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Eye emergency.. Winny

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So I went to get the piggies out for dinner and floor time and noticed Winnys eye looked wrong... I know it wasn't like it this morning as I hand feed them breakfast and dinner.... it didn't look good so I rang the vets immediately and she was there within 20 mins...

Vet has removed a grass seed but was kind of pushing for removal but not saying IT HAS TO COME OUT COS ITS REALLY BAD...

Winny has been given :
Baytrill .0.87 once a day
Isarhal Eye drops twice a day

I have some Metacam/Loxicom (dog) from before (new bottle) and vet said 0.22ml ONCE a day..

She said if I wanted to see how that went but they still might need to remove the eye on Monday if no improvement.

Unsure whether to get a second opinion from my other vet Ellie Whitehead in MATLOCK..

I have attached a photo and any advice is more than welcome...never had an eye issue..20210203_194353.webp
 
Oh poor Winny, that looks very sore. Hope she makes a quick recovery x Sorry have no experience at all on eyes 😟
 
Bill & Ted said:
Oh poor Winny, that looks very sore. Hope she makes a quick recovery x Sorry have no experience at all on eyes 😟
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i know... i feel so sorry for her... i gave her some pain relief before we went to the vets as I had some out ready to give to brownie..
 
Obviously each eye issue is different, but Bellamy once had hay stuck which I managed to remove and his eye was this bright blue also and had me freaking out. After two days I saw massive improvement so with the time scale the vet has given you, I would say you should be able to defintely tell whether the eye can be saved or not
 
Jesse's pigs said:
Obviously each eye issue is different, but Bellamy once had hay stuck which I managed to remove and his eye was this bright blue also and had me freaking out. After two days I saw massive improvement so with the time scale the vet has given you, I would say you should be able to defintely tell whether the eye can be saved or not
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Thank you - I am freaking out cos it looks so sore.... so that is reassuring..
 
Meg had REALLY bad haypoke last year. It was a very deep ulcer and her eye was very sore. It took 8 weeks of 3 lots of eye drops 3 times a day (I was not Mrs Popular) to clear up. Nothing was mentioned about eye removal. Hopefully Winny's eye will respond well to the Isathal. Do you have Viscotears? They are about a fiver from Boots. It's artificial eye tears that help keep the eye hydrated aiding healing.
 
Each case is different. The pics below show my Odin’s eye when it was at its worse with the abscess behind and the stages as it healed. I thought he would never have a normal eye or sight again, but he did. The second picture is his eye 6
Weeks later.
I second what’s been said about the viscotears. Well worth it.
I’m keeping everything crossed and sending healing vibes for your gorgeous Winny 💕

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Betsy said:
Meg had REALLY bad haypoke last year. It was a very deep ulcer and her eye was very sore. It took 8 weeks of 3 lots of eye drops 3 times a day (I was not Mrs Popular) to clear up. Nothing was mentioned about eye removal. Hopefully Winny's eye will respond well to the Isathal. Do you have Viscotears? They are about a fiver from Boots. It's artificial eye tears that help keep the eye hydrated aiding healing.
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I am feeling more reassured... as soon as she went into the vets, I legged it to boots 3 shops down and got some viscotears! I told the vet but she said to use the isathal but I think I will use the viscotears also.. anything to help her.. x
 
artcasper said:
I am feeling more reassured... as soon as she went into the vets, I legged it to boots 3 shops down and got some viscotears! I told the vet but she said to use the isathal but I think I will use the viscotears also.. anything to help her.. x
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Yes defo stick with the isathal too as it helps clear up the ulcer
 
You have to wait at least half an hour between the Viscotears and the Isathal to allow them both to soak into the eye. Meg had Isathal, Viscotears and Remegel. They all work in different ways.
 
OUCH!

It is very ulcerated so you cannot really tell but Nosgan's eye was looking worse and even Kim Maddock was unsure whether it could be saved. But he made it and even regained a degree of sight. Please get some artificial tear gel/lubricant; according to Kim it helps with healing process deeper in the eye where the isathal or chloramphenicol can't reach as well as with comfort on the eye and shifting the ulceration. Always wait at least half an hour to allow the isathal to be fully absorbed before applying it 3-6 times a day.

Better go for a second opinion and stronger meds if your vet insists on removal.

All the best.
 
Ooh poor little Winny, that does look sore. Really hope the eye drops help xx
 
Poor Winny, that looks nasty! Hope the Isathal and Viscotears are helping.

I remember when I helped get Kreacher to TEAS, his eye was so bad Simon wasn't sure he could save it, but he tried some other drops on it and they worked. Hopefully Winny's eye can be saved too.

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Qualcast&Flymo said:
Poor Winny, that looks nasty! Hope the Isathal and Viscotears are helping.

I remember when I helped get Kreacher to TEAS, his eye was so bad Simon wasn't sure he could save it, but he tried some other drops on it and they worked. Hopefully Winny's eye can be saved too.

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Me too... I must say I am feeling more hopeful after the replies I have had...
 
anyar.dris said:
Awww..poor Winny. Hopefully the Isathal is enough to fix the issue. But I would give out Loxicom 2x a day.
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She has only had 1 dose so far bless her... she isn't the best for cuddles so gonna have to Burito her for sure..

Yes I know from Brownies issues that pain relief is best twice a day.. Good job I have a full bottle in..
 
Ouch Winny. Oh my @artcasper . . Well done for acting so quick. . . . I hope in next couple days with meds etc. . Lots tlc . She start to get better. .
If you not happy with vet. . Then as mentioned 2nd opinion. .
Sending lots healing vibes
 
Owch looks painful :yikes:

I'd definitely try to keep on top of the loxicom & push for twice a day, see what your other vet says.

I've used Isathal & Remend together before (Remend is probably the the animal version of Viscotears?) also Tiacil is a very good alternative to the Isathal - I seemed to have a permanent bottle on standby in the fridge.
Orca always had eye issues & Tiacil on repeat prescription!

I used to use the Remend about an hour after the Tiacil/Isathal & Orca's eyes used to look awful, but then improved after a few days/week or so. She did finally go blind, but that was after years of eye issues.

Another girl of mine Dash had a seed in her eye, it was removed & the eye went the shape of a rugby ball, the vet thought it might need to come out, but luckily 10-14 days later you could hardly see the little scar on her eye. But she was on drops about 4-5 times a day for the first few days, then down to 2-3x daily after that if I remember correctly?
This is the Remend if you want to discuss with your vet?
Remend Corneal Repair Gel - 3ml

Hopefully the drops & painkillers will heal it quickly.

Fingers & paws all crossed for a full & speedy recovery.

Xx
 
Oh poor Winnie. That looks really sore. Hope the eye drops work. I agree about the artificial tears, they definitely seemed to help both George and Peggy when they had hay poke injuries.

Get well soon Winnie.xx
 
Betsy said:
Meg had REALLY bad haypoke last year. It was a very deep ulcer and her eye was very sore. It took 8 weeks of 3 lots of eye drops 3 times a day (I was not Mrs Popular) to clear up. Nothing was mentioned about eye removal. Hopefully Winny's eye will respond well to the Isathal. Do you have Viscotears? They are about a fiver from Boots. It's artificial eye tears that help keep the eye hydrated aiding healing.
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Just found this picture of Megs eye last year.
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Betsy said:
You have to wait at least half an hour between the Viscotears and the Isathal to allow them both to soak into the eye. Meg had Isathal, Viscotears and Remegel. They all work in different ways.
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Oops just remembered it wasn't Isathal Meg had it was Chloramphenicol.
 
I also think the Metacam is a very low dose for such trauma, I would give that dose twice a day. Hope Winny starts to mend very soon x
 
Poor Windy.
That looks sore.
Micah had a really bad haypoke last year - he has a congenital abnormality so his eyes are more susceptible to damage.
There was no suggestion of removal but it took about a couple of months to heal properly with Isathal and Viscotears ( and lots of bribes).

Hope Winny’s eye does heal well.
 
Bill & Ted said:
I also think the Metacam is a very low dose for such trauma, I would give that dose twice a day. Hope Winny starts to mend very soon x
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thanks... i have given her half this morning and will check with the vet on the dose, she defo needs it twice a day..
 
Merab's Slave said:
Poor Windy.
That looks sore.
Micah had a really bad haypoke last year - he has a congenital abnormality so his eyes are more susceptible to damage.
There was no suggestion of removal but it took about a couple of months to heal properly with Isathal and Viscotears ( and lots of bribes).

Hope Winny’s eye does heal well.
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i just need confirmation on the actual damage really... the vet last night wasn't telling me it was damaged and needed to come out ASAP but was pushing for removal! Very confusing,,
 
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