her skin so stopped. I'm thinking of taking her in again to have a light test thing done to actually make sure it's still fungal, but given I need to limit her stress levels due to her e.cuniculi, if I can get some answers from you guys and avoid having to take her in, I'm sure she would appreciate it!

Basically, her left ear has always been the worst, this is the one that is closest to the ground from the direction of the head tilt. I'm concerned the multiple use of the steroid cream Surolan has maybe weakened the skin? I've had to regularly use steroid creams myself for my eczema and it's certainly caused issues for my hands.

She also gets really, really bad build ups in her ears, I wipe them out gently each day, never sticking anything down them. She did once have drops, but again, they irritated the skin and had to be stopped. So now I have to massage the ears and then gently pick the wax out..which she doesnt mind at all, luckily. As you can see, they're quite a size! Again, left side is always worse due to being so close to the ground so often with the head tilt. (just a note, the cotton buds were not stuck down the ear, it's just easier to get the wax out from under my nail with them!)

So yeah...ear advice! Opinions on whether we're still dealing with fungal are appreciated, as well as any very gently moisturisers I could use for her ears? Or anything to make them less of an issue for her.
I'm so sorry this turned into such an essay..I'm just at a loss to what to do as our vet only offers a very small selection of fungal treatments, none of which seem to actually be fixing the dryness. Oh and the darkened build ups on the pink ear are where I didnt rub her cream in properly this morning and it's gone a bit grimy while she's been going through the hay etc. She wriggles when the cream goes on so it's easy to miss bits. It doesnt normally look like that.

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It looks still rather fungally to me.How long has your girl been on itrafungol?

The ears can be a difficult place to get rid of fungal, especially in guinea pigs where the immune system is lowered. I've been through ringworm with a piggy with an irregular heart-beat, which wasn't fun at all as the ringworm would move from one area to another, including the ears. Ceri required a full 5 weeks course of one week on and one week off itrafungol to finally get on top of it.

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Damn, wishful thinking on my part then.. I think she was on one week on, a few days off then another week on, it could of been 10 days instead of a week, I cant quite remember. Problem with oral stuff is we have to be wary of her dodgy stomach in case she gets diarrhoea again. But then I suppose it's picking the best of 2 negatives as long as it clears the ears up, neither topical or oral are really a 'good' option as everything seems to irritate her in some fashion!
 
Hmmm... it almost looks like cradle cap on a baby around the ear edges, doesn't it? That level of flakiness doesn't look like dry skin to me, so I suspect it's something that needs treating. There are a lot of different fungal infections besides ringworm and I wonder if the cream you've been given isn't the best match for the fungus at play. Hopefully someone with more experience can come along and help you out.
 
You could try Imaverol dabbed on her ears. It is gentle enough to use every day and it would not need to be full dips. You still need to dilute according to the instructions though. I am sure we used to do this with Nigel. As Wiebke has said too she may need a longer course of Itrafungol if it was only a short one.

The UV light test is only supposed to show up Ringworm and even then I don't think it is that reliable. Nystatin is a possibility too which I think can be used for more yeast like infections like Candida. Nigel was on that too, from the vet.
 
Thanks! I'll ask about a longer course of the intrafungol and see if I can get the Imaverol to try her with. :)
 
I think we're finally seeing some improvement? A lot less flaky anyway. Which would confirm that yeah, it's still fungal... We decided to complete the course we were advised of the canesten cream to put a little more distance between the next round of oral treatment and her diarrhoea a few weeks back. I think we've got about a week left? If this doesnt clear it then we're trying a longer course of the intrafungol providing it doesnt upset her stomach, as being on her ears, oral would be easiest apparently.

This is how they're looking now, anyway.

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So.. we're 38 hours since her last treatment. Normally it's returned by now, but I'm not counting my chickens just yet. Thought I would update here just so I have somewhere where it's all in one place, all her dates and treatments were on my phone but thats decided to give up on life :/ but this is how we're looking now.

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So.. we're 38 hours since her last treatment. Normally it's returned by now, but I'm not counting my chickens just yet. Thought I would update here just so I have somewhere where it's all in one place, all her dates and treatments were on my phone but thats decided to give up on life :/ but this is how we're looking now.

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It looks perfectly clean from fungal to me.
 
Woo! Thankyou. :D Can't believe how long it's taken to shift, poor girl. Small comfort in the fact it did not spread to the other 6 at least.

Be proud that it has not impacted on the others. Look our for any crusty bits in the next few weeks. ;)
 
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