Faline

[Emiley]

This is my new baby syrian hamster!
Her name is Faline, and I got her today.

 

[Posiesparkles]

What a cutie! x) x) x)

Puck (my gorgeous syrian hamster) and I send kisses (obviously his are in the gentle-ster manner!)

x

 

[Raul]

Faline is lovely.

Did you have hamsters before?

Is that her forever cage? We had the same one for a Robo and it was too small for them, it is ok for a small hamster retirement home. The main issue is it is too small for a Syrian sized wheel, the one supplied will cause back issues as she gets bigger.

 

[Emiley]

Faline is lovely.

Did you have hamsters before?

Is that her forever cage? We had the same one for a Robo and it was too small for them, it is ok for a small hamster retirement home. The main issue is it is too small for a Syrian sized wheel, the one supplied will cause back issues as she gets bigger.

err.. I've had 2 syrians before. One lived until it was 3.5 years old, and had a wheel this size for quite a while and was perfectly happy.

I did put a standard silent spinner in after a while, which I plan to do in this one. The cage is perfectly big enough.

 

[mrsscott]

Awww my son had one but it die this year he had his for 3years

 

[Raul]

What cage is it?

 

[NatalieMT]

Aww she's so sweet! My last Syrian put me off ever getting another hamster (super vicious so it was just referred to as Dracula!) but I had some lovely Chinese striped ones when I was younger. They had loads of tubes connecting different bits of their enclosure and were so fun to watch.

Sending lots of love to Faline!

 

[lotsopiggies]

err.. I've had 2 syrians before. One lived until it was 3.5 years old, and had a wheel this size for quite a while and was perfectly happy.

I did put a standard silent spinner in after a while, which I plan to do in this one. The cage is perfectly big enough.

I'm going to get banned i'm sure but I don't actually care, Emily stop lying. I can not stand it.

The two syrrianes you had before, Archie and chip? They lived in rat cages, they were taller and better than that, and they're BOTh still alive to my knowledge.

Stop this, you're going to turn into a hoarder and I can't just stand/sit and watch it, you're a good girl who just loves animals I know because i'm the same.

I tried to reason with you a few months back and all you replied was that you have a job and the money so why not. Why not is because you don't have your own place, you're living at your parents. While that's absoloutly fine when you had 3/4/5/6 even up to 10 tbh, it's not anymore. you have a shed that I highly doubt is big enough for all the animals you have, and where did you get this miraculous time back from, because I asked you if you would take chip and Archie back and you said you just didn't have the time; was it because they weren't new and shiney?

Sorry, rant over.

 

[Emiley]

archie was 3.5 years when you had him, thus... i did not lie! i said LIVED as
now i have no way of knowing if he is still alive.

i know they had tall rat cages, but you dont even know what cage faline has? its not a huge cage no but its perfect for a syrian.

i asked my parents permission to get her, mum took me to get her and her cage etc!

my shed is also perfectly big enough... if your that bothered come see it for yourself!

i didnt take the hamsters back from you as it was upsetting to let them go in the first place, i couldnt have them back after id just got over letting them go! i let you have them as i thought you were a lovely girl who would take care of them until they passed on... but you didnt.

 

[Amanda1801]

archie was 3.5 years when you had him, thus... i did not lie! i said LIVED as
now i have no way of knowing if he is still alive.

i know they had tall rat cages, but you dont even know what cage faline has? its not a huge cage no but its perfect for a syrian.

i asked my parents permission to get her, mum took me to get her and her cage etc!

my shed is also perfectly big enough... if your that bothered come see it for yourself!

i didnt take the hamsters back from you as it was upsetting to let them go in the first place, i couldnt have them back after id just got over letting them go! i let you have them as i thought you were a lovely girl who would take care of them until they passed on... but you didnt.

Why did you give the hamsters up in the first place, then go out and get another one? Forgive me if I'm missing the point here....

 

[Amanda1801]

I'm going to get banned i'm sure but I don't actually care, Emily stop lying. I can not stand it.

The two syrrianes you had before, Archie and chip? They lived in rat cages, they were taller and better than that, and they're BOTh still alive to my knowledge.

Stop this, you're going to turn into a hoarder and I can't just stand/sit and watch it, you're a good girl who just loves animals I know because i'm the same.

I tried to reason with you a few months back and all you replied was that you have a job and the money so why not. Why not is because you don't have your own place, you're living at your parents. While that's absoloutly fine when you had 3/4/5/6 even up to 10 tbh, it's not anymore. you have a shed that I highly doubt is big enough for all the animals you have, and where did you get this miraculous time back from, because I asked you if you would take chip and Archie back and you said you just didn't have the time; was it because they weren't new and shiney?

Sorry, rant over.

I've seriously rethought my plans for animal numbers after Cameo's op... routine op went wrong, the vets bill would be over £1000 by now if I didn't have staff discount :... That's just for 3 weeks treatment post op, it's still ongoing now :x

 

[piggyfan]

She is adorable!x)

 

[piggie-power]

Why did you give the hamsters up in the first place, then go out and get another one? Forgive me if I'm missing the point here....

Thats what i was thinking especially as you were going to give Sammy up (http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=70586)

as you didn't have time for her.

 

[Amanda1801]

Thats what i was thinking especially as you were going to give Sammy up (http://www.theguineapigforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=70586)

as you didn't have time for her.

:{ what happened to animals being a lifetime responsibility?

 

[Raul]

That stops when they are no longer young and fluffy

 

[Emiley]

That stops when they are no longer young and fluffy

excuse me? ugh, f*** this forum.
I'm pming a mod to delete my account.

 

[lotsopiggies]

I have just been told to shut up and that I nor anyone else has the right to be cncerned. But actually I do, infant I think it is our responsibility to care. Isn't that the main part of this site is to protect the animals welfare? We can not tell you or force you i do someone thing we can only voice our opinions and hope hat people are reasonable and mature enough to discuss. I mean, think about this from the forums point of view, all we as is you getting another animal and another, it's not a personal thing against you getting more animals, the community responded with the same concern when I got more. Everyone here is passionate about pet care, including welfare and health.nmagine if one of your pigs onto a fungal infection, how would you cope with the vet bills and on going treatment. That's for one pig, fungal is so catching that if one of your pigs got I and you didn't notice they could all catch I within a matter of days not even that. I'm not saying you're not looking ate them, I'm asking you to think about all eventualities.

 

[Emiley]

I have just been told to shut up and that I nor anyone else has the right to be cncerned. But actually I do, infant I think it is our responsibility to care. Isn't that the main part of this site is to protect the animals welfare? We can not tell you or force you i do someone thing we can only voice our opinions and hope hat people are reasonable and mature enough to discuss. I mean, think about this from the forums point of view, all we as is you getting another animal and another, it's not a personal thing against you getting more animals, the community responded with the same concern when I got more. Everyone here is passionate about pet care, including welfare and health.nmagine if one of your pigs onto a fungal infection, how would you cope with the vet bills and on going treatment. That's for one pig, fungal is so catching that if one of your pigs got I and you didn't notice they could all catch I within a matter of days not even that. I'm not saying you're not looking ate them, I'm asking you to think about all eventualities.

Infant? I'm older than you!
I can cope, I am treating.

I AM NOT YOU! You had alot of pigs/rabbits and could not afford all the vet bills... I can. so leave me alone.
I never said nobody has the right to be concerned.. I said, nobody on the forum has the right to tell me what I can and Cant have.. unless they see reason to be worried, eg if any of my animals look mistreated, ill, underweight and just generally not well cared for!

 

[lotsopiggies]

Sorry on an iPad I meant to say in fact not infant
If that's humour opinion. Your entitled to it, but don't cry when, and I really hope it doesn't, go wrong.

 

[Amanda1801]

Infant? I'm older than you!
I can cope, I am treating.

I AM NOT YOU! You had alot of pigs/rabbits and could not afford all the vet bills... I can. so leave me alone.
I never said nobody has the right to be concerned.. I said, nobody on the forum has the right to tell me what I can and Cant have.. unless they see reason to be worried, eg if any of my animals look mistreated, ill, underweight and just generally not well cared for!

Are your pigs insured?

I don't know how many pigs you have now but if you had 10 and they all got giardia, at £100 each for testing and treatment, that's £1000, do you have £1000 disposable income to hand for a vets bill?

 

[Emiley]

Are your pigs insured?

I don't know how many pigs you have now but if you had 10 and they all got giardia, at £100 each for testing and treatment, that's £1000, do you have £1000 disposable income to hand for a vets bill?

Considering I have 2 jobs and have a bank account just for my pigs vet bills, yes. I put quite a bit in it each month.

So your attempts to put me off, or trip me up are not going to work.

 

[lotsopiggies]

This ipad thinks its so smart "if that's your opinion" not humor opinion. Sorry

Emiley we aren't trying to trip you up. We just nano to make sure you have thought of everything.

 

[helen105281]

Faline is beautiful, if I am correct the cage is the Pets at Home Pico?

I think what people are trying to say (and as Lotsopiggies says this happened to her too) is that people see you getting more and more animals and are naturally concerned as you are young and we don't know your situation re finances to cope with emergencies etc. We have a a lot of pigs and hamsters and can cope financially (just) but we are at our limit especially as we have a possible systemic fungal pig amongst the herd which in turn could lead to high vets bills and a heart pig too. I also think Lotsopiggies was shocked that you rehomed your original hamsters which have now gone to rescue and then all of a sudden have another one, obviously it was not clear at the beginning that she was a present.

 

[helen105281]

Faline is beautiful, if I am correct the cage is the Pets at Home Pico?

I think what people are trying to say (and as Lotsopiggies says this happened to her too) is that people see you getting more and more animals and are naturally concerned as you are young and we don't know your situation re finances to cope with emergencies etc. We have a a lot of pigs and hamsters and can cope financially (just) but we are at our limit especially as we have a possible systemic fungal pig amongst the herd which in turn could lead to high vets bills and a heart pig too. I also think Lotsopiggies was shocked that you rehomed your original hamsters which have now gone to rescue and then all of a sudden have another one, obviously it was not clear at the beginning that she was a present.

 

[Emiley]

Faline is beautiful, if I am correct the cage is the Pets at Home Pico?

I think what people are trying to say (and as Lotsopiggies says this happened to her too) is that people see you getting more and more animals and are naturally concerned as you are young and we don't know your situation re finances to cope with emergencies etc. We have a a lot of pigs and hamsters and can cope financially (just) but we are at our limit especially as we have a possible systemic fungal pig amongst the herd which in turn could lead to high vets bills and a heart pig too. I also think Lotsopiggies was shocked that you rehomed your original hamsters which have now gone to rescue and then all of a sudden have another one, obviously it was not clear at the beginning that she was a present.

Yes, it's the pico cage.
Once she's big enough, i'll get my old hamster playpen out so she can have plenty of floortime to get her out of the cage.

Yes, mum got her for me as an early xmas prezzie.

 

[Amanda1801]

Considering I have 2 jobs and have a bank account just for my pigs vet bills, yes. I put quite a bit in it each month.

So your attempts to put me off, or trip me up are not going to work.

No one is trying to trip you up or put you off, we're just telling you how it is. What about when you move out and have rent, utilities, council tax and such to pay? Will you be able to afford to put so much into the piggy pot then?

I also work 2 jobs, and there's no way I could afford my recent vets bill for Cameo if I didn't work where I do, as I also have a house to pay for, a car to run, insurance to pay, phone bills, gas bills, electricity bills and I don't even have to pay council tax on top of that. Cameo has so far cost over £1000 for three weeks care. It'd take a hell of a long time to rebuild that savings account.

Yes, it's the pico cage.
Once she's big enough, i'll get my old hamster playpen out so she can have plenty of floortime to get her out of the cage.

Yes, mum got her for me as an early xmas prezzie.

Your mum bought you a hamster as a present, after you rehomed your other ones because you "didn't have enough time"? mallethead

 

[Emiley]

No one is trying to trip you up or put you off, we're just telling you how it is. What about when you move out and have rent, utilities, council tax and such to pay? Will you be able to afford to put so much into the piggy pot then?

I also work 2 jobs, and there's no way I could afford my recent vets bill for Cameo if I didn't work where I do, as I also have a house to pay for, a car to run, insurance to pay, phone bills, gas bills, electricity bills and I don't even have to pay council tax on top of that. Cameo has so far cost over £1000 for three weeks care. It'd take a hell of a long time to rebuild that savings account.



Your mum bought you a hamster as a present, after you rehomed your other ones because you "didn't have enough time"? mallethead

I have already said I have different jobs now, so I have more time on my hands.

I'm not going to sit and argue with everyone over this, I'm done with this forum.

I'm now logging out, and wont be logging back in.

 

[Emiley]

I'm going to get banned i'm sure but I don't actually care, Emily stop lying. I can not stand it.*

The two syrrianes you had before, Archie and chip? They lived in rat cages, they were taller and better than that, and they're BOTh still alive to my knowledge.*

Stop this, you're going to turn into a hoarder and I can't just stand/sit and watch it, you're a good girl who just loves animals I know because i'm the same.*

I tried to reason with you a few months back and all you replied was that you have a job and the money so why not. Why not is because you don't have your own place, you're living at your parents. While that's absoloutly fine when you had 3/4/5/6 even up to 10 tbh, it's not anymore. you have a shed that I highly doubt is big enough for all the animals you have, and where did you get this miraculous time back from, because I asked you if you would take chip and Archie back and you said you just didn't have the time; was it because they weren't new and shiney?*

Sorry, rant over.

Banned – hmmm should you even have an account under an alias guise?
Archie and Chip – didn’t you rehome ALL your pets?! I rehomed Archie and Chip to you on the understanding you would give them a forever retirement home. That didn’t happen.
Hoarder – my business, I have a support network to help out, not a problem. Who gives you the right to have an opinion on how many pets I should have and whether I live with my parents or not? My shed is very generous in size, with plenty of room for bespoke hutches, lighting, heating etc. My parents are completely on board with my pets and support me in my newfound hobby of showing my piggies. They are not merely cuddled and left to their own devices!
Time – I was working irregular hours and wasn’t sure I could devote enough time and attention to them.


Size of cage – this is a perfectly adequately sized Syrian hamster cage with plenty of things to stimulate her. I have a larger wheel for her to use when she has grown bigger – she’s only a baby at the moment, so doesn’t need an adult sized wheel. She has been bred in a home environment and is very well handled, therefore she can be exercised regularly within a specific hamster pen!

Why did you give the hamsters up in the first place, then go out and get another one? Forgive me if I'm missing the point here....

As I said before – I was working very irregular hours, however, my working life and home life is now on a more stable level, and I feel perfectly able to devote sufficient time to all my animals.

I have just been told to shut up and that I nor anyone else has the right to be cncerned. But actually I do, infant I think it is our responsibility to care. Isn't that the main part of this site is to protect the animals welfare? We can not tell you or force you i do someone thing we can only voice our opinions and hope hat people are reasonable and mature enough to discuss. I mean, think about this from the forums point of view, all we as is you getting another animal and another, it's not a personal thing against you getting more animals, the community responded with the same concern when I got more. Everyone here is passionate about pet care, including welfare and health.nmagine if one of your pigs onto a fungal infection, how would you cope with the vet bills and on going treatment. That's for one pig, fungal is so catching that if one of your pigs got I and you didn't notice they could all catch I within a matter of days not even that. I'm not saying you're not looking ate them, I'm asking you to think about all eventualities.

Care – yes, everyone can care, but nobody has the right to be judgemental and make derisory comments.
Protect animals welfare – yes, but surely that is more relevant to those who do not devote time/care/attention or just get bored and rehome, like those to be found on certain sales websites.

Discuss in a reasonable and mature way – hmmmm why do I need to discuss with you anyway? I don’t threaten suicide just because people are judgemental. (bit harsh, perhaps). I didn’t ask for people to comment on my ability to look after my animals, I was just happy to share a pic of my new pet with everyone.
Fungal infection and coping – lots of breeder and piggy show friends. Anybody who knows anything about breeding or showing piggies know exactly what to look for and how to treat it without even having to visit a vet. Knowledge and experience counts for more than pointing a finger!
As my piggies are show piggies, they are inspected and groomed every single day, how would I NOT notice? As they are judged at shows, absolutely nothing would go unnoticed by either myself, my show piggy friends or the judges.
I actually work and have my own disposable income, therefore I believe I have the right to spend it exactly how I wish and not how you decide.

 

[lotsopiggies]

I thought you were "logging out and not logging back in again" if you're going to be rude you can take it elsewhere, them. I wasnt judging you,njust voicing concern, I've never judged you and I would never EVER say what you just said to me, luckily I'm a lot better than I was. You know how people can't help having cancer or a cough, it's the same for mental health. So kindly screw off

 

[Amanda1801]

As I said before – I was working very irregular hours, however, my working life and home life is now on a more stable level, and I feel perfectly able to devote sufficient time to all my animals.

How much time does a hamster take, really?

Between going to uni monday to friday 9-5 and then studying in my own time, and working 2 jobs on top of that, I also travel 25 miles to and 25 miles from my mums house each day to walk my dog (can't have him at my flat), give my pigs floor time, groom them, examine them, and in Cameo's case, syringe feed her several times a day (and night!), I still have time to give to Peanut, my hamster!

(I am however, considering writing to the government and asking them to extend the number of hours in a day to 30 or something!)