Engel's Herd

Engel said:
Yeh true. I was wondering from a stress point of view. For instance if they've been out in the hutch for a while, would bringing them into a place not smelling like them cause them stress (after an op)? Hopefully you understand what I mean.

No they may not but rather have a plan for the 'what if' scenarios :)
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yes I understand what you are saying, but being able to keep a close eye on them in the hours following anaesthetic is important. You can make them feel more secure by ensuring you use their normal hideys etc which will smell of them in the indoor cage while they are recovering.
 
Piggies&buns said:
yes I understand what you are saying, but being able to keep a close eye on them in the hours following anaesthetic is important. You can make them feel more secure by ensuring you use their normal hideys etc which will smell of them in the indoor cage while they are recovering.
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Ah ok thanks 🙂
 
I would wait a little longer. It may be he will break the weight barrier before the 3 weeks.
 
Siikibam said:
I would wait a little longer. It may be he will break the weight barrier before the 3 weeks.
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No doubt he will but my concern is he seems very interested in mum and she comes into season very soon. I don't want any more babies 🥺
 
The three weeks or 250g allows a little leeway so don’t be afraid. If he starts showing a little more interest than sniffing her then you can reassess. But I think for now it’s okay.
 
Siikibam said:
The three weeks or 250g allows a little leeway so don’t be afraid. If he starts showing a little more interest than sniffing her then you can reassess. But I think for now it’s okay.
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Ok thank you :)

I may of asked this before but can't for the life of me remember, but when introducing Apollo to Jupiter do I do it like you would with an adult pig (like the guide on here) or is there another way?

This is what I was going to do:
-Clean out Jupiters cage (now been expanded to 4x3 which is actually 12sq feet as I used the wrong grids. Also baby proofed).
-Put pads and fleece down with a pile of hay in the middle.
-Add pigs
- add water bowl and bottle and a hide of all is well.

then do I leave them to it and check often?
 
When bonding you do as with any other. Only a pile of hay in the middle and no hides. Do it in a play pen if possible rather than Jupiter’s cage. There will likely be some humping and chasing etc from him.
 
Siikibam said:
When bonding you do as with any other. Only a pile of hay in the middle and no hides. Do it in a play pen if possible rather than Jupiter’s cage. There will likely be some humping and chasing etc from him.
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Ah ok. Will a bath tub do if I put a towel down for them to walk on so they're not sliding around?
 
Yes. Or a playpen. Or just the bathroom floor as long as they can’t squeeze into places they’re not supposed to!
 
Update.
All is well. Everyone is gaining weight. I am still feeding Eileithyia crit care once every other day as her weight starts dropping slightly. Other than that she's fine. Really active.

I think Apollo has been rumbling a little bit yesterday and today. I know its definitely not Jupiter as Ju has a very deep rumble. This is a softer slightly higher pitch, what I imagine a baby would do. But not 100% sure it's Apollo yet. Haven't seen the bum wiggle that comes with it.

He's 225g now so getting close. I haven't seen Eil on heat yet. I'm checking the seal every day, it's still closed.
 
Hey guys noticed this on the baby sows vulva. It's dry and orange. There's nothing anywhere else. No other pig has this. It comes off with a damp cloth but I'm wondering what it actually is and should I be concerned?

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Siikibam said:
Does it smell like poo?
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Yes but I haven't found any loose stools in the cage? That's whats confusing me if I'm honest. Also the colour.

I've cleaned her up now. (Just some warm water with cotton pad). While doing so she pooped as expected and it was well formed. So I don't know. She's fine in herself. The only thing I can think of that may have done it was that I've changed the brand of alfalfa? But would that really do it?
 
Tomorrow will be seperation day for little Apollo. Today he weighed in at 243g so tomorrow hell no doubt be 250+ tomorrow. Little bit nervous if I'm honest but I'm sure Jupiter will be accepting. Here's probably the last photos of Apollo while he's with mum.
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Hope there wasn’t too much screeching from mum and son seeing as he went in with dad.
 
Piggies&buns said:
Hope all goes well with Jupiter and Apollo today!
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Well we're about 30 mins in. Apollo hasn't stopped wheeking / screeching / complaining.

Jupiter rumbles for about 30 seconds. There was a bit of chasing but nothing crazy. Mutual bum sniffing. Some nose to nose. Following each other. Talking to each other. Sat touching each other while eating hay. Apollo has climbed on Jupiter and stole food from his mouth. Jupiter doesn't seem to care. I think he's enjoying the fact he can have physical contact with a pig that's on the same side of the bars as him.

They're both currently lay in hay together eating :)

Am I able to add a hide now?

Providing that all is well after that can I move them into their cage together?
 
Engel said:
Well we're about 30 mins in. Apollo hasn't stopped wheeking / screeching / complaining.

Jupiter rumbles for about 30 seconds. There was a bit of chasing but nothing crazy. Mutual bum sniffing. Some nose to nose. Following each other. Talking to each other. Sat touching each other while eating hay. Apollo has climbed on Jupiter and stole food from his mouth. Jupiter doesn't seem to care. I think he's enjoying the fact he can have physical contact with a pig that's on the same side of the bars as him.

They're both currently lay in hay together eating :)

Am I able to add a hide now?

Providing that all is well after that can I move them into their cage together?
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That all sounds very positive! Great news!
If it’s only been half an hour, then Id leave then as they are for a few more hours
 
Piggies&buns said:
That all sounds very positive! Great news!
If it’s only been half an hour, then Id leave then as they are for a few more hours
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Siikibam said:
I also wouldn’t add a hide. Give them a good few hours. Even the whole day. Remember to rearrange their space.
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Ok thank you both I'll keep you posted.
I've been videoing it and its actually been an hour. I'll leave them a bit longer. They've got hay and water bowl so that should be ok for a couple of hours?

Am I able to leave them unattended for 10-15 minutes? Or shall I stay for a tad longer to make sure it's defo ok?
 
Ok, that’s good.
I’d imagine, if they’ve been ok until now, then you can move away from them for short periods but just make sure you check in on them regularly.
 
Piggies&buns said:
Ok, that’s good.
I’d imagine, if they’ve been ok until now, then you can move away from them for short periods but just make sure you check in on them regularly.
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Yes of course. They seem to be getting on fantastic. No signs of Jupiter being upset or unhappy. It's like they have met before.. haha.

We've had some self grooming while sat next to each other too now. Which is lovely to see.

Apollo is following Jupiter around like he used to follow mum.

Sharing some veggies now
 
Sorry *almost 4 hours in. I've added a hide which is a cardboard box with large doors on each side.

We'll see how that goes ☺️
 
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