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I am absolutely fuming sitting here & I can't sleep because of what I’ve seen. :)>>>
This I guess is a warning to anyone re-homing a piggy either on this forum or privately

If you are re-homing an “intact” piggy you cannot ensure that it will be kept as a pet ONLY, not used for "reproductive services"

I have just found evidence that a piggy I previously re-homed HAS been used for this (as well as "winning rosettes" ) & is now up for sale! grrrr

I am absolutely horrified that I was lied to & that this piggy has been used for this; more so because of what the person said to me at the time.

This is not meant as an opening to discuss "reproductive services" or anything else - more to make everyone aware that not all people are what they first seem. :(
 
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That's horrible - I guess this is why most dog/cat rescues neuter their animals before rehoming, such a shame it's not practical with piglets.
 
Nikki sorry ot hear this - its so hard not to know though and we know you would have done all the thorough checks.

People just are clueless, how could they do that?
 
gutted,that's terrible. i'm so sorry a member of the human race can do this :)>>>:)>>>:)>>>:)>>>:)>>>:)>>>:)>>>:)>>>
 
Obviously needs the rosettes to feel good about themselves! How awful for you Niki. Even with all the communicating in the world you wasn't to know. People can be good liars!
 
I agree that its pretty 'off' to lie to someone about what you want the piggie for .....BUT can i just say that just because the piggie has won rosettes, doesn't necessarily mean that it is now a 'show' pig (so to speak).
A couple of my childrens pet piggies have done very well in the pet section at local shows, and have won a few rosettes, i think its nice that their hard work and care is rewarded.

Ali
 
Gives me the shivers, as despite all the homechecks and follow-ups in the world, you can never really be 100% sure what happens to a rehomed pig. Makes me want to keep them all just in case!

You can never be sure that people won't breed from a rescue pig, I wouldn't have thought most people would want to though as they don't know the pigs background or genetics - it could well be in-bred itself.

Sorry you had this happen to you. Is the pig still 'yours' legally (did they sign something?) - not that I suppose you can get it back.

Sophie
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This is horrible Niki, I can understand you being gutted. Pleased to see that the Administrator has stepped in. Really sorry for you with this, its awful. xx
 
Yes, it seems unreasonable that in this case (I don’t know the identity of pig or person) that the new owner has decided to sell it.


sophiew said:
You can never be sure that people won't breed from a rescue pig, I wouldn't have thought most people would want to though as they don't know the pigs background or genetics
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Let’s say there are two sides to every story. Sometimes responsible breeders are duped too.
Sophie, I know the origins of one particular group of pigs that you rescued. A hoarder (with mental health problems) gained a lot of good animals from well known breeders. I saw one particular ‘rescued’ pig on your website that I know was bred by a very close friend who is terminally ill and can only keep a few pigs now. It was of a rare breed that he had worked on for several years before he was taken ill. He certainly made a mistake in letting her have any of his pigs but she was a good talker.
If my friend was well enough to look after more animals I would have lied like hell to any rescue to get that pig back for him.
 
Yes it happens that way too, I know - again, anyone selling pigs with or without homechecking, it doesn't matter - can't guarantee where they are going in the end.

A really poorly rescue pig that came to me was actually identified by the person that had bred it and sold it to woman, who had then bred from it and then had the whole lot taken away by the RSPCA - the original person who bred the pig was horrified, as she believed it was going to a good home. When it came to me it had no hair, was skeletally thin, and heavily pregnant again. Had the original owner wanted that pig back, I would have understood. She didn't (it needed a lot of medical care!)

Sophie
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amentalcat said:
I agree that its pretty 'off' to lie to someone about what you want the piggie for .....BUT can i just say that just because the piggie has won rosettes, doesn't necessarily mean that it is now a 'show' pig (so to speak).
A couple of my childrens pet piggies have done very well in the pet section at local shows, and have won a few rosettes, i think its nice that their hard work and care is rewarded.

Ali
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I'm fully aware that it doesn't mean he's a "show" pig, this is not my main cause of concern. I shall explain why i'm so annoyed & name the piggy which will most likely identify the member concerned........

I got Irving as a baby to live with my older boar Toddie. Toddie is a testosterone filled boy who lived next door to other piggies but constantly gnashed the mesh divider. I thought he would benefit from a friend, hence Irving, which means "boar friend."
They lived together very happily for approx 6wks before Toddie started to bully him. It got where little Irving couldn't eat, come down the ramp, couldn't be where Toddie was & yes i tried all different scenarious regarding the distribution of veggies & dry food bowls.
They had 2 of everything & lived in a 7.5ft hutch with a loft. Space was not an issue.
I had no choice but to separate them & tried Irving with Hamish (also a rex ) but Hamish wasn't happy.
I kept Irving alone for a couple of months (next to Toddie, divided by mesh) but he wasn't happy on his own & i didn't have enough hutch space to give him a friend & made the decision to put him on this forums board to be rehomed to someone with a baby, doing what i thought was best for him.

The person who rehomed him said she had a baby for Irving; a perfect end, i thought. She came to my house, she answered all my questions & told me she was a "small rescue." I was happy.

To now see him advertised for sale on another piggy forum, with his "statistics" has infuriated me & looking at this persons website it "seems" Irving was purposely sought because of his breed.

I do not have a problem with his "rosette winning" nor do i have a problem with responsible breeders; each to their own.

I do, however, have a problem with being lied to & him being used for his "reproductive qualities" & subsequently discarded because he's no longer of any use.

I have contacted this person & surprise have received no answer.
I also know this person has enquired about other piggies on here but no idea wether she got them or not.

This has highlighted that rescue or not you never truly know the intentions of a prospective new owner or where the animal you are rehoming will end up. :(

EDITED TO ADD: Have now heard back from this person, she's not denying (nor confirming) anything but i have said i want him back, am waiting to hear from her.
 
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I do feel for you, and I hope it works out well for the pig concerned.

Even if you homecheck you can't be sure this won't happen, sadly. You did what you thought was best for the pig at the time, you weren't to know

Sophie
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Oh Niki, Irving was one of my favs and I was so tempted when you put him up. I hope you get him back. Such a shame trust has been broken in this way.

I can understand why you are upset. Sending big hugs your way.

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Oh Niki, I am so sorry to read your thread and completely understand where you are coming. The trust that you put in to someone and then to find out that you have been lied to must be awfu. It is not your fault though and you must not blame yourself in anyway. I really hope that you get your piggy back from the member in question x
 
Niki, I can only say the same, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is awful that your trust has been broken in this way :(
I am glad you have effectively named the member, just in case she has taken on any other pigs under false pretences.
I really hope you get him back....((((hug)))))
 
I agree with everyone else, what a dreadful thing to happen. I do hope you get the little guy back Niki.
 
The 'human' race never cease to amaze me.
As for the show thingy. I regularly show my rescue dogs (only at animal charity related events where a good cause is benefitted by the revenue raised by entry fees) and do it for fun, to socialise the dogs, to meet other people etc. But if I ever had to part with them, i'd never dream of advertising them as trophy/rosette/medal winning dogs.
Maybe just me, but I certainly wouldnt want them paraded around by someone who took it far too seriously for their (and the pets) own good.
As for using him as a sire, well... No doubt she went on to flog the babies off to whoever came up with the cash, despicable pond scum.
Whoever thinks you can make a profit with an animal, is sorely mistaken.
I really do hope that this 'person' hands piggie back over to you, and is deservedly banned from ALL forums that she may frequent.
I know who this member is, and wouldnt give her the steam from my wee now, let alone a little life to look after.

So sorry that you got taken in, she is obviously a quality liar to have fooled you and many others on here as she did.
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Aw Nikki, I am sorry to hear what has happened to wee Irving. What a horrible thing to happen......and I can't believe it was a member of this forum, that just sickens me.

Its horrible the lengths that people will go to just for the sake of making some money.

Don't feel guilty - you are not to blame. You thought you were giving him to a genuine person, who would give him a lovin' forever home - you done everything you could to ensure that that would happen. I hope they do the right thing and give him back to you.
 
It truely makes me sick that someone would lie through their teeth like this, I really hope you get your boy back x
 
It disgusts me the lengths that some breeders will go to and the lies they will tell to get hold of good looking animals. It's exactly the reason that many of the rarer varieties of pigs become permanent residents in many rescues.

I'm absolutely shocked and sickened that this happened to you and poor Irving, Niki.
 
The plot thickens!
After hearing back from her & "trying" to arrange collection of Irving i've discovered her website has mysteriously disappeared & the For Sale Ad on the forum i found him on has been edited by her this afternoon & is now clear of all text! I'm gutted & am so annoyed at myself!
The chances of me getting him back seem more & more remote :(
 
keep us updated

daftscotslass said:
It disgusts me the lengths that some breeders will go to and the lies they will tell to get hold of good looking animals. It's exactly the reason that many of the rarer varieties of pigs become permanent residents in many rescues.
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totally agree, i sincerely hope you get him back, and that the, now ex-member, is rethinking their unethical behavior, and they never even consider doing this again. :...

good luck Niki
 
I have everything crossed that you get Irving back and you can keep him safe forever.

It is horrible that pigs are taken and then sold on when they are not wanted anymore. :(

I really hope that this person returns him to you!
 
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